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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    Interesting but I can't say much about those charts because I haven't seen the samples themselves. On the other hand, the ones I added are pretty much in the same range.
    I can say your grandma is fairly atypical for most of Russia with such a high score of Baltic and North_European. And actually I wanted to see your own K12b results . Where is the rest of your ancestry from? It's weird that I've never talked to you before even though you are one of the oldest members here.
    I thought this grandma would be interesting because she is from a rural area in a single region. My granddad married to this grandma is also from nearby (Klin, which is in Moscow Oblast next to Tver, but I'm not certain if his ancestors moved much). The rest of my ancestry is from Southern Russia (Terek Cossack) and from Zaporizhia (but with a bunch of Russian surnames like Kolesnikov). My "Tver/Klin" dad has significantly more Baltic than my mom (53 to 44) on Eurogenes and more North European on Dodecad (68 to 60). Who knows why I'm getting 69 Northern European instead of something closer to 64.

    Dodecad K12b
    Humanophage,0,1.3,0,0,11.9,69.19,2.36,0,2.05,0.46, 12.75,0
    Distance to: aaa
    10.14734448 Latvian
    10.59412101 Lithuanian
    13.51609041 Russian_Tver
    13.53173307 Estonian
    13.98935309 Russian_Northern_Dvina
    14.55486860 Belarusian_Minsk
    14.60566329 Veps
    14.85334642 Karelian
    14.94458765 Finnish_East
    14.98969313 Russian_Kostroma
    14.99778984 Russian_Smolensk
    15.02174757 Russian_Voronezh
    15.15551385 Russian_Kursk
    15.28954872 North_Russian
    15.43865279 Belorussian
    15.56956005 Russian
    16.06320952 Russian_Oryol
    16.43901153 Polish_Mazovia
    16.52139825 Russian_Ryazan
    16.84503488 Mordovian
    17.66494268 Ukrainian
    17.70180499 Russian_Ural
    18.18649224 Finnish_West
    18.98207049 Polish
    20.07340778 Polish_Warmia-Masuria
    Eugogenes K13
    Humanophage,23.93,50.79,8.65,4.62,3.26,1.77,2.61,0 ,1.72,1.84,0.45,0,0.35
    Distance to: aaa
    4.00272407 Russian_Tver-Yaroslavl
    4.37134991 Belarusian_Minsk
    5.02229031 Russian_Pskov
    5.14716427 Russian_Ryazan
    5.35684609 Russian_average
    5.42822255 Russian_Smolensk
    6.01803955 Russian_Southwest
    6.32657885 Russian_Kargopol
    6.48151217 Belorussian
    6.60587617 Russian_Kostroma
    6.68077091 Lithuanian
    6.86716099 Mordovian
    6.95633524 Polish_Mazovia
    7.32656809 Ukrainian
    7.35257098 Polish_Kuyavia
    7.40226992 Polish_Mazovia
    8.30979542 Polish_Staropolska
    8.43913503 Polish_Podlaskie
    8.64472672 Russian_Northern_Dvina
    8.65101728 Polish_Kielce
    8.65101728 Polish_Kielce
    8.98448106 Polish
    9.01457154 Polish_Podlaskie
    9.23269192 Latvian
    9.89419527 Polish_Kujawy
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    Single Population Sharing (Eurogenes)
    1 Estonian_Polish 4.36
    2 Russian_Smolensk 4.88
    3 Southwest_Russian 5.32
    4 Belorussian 5.78
    5 Lithuanian 5.92

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    Quote Originally Posted by Humanophage View Post
    I thought this grandma would be interesting because she is from a rural area in a single region. My granddad married to this grandma is also from nearby (Klin, which is in Moscow Oblast next to Tver, but I'm not certain if his ancestors moved much). The rest of my ancestry is from Southern Russia (Terek Cossack) and from Zaporizhia (but with a bunch of Russian surnames like Kolesnikov). My "Tver/Klin" dad has significantly more Baltic than my mom (53 to 44).

    Dodecad K12b
    Humanophage,0,1.3,0,0,11.9,69.19,2.36,0,2.05,0.46, 12.75,0


    Eugogenes K13
    Humanophage,23.93,50.79,8.65,4.62,3.26,1.77,2.61,0 ,1.72,1.84,0.45,0,0.35


    I haven't been posting much on Apricity since the early 2010s because there were incessant technical problems, and Human Biodiversity Forum seemed a bit better around 2012-2013. Happy to see that Apricity is still around and that the genetic section is doing fine.
    So you are a typical Russian, i.e. a mix of different oblasts including those that now belong to other states if you know what I mean.
    I think you were part of the original dataset for Dodecad because your results look calculator-affected. But I can see that your Mongoloid percentage is very low.

    The technical problems are still here, my account gets logged out every few minutes basically. So not much has changed since then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    So you are a typical Russian, i.e. a mix of different oblasts including those that now belong to other states if you know what I mean.
    I think you were part of the original dataset for Dodecad because your results look calculator-affected. But I can see that your Mongoloid percentage is very low.

    The technical problems are still here, my account gets logged out every few minutes basically. So not much has changed since then.
    Yeah, pretty typical. I'd conceptualise myself as mix of northwestern and southern Russia. I'm part of the original dataset for Eurogenes (as RU44). Possibly also for Dodecad, don't quite recall, but you're probably right.

    Is that the reason for my high North European and would it affect the results of my relatives on calcs?
    Single Population Sharing (Eurogenes)
    1 Estonian_Polish 4.36
    2 Russian_Smolensk 4.88
    3 Southwest_Russian 5.32
    4 Belorussian 5.78
    5 Lithuanian 5.92

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    Quote Originally Posted by Humanophage View Post
    Yeah, pretty typical. I'd conceptualise myself as mix of northwestern and southern Russia. I'm part of the original dataset for Eurogenes (as RU44). Possibly also for Dodecad, don't quite recall, but you're probably right.

    Is that the reason for my high North European and would it affect the results of my relatives on calcs?
    Yes, your results are unreliable if you are part of the original reference. But I don't think it extends to your relatives that weren't used as a reference.

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    @Lucas, these are for Dodecad. Please delete these ones:

    Egyptian
    Han_south
    Japanese
    Western_Indonesian
    Tibetan
    Turkmen_TM
    Uyghur
    Vietnamese

    And add these instead:
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    Egyptian,4.49,0.14,9.14,0.15,12.30,0.13,0.62,11.12,25.89,0.22,29.30,6.49
    Han_Guangdong,0.03,0.15,0.12,60.62,0.13,0.05,0.28,0,0,38.49,0.09,0.03
    Japanese,0,4.79,0.08,10.72,0,0,1.51,0.10,0.06,82.66,0.04
    Indonesian_Java,0.07,1.38,0.09,76.50,0.13,0.19,12.26,0.20,0.43,7.95,0.43,0.35
    Sri_Lankan,32.52,0.40,0.28,2.32,0.53,1.12,57.10,0.17,1.13,1.71,1.93,0.79
    Manchu_Liaoning,0.18,6.24,0.12,26.71,0.19,0.14,0.11,0.03,0.08,65.98,0.20,0.02
    Tibetan,1.25,10.98,0,16.36,0.07,0.55,6.56,0.16,0.21,63.59,0.13,0.14
    Turkmen_Turkmenistan,18.89,12.89,0.45,1.27,6.30,13.64,5.31,0.52,5.04,13.89,21.66,0.13
    Uyghur_Xinjiang,16.21,13.89,0.06,6.24,4.61,12.84,5.14,0.29,1.61,27.62,11.12,0.38
    Vietnamese,0.13,0.32,0.03,62.54,0.07,0.28,2.84,0,0.07,33.44,0.24,0.04

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    @Lucas, these are for Dodecad. Please delete these ones:

    Egyptian
    Han_south
    Japanese
    Western_Indonesian
    Tibetan
    Turkmen_TM
    Uyghur
    Vietnamese

    And add these instead:
    Code:
    Egyptian,4.49,0.14,9.14,0.15,12.30,0.13,0.62,11.12,25.89,0.22,29.30,6.49
    Han_Guangdong,0.03,0.15,0.12,60.62,0.13,0.05,0.28,0,0,38.49,0.09,0.03
    Japanese,0,4.79,0.08,10.72,0,0,1.51,0.10,0.06,82.66,0.04
    Indonesian_Java,0.07,1.38,0.09,76.50,0.13,0.19,12.26,0.20,0.43,7.95,0.43,0.35
    Sri_Lankan,32.52,0.40,0.28,2.32,0.53,1.12,57.10,0.17,1.13,1.71,1.93,0.79
    Manchu_Liaoning,0.18,6.24,0.12,26.71,0.19,0.14,0.11,0.03,0.08,65.98,0.20,0.02
    Tibetan,1.25,10.98,0,16.36,0.07,0.55,6.56,0.16,0.21,63.59,0.13,0.14
    Turkmen_Turkmenistan,18.89,12.89,0.45,1.27,6.30,13.64,5.31,0.52,5.04,13.89,21.66,0.13
    Uyghur_Xinjiang,16.21,13.89,0.06,6.24,4.61,12.84,5.14,0.29,1.61,27.62,11.12,0.38
    Vietnamese,0.13,0.32,0.03,62.54,0.07,0.28,2.84,0,0.07,33.44,0.24,0.04
    Japanese apparently has some error, here's the fixed version
    Code:
    Japanese,0,4.79,0.08,10.72,0,0,1.51,0.10,0.06,82.66,0.04,0

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucas View Post
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    Lucas, its time for an overhaul of the existing Iranian G25 using the Iranome samples. (G25 Scaled)

    Please DELETE Averages AND Individual samples for:
    Iranian_Fars
    Iranian_Persian_Shiraz

    And DELETE averages:
    Iranian_Azeri
    Iranian_Persian_North
    Iranian_Persian_East
    Iranian_Persian_South
    Iranian_Persian_Central

    Please Add these individual samples for EXISTING averages (Don't delete these 2 averages):

    Iranian_Turkmen_Golestan:
    Spoiler!
    Iranian_Arab_Khuzestan:
    Spoiler!
    And add these new Iranome averages (and their individual samples) please: (some include previous individuals which is why I said to delete those averages as well as to prevent unnecessary averages and crowding)
    Code:
    Iranian_Persian_Tehran,0.0934975,0.0987966,-0.0600698,-0.031454,-0.0419125,-0.0025366,0.0034914,-0.0032636,-0.0303669,-0.0134594,-0.000232,-0.0010349,0.0021308,-0.0007995,0.001926,0.0082396,-0.0037749,0.0017919,0.0031065,-0.0087601,0.0000891,-0.0033503,-0.0010975,-0.0030525,0.0040885
    Individuals:
    Spoiler!

    Code:
     Iranian_Persian_Isfahan,0.0877955,0.0956629,-0.0628535,-0.0256462,-0.0437823,-0.0006695,0.0044493,-0.0023077,-0.0287287,-0.0143967,0.0019921,-0.0009591,0.001883,-0.0033213,0.0041529,0.0106868,-0.0033465,0.0019763,0.0029665,-0.0097214,-0.0011231,-0.0025885,-0.0010271,-0.0024581,0.0023071
    Individuals:
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    Iranian_Persian_Khorasan,0.0853672,0.0674312,-0.0661722,0.0000861,-0.0501427,0.0103933,0.0039167,-0.0016154,-0.0253881,-0.0172031,-0.0029231,-0.0008292,0.0024777,-0.0061747,0.0087131,0.0152744,-0.0027641,0.0021369,0.0029581,-0.0100383,-0.0021713,-0.0035859,-0.0017747,-0.0041289,0.0076558
    Individuals:
    Spoiler!

    Code:
    Iranian_Persian_Fars,0.0849404,0.094095149,-0.0653125,-0.0247297,-0.045402649,0.00000875,0.00423735,-0.0044782,-0.02723365,-0.0155868,0.000751,-0.0023133,0.005389,-0.00253736,0.005445801,0.01183365,-0.006384601,0.002205247,0.0020739498,-0.00875415,0.000429,-0.0029097,0.0008126,-0.0047973,0.0044007
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    The Age of R1 is over... The time of the J2, has come (again)
    Quote Originally Posted by The Blade
    I'd say Turanid/Alpine/Mediterranean mix.
    Target: DrMaul
    Distance: 0.00000%
    100.0 First Man - J2 Atlantean

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    And please add these as well (G25 scaled)

    Code:
    Iranian_Kurd_Kordestan,0.0951562,0.112723,-0.06373319,-0.034884,-0.0371146,-0.0064144,0.003525,-0.0040152,-0.027447,-0.0119181,-0.0005522,-0.0019182,0.0027947,-0.0022018,0.0062974,0.01315277,-0.001303801,0.0001519,0.00181002,-0.005752799,-0.00129759,-0.00413,-0.0002476,-0.001687,0.0032332
    Individuals:
    Spoiler!


    Code:
    Iranian_Kurd_Urmia,0.10016449,0.118817,-0.067316,-0.02907,-0.045239,-0.0037656,0.0072849,-0.004153501,-0.0366095,-0.0190435,-0.0001619,-0.002098,0.000892,-0.005986499,0.003731996,0.018231,0.00769251,-0.0001265023,0.002263,-0.004252001,0.0037435003,-0.0014840003,0.003882,-0.0023495,0.00359249
    Individuals:
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    Code:
    Iranian_Kurd_Kermanshah,0.09077401,0.095967749,-0.0600562499,-0.02624375,-0.04193075,0.004532,0.00593375,-0.001673,-0.02725275,-0.01280225,-0.0007307497,-0.0015734998,0.0016352499,-0.000137750001,0.00583625,0.009513250001,-0.00329225,0.0007285,0.002954,-0.00850375,-0.00461675,-0.0058735,0.00018475005,0.0010542503,0.00455025
    Individuals:
    Spoiler!

    Code:
    Iranian_Azeri_Tabriz,0.08906675,0.0827655,-0.05072275004,-0.0323,-0.03939175,-0.004532,0.0028205,-0.00190399,-0.02848002,-0.0072892501,-0.0020705,0.000112499,0.00494275,-0.000343999,0.0003395007,0.0083201,0.0032595,0.00243875,0.000314,-0.00612775,-0.00018700000000000002,-0.00154552,-0.00354325,-0.0043375,0.00161675
    Individuals:
    Spoiler!

    Code:
    Iranian_Azeri_Zanjan,0.09504225,0.0868275,-0.0529855,-0.03803325,-0.03885325,-0.0086454999,0.00499375,-0.0034037500000000005,-0.02894025,-0.0106607498,0.00044675,0.000673999,0.001003503,0.0006195,0.0007122502,0.00546925,0.0008802500000000001,-0.0012985,0.001508248,-0.00193824999,0.00006224987,-0.0040495,-0.000339,-0.0013555,0.00245475
    Individuals:
    Spoiler!

    Code:
    Iranian_Azeri_Tehran,0.0910585,0.08175,-0.051099625,-0.03076575,-0.03646825,-0.00156874998,0.00282005,-0.0032305,-0.025897625,-0.01059237501,-0.000060875003,-0.0017422499,0.00222975,-0.00400825,-0.000407125,0.007574,-0.000032475,0.000126874,0.001791125002,-0.00714437506,-0.003306625,-0.0030451249,-0.00149425,-0.001235125,0.00276924
    Individuals:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Maul View Post
    The Age of R1 is over... The time of the J2, has come (again)
    Quote Originally Posted by The Blade
    I'd say Turanid/Alpine/Mediterranean mix.
    Target: DrMaul
    Distance: 0.00000%
    100.0 First Man - J2 Atlantean

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