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    Quote Originally Posted by Dušan View Post
    You are dumb, and a liar as well.

    Target: Stearsolina(Croat)
    Distance: 2.8821% / 2.88209825
    67.4 Slavic
    24.1 I3313_Croatia_Early_IA_2733_ybp
    5.1 Imperial_Roman
    3.4 I5769_Bulgaria_IA_2600_ybp
    I mean in my G25 calc. Your model has no west Euro proxy.

    Target: Stearsolina_scaled
    Distance: 1.6472% / 0.01647246

    53.4 (Balto-)SlavicEU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA001
    15.4 Balkan:BGR_IA_I5769
    14.0 Graeco-Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial_RMPR111
    8.8 Celtic_likeEU_Lech_EBA_AITI_78
    6.2 (Balto-)Slavic:HUN_Avar_Szolad_Av2
    1.4 Turkic:TUR_Ottoman_MA2195
    0.8 Graeco-Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial_RMPR76

    And I think my calculator has serious flaws.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vbnetkhio View Post
    Those Near Eastern samples in red are also from Viminacium. These samples are from a period when the 2 groups lived side by side and didn't mix with each other yet.
    Which period is that? Just curious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stearsolina View Post
    I mean in my G25 calc. Your model has no west Euro proxy.
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    As you can see, this model seems very realistic to you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stearsolina View Post
    Which period is that? Just curious.
    I'm not sure, the radiocarbon datings should be available in the supplementary data of the study.

    The mena samples were burried in richer graves than the locals, so maybe they didn't mix because of a class difference. This could've been a phenomenon specific for Viminacium only.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stearsolina View Post
    I still repeat, what Reich paper states is realistic, with native Balkanites being between Croatian and Bulgarian IA (...)
    Which indicates that these two samples - that according to the PCA posted farther up are almost at the opposite ends of the spektrum - are applicable references for modelling old Balkan, even if hardly anyone gets modelled with CRO IA in G25. For whatever reason. And why this seems different in K13, remains a conundrum.
    Target: rothaer_scaled
    Distance: 1.0091% / 0.01009085

    39.8 (Balto-)Slavic
    39.0 Germanic
    19.2 Celtic-like
    1.8 Graeco-Roman
    0.2 Finnic-like

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stearsolina View Post
    But Sicilian like or whatever? Only if MENA genocide of Balkanites and ethnic replacement happened. If you think you are heavily MENA, be my guest
    Here it is mine Sicilian.

    Prego, signora

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dušan View Post
    Here it is mine Sicilian.

    Prego, signora

    So you believe your native Balkan ancestors were genocided and replaced by "Romans" (actually near MENAs)? I don't like that idea!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stearsolina View Post
    So you believe your native Balkan ancestors were genocided and replaced by "Romans" (actually near MENAs)? I don't like that idea!
    It is not about what I like or not like, but finding a truth about ancestral autosomal genetics of Balkan population.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dušan View Post
    Yes, our pre-Slavic part is "supper woggy deep south Italian like".
    It is realistic, and it is seen in this chart.



    Origin of "prečani" is most likely from central Balkan, and we are not different from other Serbs, as it is proven for hundred times.

    0% IA Croatia, thank dear God.
    Yes. From what I saw on Gedmatch, Serbs with the highest NA are probably from NE Bosnia. Krajina and Vojvodina Serbs have less because their ethnogenesis happened further south.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dušan View Post
    It is not about what I like or not like, but finding a truth about ancestral autosomal genetics of Balkan population.
    We will see. I accept anything which is truth.

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