What are the "German East" samples on G25 Vahaduo?

[Jana]

From which counties / Kreise of West Prussia and Upper Silesia?

Okay, I will post.

Now I'm on my phone, I will be back home later today.

Cool, thank you. From west Prussia Gdansk and surrounding, some Pommeranians too as far as I remember. From upper Silesia is only one sample, Rothaer will know more in details about it's more precise origins

[Peterski]

From upper Silesia is only one sample, Rothaer will know more in details about it's more precise origins

Oh, then I am a bit disappointed because this is probably the same sample which I already discussed with him - and that was not an ethnic German but rather a very recently Germanized "Wasserpolack" (and he scores 93% Eastern European in 23andMe). IMO you should not include such people in your German averages, because they are not really Germans in an ethnic sense.

I will later post ethno-linguistic data for Upper Silesia as of year 1834 - with a breakdown by county / Kreis.

If you find a kit of an Upper Silesian who had German-speaking ancestors as of 1834, that would be cool.

[Jana]

Oh, then I am a bit disappointed because this is probably the same sample which I already discussed with him - and that was not an ethnic German but rather a very recently Germanized "Wasserpolack" (and he scores 93% Eastern European in 23andMe). IMO you should not include such people in your German averages, because they are not really Germans in an ethnic sense.

I will later post ethno-linguistic data for Upper Silesia as of year 1834 - with a breakdown by county / Kreis.

If you find a kit of an Upper Silesian who had German-speaking ancestors as of 1834, that would be cool.

Yeah, I think it is same sample. From what I understand results are his are more like norm for upper Silesia than outlier, because they aren't really German in ethnic sense as you say.
Lower Silesia different.

[Peterski]

From what I understand results are his are more like norm for upper Silesia than outlier, because they aren't really German in ethnic sense as you say.

There are Polish Upper Silesians and there are German Upper Silesians. And they should be different genetically, most probably. I can give you Polish Upper Silesian results.

Lower Silesia different.

In Lower Silesia it is a similar situation, there are German Lower Silesians and there are Polish Lower Silesians. But in this case only remnants of Polish Lower Silesians survived until the 20th century. In year 1819 Breslau Regency was 90% German + 10% Polish according to official Prussian data (it could be that they undercounted Poles).

As for German Lower Silesians, they should be less Slavic in areas near the Sudeten Mountains, and more Slavic in areas to the east and northeast of the Oder River.

[Jana]

There are Polish Upper Silesians and there are German Upper Silesians. And they should be different genetically, most probably. I can give you Polish Upper Silesian results.

Person you are discussing is German nationalist from Upper Silesia iirc. Not declared Pole, despite his results. This case reminds me of Italians from Istria.
Didn't large amount of Poles in upper Silesia germanised rather late and later even rejected to be part of Poland? I think he descend from such population.

There are probably genuine Germans in upper Silesia I guess, but from what I gather most of them are like him, recently Germanised Poles. Yes, feel free to share Polish upper Silesians.

In Lower Silesia it is a similar situation, there are German Lower Silesians and there are Polish Lower Silesians. But in this case only remnants of Polish Lower Silesians survived until the 20th century. In year 1819 Breslau Regency was 90% German + 10% Polish according to official Prussian data (it could be that they undercounted Poles).

As for German Lower Silesians, they should be less Slavic in areas near the Sudeten Mountains, and more Slavic in areas to the east and northeast of the Oder River.

Interesting. But I think lower Silesia had much more of genuine ethnic Germans than upper one, did it not?

[Borealis]

Shocked that there are already not German averages from various regions. Likewise we could do with some east and west Austrian samples too.

[Jana]

Shocked that there are already not German averages from various regions.

There are, they are just very broad. Learn to use Vahaduo before shitposting.

K13:

German,43.00,27.31,13.88,5.81,6.40,0.94,0.94,0.15,0.34,0.46,0.36,0.15,0.13
German_East,37.14,34.35,13.58,5.86,5.61,0.87,1.08,0.06,0.25,0.58,0.30,0.14,0.17
German_Northwest,48.15,27.06,11.62,5.35,3.94,0.84,1.28,0.13,0.43,0.44,0.40,0.15,0.14
German_South,41.78,22.89,16.36,6.24,9.41,1.09,0.52,0.25,0.31,0.42,0.38,0.18,0.11
German_West,44.26,23.82,14.00,6.94,7.16,0.86,0.62,0.36,0.40,0.49,0.38,0.41,0.18

https://vahaduo.genetics.ovh/k13-vahaduo.htm

[Borealis]

There are, they are just very broad. Learn to use Vahaduo before shitposting.

K13:

German,43.00,27.31,13.88,5.81,6.40,0.94,0.94,0.15,0.34,0.46,0.36,0.15,0.13
German_East,37.14,34.35,13.58,5.86,5.61,0.87,1.08,0.06,0.25,0.58,0.30,0.14,0.17
German_Northwest,48.15,27.06,11.62,5.35,3.94,0.84,1.28,0.13,0.43,0.44,0.40,0.15,0.14
German_South,41.78,22.89,16.36,6.24,9.41,1.09,0.52,0.25,0.31,0.42,0.38,0.18,0.11
German_West,44.26,23.82,14.00,6.94,7.16,0.86,0.62,0.36,0.40,0.49,0.38,0.41,0.18

https://vahaduo.genetics.ovh/k13-vahaduo.htm

I’m talking about G25 u daft fuck

[Jana]

I’m talking about G25 u daft fuck

You are incredibly annoying, brown ape.

[Borealis]

You are incredibly annoying, brown ape.

Same for 10 fold.

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