Gedmatch calculators on Vahaduo

**Peterski** · 09-13-2021, 09:39 PM

Originally Posted by Lucas

I think they aren't. Real Vietnamese live on the coast only. Between Laos and Vietnam coast are mountians with tribes different then Viets.

In K36 I have the Bahnar tribe from those mountains.

**Zanzibar** · 09-14-2021, 08:17 AM

Originally Posted by Leto

I was thinking Northern Laos should be similar to Northern Vietnam because both are roughly at the same latitude.

The Northern Kinh are pure Southeast Asians, I believe.

I think Lao and Kinh_Vietnam here are rather distant because latter have a lot of Chinese admixture something that Lao lack, while the former also possess some minor South Asian/AASI-like affinity and possibility increased Dai/Austroasiatic admixture than Viets. They could be more similar if we compare by each Lao G25 individuals. I will have to run them on G25 to be sure. Also I will post some Lao from Isaan region of Thailand later.

Also I think the reason Lao are closer to Malay, Javanese and Balinese than to Thai is because that the Malays, Javanese and Balinese are more Mongoloid and have less South Asian ancestry than Thais do. Thais actually have one of the highest Indian admixture which makes them further apart from Laotians.

Nope, Northern Kinh also have a lot of Chinese admixture so they are not the purest. The purest would be Taiwanese Aborigines, some tribal Austronesians of Maritime SE Asia like Murut, Dusun, Mentawai and probably Mlabri and Htin for mainland SE Asia.

**Zanzibar** · 09-14-2021, 08:21 AM

Originally Posted by Tomenable

In K36 I have the Bahnar tribe from those mountains.

How did you get the sample? Is it the same kit from this thread?: https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...nds-in-Vietnam

**Leto** · 09-14-2021, 09:17 AM

Originally Posted by Joqool

I think Lao and Kinh_Vietnam here are rather distant because latter have a lot of Chinese admixture something that Lao lack, while the former also possess some minor South Asian/AASI-like affinity and possibility increased Dai/Austroasiatic admixture than Viets. They could be more similar if we compare by each Lao G25 individuals. I will have to run them on G25 to be sure. Also I will post some Lao from Isaan region of Thailand later.

Also I think the reason Lao are closer to Malay, Javanese and Balinese than to Thai is because that the Malays, Javanese and Balinese are more Mongoloid and have less South Asian ancestry than Thais do. Thais actually have one of the highest Indian admixture which makes them further apart from Laotians.

Nope, Northern Kinh also have a lot of Chinese admixture so they are not the purest. The purest would be Taiwanese Aborigines, some tribal Austronesians of Maritime SE Asia like Murut, Dusun, Mentawai and probably Mlabri and Htin for mainland SE Asia.

Well, by pure I mean full Mongoloids without any Indian. I guess my question was poorly formulated from the beginning.

**Zanzibar** · 09-14-2021, 09:47 AM

Originally Posted by Leto

Well, by pure I mean full Mongoloids without any Indian. I guess my question was poorly formulated from the beginning.

Alright. Then yes, Northern Kinh are one of the purest Mongoloids among SE Asians along with Taiwanese Aborigines, Igorots of Northern Philippines followed by the Dai of Southern Yunnan, tribal Austronesians such as Murut and Mentawai of maritime SE Asia. These groups aforementioned pretty much lack Indian, MENA or Euro admixture. Murut and Mentawai could have minor Australoid admixture though.

**Peterski** · 09-14-2021, 10:16 AM

Originally Posted by Joqool

How did you get the sample? Is it the same kit from this thread?: https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...nds-in-Vietnam

Probably another kit.

**Kaazi** · 09-14-2021, 02:04 PM

@Lucas,

Here are new Punjabi Hindu India, Punjabi Christian India and Punjabi Muslim India G25.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Xkq...ew?usp=sharing

Additional new Bengali Bangladesh (BEB) from 1000 Genomes are here.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1TAM...ew?usp=sharing

**J. Ketch** · 09-17-2021, 02:04 AM

British G25 samples (1000 Genomes)

Scaled

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Unscaled

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British:HG00125,0.0115,0.0127,0.0183,0.0184,0.0143,0.0059,0.0006,0.0027,-0.0005,-0.0038,-0.007,0.0049,-0.0032,-0.0054,0.012,0.0084,-0.0078,0.0006,0.0037,0.0054,0.0027,0.0026,-0.0018,0.012,0.0052
British:HG00238,0.0114,0.013,0.0149,0.0135,0.0119,0.0038,-0.0009,0.0016,0.0055,0.0063,-0.007,0.0011,-0.0099,-0.0122,0.0172,0.0049,0,0.0001,0.0047,0.0013,0.006,0.0022,0.0013,0.0093,0.0005
British:HG00240,0.0117,0.0133,0.0153,0.0148,0.0127,0.0049,0.0033,0.0034,0.0019,0.0026,-0.0045,0.0007,-0.008,-0.0129,0.016,0.004,-0.0078,-0.0015,0.0003,0.002,0.0082,0.0017,0.0005,0.0021,-0.0018
Scottish_Argyll_Bute:HG00106,0.0119,0.013,0.0159,0.017,0.012,0.0082,0.0024,0.0027,-0.0025,0.0003,-0.0022,0.0071,-0.007,-0.0089,0.024,-0.0057,-0.0196,0.0033,0.0055,-0.0005,0.0013,-0.0005,-0.0036,0.0079,-0.0004

Average

Code:

British,0.01172963,0.013077778,0.016688889,0.015037037,0.012874074,0.006274074,0.001222222,0.003022222,0.002255556,0.001437037,-0.003685185,0.003944444,-0.008222222,-0.0092,0.016574074,0.004548148,-0.007485185,0.000281481,0.001292593,0.002455556,0.004037037,0.002748148,-0.000225926,0.01157037,-0.000111111

**J. Ketch** · 09-17-2021, 02:08 AM

Distance to: British
0.00611653 Scottish
0.00708585 Irish
0.00907903 Orcadian
0.01021427 English
0.01023004 Welsh
0.01215222 Dutch
0.01258410 English_Cornwall
0.01343688 Danish
0.01397690 Shetlandic
0.01424847 Icelandic
0.01457516 Norwegian
0.01649499 French_Brittany
0.02323263 Swedish
0.02479951 German
0.02686212 Afrikaner
0.03040359 Belgian
0.03371191 French_Pas-de-Calais
0.03453263 French_Seine-Maritime
0.03469872 French_Nord
0.03796906 French_Paris

**Dr_Maul** · 09-17-2021, 02:30 AM

Lucas it would be nice for convenience to change Dersim and Ezid to Kurd_Dersim / Kurd_Zaza and Kurd_Ezid / Kurd_Yazidi . Not trying to be political just it is more organized this way and logical, imo