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    Quote Originally Posted by Komintasavalta View Post
    It's not qpAdm but qpGraph. And there was no Iran_N or CHG source in their qpGraph model.When I recreated the qpGraph model of Tambets 2018 in ADMIXTOOLS 2, Udmurts only got 26% Nganasan, but it could be because I used different samples:



    Code:
    library(admixtools)
    
    t=read.table(text="R Yoruba.DG
    R A
    A O
    A AA
    O E
    O CH
    E EU
    E L1
    EU WH
    EU EH
    AA EH
    EH EH2
    EH EH1
    EH AAA
    AA AAA
    WH CCE
    WH Italy_North_Villabruna_HG
    CH YM
    CH CH1
    CH AAN
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    EH1 EH0
    AAA AAN
    CH1 EH0
    CH1 Georgia_Kotias.SG
    L1 Turkey_N_published
    L1 LB
    L1 YM1
    L1 CW
    EH2 LB
    EH2 CWC
    YM YM1
    YM CW
    EH0 Russia_HG_Karelia
    AAN Nganasan
    AAN CCA
    LB Germany_EN_LBK
    LB CCW
    YM1 Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
    CW CCW
    CW Estonia_CordedWare
    CCW CWC
    CWC CCE
    CCE CCA
    CCA Udmurt")
    
    pop=c("Udmurt","Germany_CordedWare","Estonia_CordedWare","Germany_EN_LBK","Italy_North_Villabruna_HG","Nganasan","Russia_HG_Karelia","Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya","Turkey_N_published","Yoruba.DG","Georgia_Kotias.SG","Chimp.REF")
    
    f2=f2_from_geno("v50.0_HO_public",pops=pop)
    gr=qpgraph(f2,t)
    
    plot_graph(gr$edges)
    ggsave("1.png",width=9,height=9)
    system("mogrify -trim -border 64 -bordercolor white t/1.png")
    
    # plotly_graph(gr$edges)
    
    write_dot(gr$edges) # generate black-and-white graph at graphviz.it
    Edit: But when I used `maxmiss=1`, Udmurts got 32% Nganasan. (By default, ADMIXTOOLS 2 discards each SNP which is missing from every sample in a population, but `maxmiss=1` discards no SNPs.)
    Well here is qpAdm model of Udmurts by David showing them close to 30% Mongoloid: https://eurogenes.blogspot.com/2017/...lithic-to.html

    Udmurt
    chisq 7.095
    tail prob 0.419052
    Barcin_Neolithic 0.234
    Caucasus_HG 0.133
    Eastern_HG 0.298
    Nganasan 0.295
    Onge 0.01
    Western_HG 0.028
    Yoruba 0

    Or this data, showing Udmurts around 30% Eastern Eurasian: https://genomebiology.biomedcentral....22-1/figures/6

    These two models from this Anthrogenica thread: https://anthrogenica.com/showthread....lic-qpAdm-runs

    Udmurt
    Nganasan: 0.307±0.007
    Estonia_MN_CCC: 0.150±0.033
    Latvia_LN_CordedWare: 0.387±0.045
    Ukraine_Globular_Amphora: 0.155±0.029
    tail: 0.099657
    chisq: 15.999

    Udmurt
    Nganasan: 0.287±0.009
    Estonia_MN_CCC: 0.176±0.045
    Germany_CordedWare: 0.450±0.068
    Hungary_LBK_MN.SG: 0.088±0.027
    tail: 0.659253
    chisq: 7.688

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucas View Post
    Are you even tried qpGraph only with modern samples? I want to see such model, for some VURs could be.
    Not before now, but it seems to work pretty nicely at least for estimating the amount of Mongoloid ancestry:



    Code:
    library(admixtools)
    pop=c("Norwegian","Nganasan","Finnish","Yoruba")
    b=f2_from_geno("v50.0_HO_public",pops=pop,maxmiss=1)
    find=find_graphs(b,pops=pop,outpop=c("Yoruba"),numrep=1,stop_gen=10,numadmix=1)
    top=find%>%top_n(1,-score)
    plot_graph(top$edges[[1]])
    ggsave("1.png",width=4,height=4)
    You can also use multiple Mongoloid references and multiple Caucasoid references:


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    Quote Originally Posted by Komintasavalta View Post
    Not before now, but it seems to work pretty nicely at least for estimating the amount of Mongoloid ancestry:



    Code:
    library(admixtools)
    pop=c("Norwegian","Nganasan","Finnish","Yoruba")
    b=f2_from_geno("v50.0_HO_public",pops=pop,maxmiss=1)
    find=find_graphs(b,pops=pop,outpop=c("Yoruba"),numrep=1,stop_gen=10,numadmix=1)
    top=find%>%top_n(1,-score)
    plot_graph(top$edges[[1]])
    ggsave("1.png",width=4,height=4)
    You can also use multiple Mongoloid references and multiple Caucasoid references:

    Thanks! This is what I always wanted to see. I hate those boring ancient models with always the same refs on AG.
    I must try now as it works.

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    Luke, please add those new pops, I don't want them to get lost in this influx of unrelated posts.

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    New Russian averages for Euro K13. The old Russian_Southwest is to be deleted.
    Code:
    Russian_Pskov,27.00,53.07,7.78,4.50,1.25,1.69,0.54,0.03,1.87,0.73,0.58,0.45,0.50
    Russian_Ryazan,24.89,47.15,8.72,7.10,4.48,0.69,1.67,0.40,2.97,0.99,0.32,0.39,0.23
    Russian_Southwest,25.94,46.84,8.96,5.59,6.50,0.98,0.99,0.72,1.85,0.81,0.27,0.37,0.19
    Russian_Tver-Yaroslavl,25.04,49.54,9.31,5.95,1.48,1.02,1.12,0.10,3.82,1.42,0.39,0.66,0.16

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    New Russian averages for Euro K13. The old Russian_Southwest is to be deleted.
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    Russian_Pskov,27.00,53.07,7.78,4.50,1.25,1.69,0.54,0.03,1.87,0.73,0.58,0.45,0.50
    Russian_Ryazan,24.89,47.15,8.72,7.10,4.48,0.69,1.67,0.40,2.97,0.99,0.32,0.39,0.23
    Russian_Southwest,25.94,46.84,8.96,5.59,6.50,0.98,0.99,0.72,1.85,0.81,0.27,0.37,0.19
    Russian_Tver-Yaroslavl,25.04,49.54,9.31,5.95,1.48,1.02,1.12,0.10,3.82,1.42,0.39,0.66,0.16
    Cool, I got 39% of this Yaroslavl average in K13 breakdown:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    New Russian averages for Euro K13. The old Russian_Southwest is to be deleted.
    Code:
    Russian_Pskov,27.00,53.07,7.78,4.50,1.25,1.69,0.54,0.03,1.87,0.73,0.58,0.45,0.50
    Russian_Ryazan,24.89,47.15,8.72,7.10,4.48,0.69,1.67,0.40,2.97,0.99,0.32,0.39,0.23
    Russian_Southwest,25.94,46.84,8.96,5.59,6.50,0.98,0.99,0.72,1.85,0.81,0.27,0.37,0.19
    Russian_Tver-Yaroslavl,25.04,49.54,9.31,5.95,1.48,1.02,1.12,0.10,3.82,1.42,0.39,0.66,0.16
    Why are Russians from Pskov such an outlier? That average seems to predominantly Baltic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CommonSense View Post
    Why are Russians from Pskov such an outlier? That average seems to predominantly Baltic.
    In a PCA of European samples from the Reich dataset, Russian_Pskov is also close to Lithuanians:

    Distance to Russian_Pskov:
    .019 Russian_Smolensk
    .021 Lithuanian
    .021 Belarusian
    .023 Russian_Ryazan
    .023 Russian_Orel
    .023 Russian_Tver
    .024 Russian_Kaluga
    .024 Estonian
    .025 Russian_Yaroslavl
    .026 Russian_Kursk
    .026 Russian_Belgorod
    .028 Ukrainian_North
    .034 Ukrainian
    .051 Polish.DG
    .051 Moksha

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    Quote Originally Posted by Komintasavalta View Post
    In a PCA of European samples from the Reich dataset, Russian_Pskov is also close to Lithuanians:
    Hey I asked you to run the Estonian samples in the other thread. Also another user wanted to see Erzya/Moksha samples. You know the sources

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    Target: DFWW
    Distance: 1.6970% / 1.69697324 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    53.0 West_Scottish
    31.3 Pennsylvania_Dutch
    13.3 Moroccan_Jew
    1.8 Yemenite_Jewish
    0.6 Evens

    Seems pretty accurate, but not as good as G25. The Yemenite Jewish is not accurate though.

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