German GEDmatch results

[J. Ketch]

Interesting collection I will add to K13 later. But I'm not sure such granularity is needed we have here rather bigger regions only.

Any chance of a separate sheet for smaller regions? I would like to add the smaller British Isles & Dutch regional averages I have, but I prefer to keep them separate from the more solid major regions they're part of.

[rothaer]

another fair play move from Peterska, posted on Dec 29 (wasn't gedmatch not working than?? hahaha - that's what he claimed as excuse for not posting what he promised)



Of course he posted K15, but not K13, knowing we can't use K15 and need K13 values. And of course he did not share what he promised on Dec 27 that day either, when he posted this sample "by accident"

He wants to be needed and depended on, and to be begged for mercy to share data he has, just bits and pieces of it, when and if he feels like it.

No more. You got exposed. Bye!

I can not even understand why at all is discussed if GEDmatch works. Peterska could just have sent the Kit numbers - like I did - and that's it.

[Leto]

Berlin & Hamburg

North_Atlantic 33.86 Pct
Baltic 33.81 Pct
West_Med 15.45 Pct
West_Asian 4.07 Pct
East_Med 6.66 Pct
Red_Sea 0.94 Pct
South_Asian 2.15 Pct
East_Asian -
Siberian 0.71 Pct
Amerindian 1.41 Pct
Oceanian 0.95 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 East_German 4.3
2 Hungarian 5.67
3 Austrian 5.99
4 Croatian 7.59
5 South_Polish 9.26
6 Ukrainian_Lviv 10.15
7 Moldavian 10.2
8 Ukrainian 10.95
9 Polish 12.13
10 Serbian 12.45
11 North_Swedish 13.2
12 West_German 13.31
13 Southwest_Finnish 13.93
14 South_Dutch 14.12
15 North_German 14.18
16 Swedish 14.94
17 Southwest_Russian 15.51
18 Russian_Smolensk 15.52
19 Estonian_Polish 15.87
20 Ukrainian_Belgorod 16.11

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 67.8% Polish + 32.2% Spanish_Valencia @ 2.01
2 65.9% Polish + 34.1% Spanish_Cataluna @ 2.09
3 64.5% Russian_Smolensk + 35.5% Spanish_Aragon @ 2.11
4 53.3% Lithuanian + 46.7% Spanish_Cataluna @ 2.13
5 70.1% Polish + 29.9% Spanish_Aragon @ 2.19
6 60% Russian_Smolensk + 40% Spanish_Cataluna @ 2.19
7 55.4% Lithuanian + 44.6% Spanish_Valencia @ 2.21
8 59.4% Estonian_Polish + 40.6% Spanish_Cataluna @ 2.27
9 57.2% Lithuanian + 42.8% Spanish_Andalucia @ 2.27
10 68.1% Polish + 31.9% Spanish_Murcia @ 2.3
11 68.6% Polish + 31.4% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 2.31
12 62.1% Russian_Smolensk + 37.9% Spanish_Valencia @ 2.32
13 61.7% Russian_Smolensk + 38.3% Spanish_Cantabria @ 2.33
14 55.8% Lithuanian + 44.2% Spanish_Murcia @ 2.35
15 69.4% Polish + 30.6% Spanish_Andalucia @ 2.36
16 64% Estonian_Polish + 36% Spanish_Aragon @ 2.37
17 61.5% Ukrainian + 38.5% French @ 2.4
18 67.5% Polish + 32.5% Spanish_Cantabria @ 2.42
19 56.3% Lithuanian + 43.7% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 2.43
20 73.4% South_Polish + 26.6% Spanish_Cantabria @ 2.44

[mariusz99]

My results without East and West Prussia and Basque, Spain and Portugese. This results show my basic Slavic part + northern German distant ancestry.

Target: MARIUSZ_KORICINSKI
Distance: 2.3664% / 2.36642494
52.2 German_Brandenburg_outlier(Beeskow)
20.5 Russian_Tver-Yaroslavl
13.9 German_Schleswig-Holstein
6.7 Estonian
3.0 Polish_Warmia-Masuria
1.7 Russian_Pskov
1.5 Chamar
0.5 Maya

Without Brandenburg 2 possibilities:


Target: MARIUSZ_KORICINSKI
Distance: 2.9309% / 2.93090455
45.8 Polish_Warmia-Masuria
30.6 Russian_Tver-Yaroslavl
13.0 Austrian_Lower_Austria
9.9 Polish_Silesia
0.5 Chamar
0.2 Maya

Target: MARIUSZ_KORICINSKI
Distance: 2.9735% / 2.97348440
30.9 Russian_Tver-Yaroslavl
30.7 Polish_Silesia
28.1 Polish_Warmia-Masuria
9.6 German_Saarland
0.4 Chamar
0.2 Maya
0.1 Ho

Good to see also Asian part. With this results no northern Germany. My friend Nicola claims I have some ancestry from Austria/Hungary and this results show it.

[Leto]

I have Gedmatch of a guy whose mother is German (Volga) and father is an ethnic Russian. All three were tested (plus his Russian/Jewish wife). I can post if anyone's interested. He scores artificially similar to some of those Slav-blooded Eastern Germans.

[Luke35]

I have Gedmatch of a guy whose mother is German (Volga) and father is an ethnic Russian. All three were tested (plus his Russian/Jewish wife). I can post if anyone's interested. He scores artificially similar to some of those Slav-blooded Eastern Germans.

I'm always interested in German mixes. Bring it on, if you feel like posting it Leto. Thanks

[Leto]

Volga German mother

North_Atlantic 44.96 Pct
Baltic 24.35 Pct
West_Med 14.09 Pct
West_Asian 4.91 Pct
East_Med 9.38 Pct
Red_Sea -
South_Asian -
East_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian 1.31 Pct
Oceanian 0.32 Pct
Northeast_African 0.25 Pct
Sub-Saharan 0.41 Pct

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 West_German 3.39
2 South_Dutch 3.89
3 Southeast_English 6.29
4 North_German 6.99
5 Danish 7.96
6 North_Dutch 8.03
7 Orcadian 8.31
8 French 8.66
9 Southwest_English 8.82
10 Austrian 8.9
11 Irish 9.57
12 West_Scottish 9.98
13 Norwegian 10.08
14 East_German 10.17
15 Swedish 10.66
16 Hungarian 13.06
17 North_Swedish 14.58
18 Spanish_Cataluna 16
19 Portuguese 17.28
20 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 17.3

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 79.7% Southeast_English + 20.3% Bulgarian @ 2.2
2 74.5% Southeast_English + 25.5% Serbian @ 2.23
3 77.6% Southeast_English + 22.4% Romanian @ 2.26
4 72.7% Norwegian + 27.3% Tuscan @ 2.68
5 68.5% Norwegian + 31.5% North_Italian @ 2.79
6 83.7% West_German + 16.3% Norwegian @ 2.82
7 75.3% West_German + 24.7% Southeast_English @ 2.84
8 83.6% Southeast_English + 16.4% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.87
9 85.1% West_German + 14.9% Swedish @ 2.87
10 80.5% West_German + 19.5% Danish @ 2.87
11 80.8% West_German + 19.2% North_Dutch @ 2.89
12 89.6% West_German + 10.4% North_Swedish @ 2.95
13 83% West_German + 17% Orcadian @ 2.99
14 77.8% Danish + 22.2% Tuscan @ 3.01
15 74.1% Danish + 25.9% North_Italian @ 3.02
16 80.3% West_German + 19.7% North_German @ 3.02
17 69.7% Southeast_English + 30.3% Hungarian @ 3.03
18 76.9% Norwegian + 23.1% West_Sicilian @ 3.04
19 77.7% North_Dutch + 22.3% Tuscan @ 3.08
20 93.6% West_German + 6.4% Southwest_Finnish @ 3.08

Russian father

North_Atlantic 25.05 Pct
Baltic 47.92 Pct
West_Med 10.39 Pct
West_Asian 6.42 Pct
East_Med 3.24 Pct
Red_Sea -
South_Asian 1.15 Pct
East_Asian 0.68 Pct
Siberian 3.38 Pct
Amerindian 0.73 Pct
Oceanian 1.03 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Southwest_Russian 3.79
2 Russian_Smolensk 4.54
3 Ukrainian_Belgorod 4.62
4 Estonian_Polish 4.64
5 Kargopol_Russian 5.05
6 Ukrainian 5.67
7 Belorussian 6.07
8 Polish 6.36
9 Ukrainian_Lviv 6.76
10 Erzya 7.02
11 Lithuanian 7.94
12 South_Polish 8.1
13 Estonian 9.01
14 East_Finnish 10.38
15 Finnish 10.98
16 Croatian 13.02
17 Southwest_Finnish 13.53
18 Moldavian 15.24
19 Hungarian 17.22
20 East_German 18.52

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 56.1% Ukrainian + 43.9% Erzya @ 2.19
2 52.9% Polish + 47.1% Erzya @ 2.49
3 53.9% Kargopol_Russian + 46.1% Ukrainian @ 2.66
4 62.4% Southwest_Russian + 37.6% Kargopol_Russian @ 2.83
5 54.1% Erzya + 45.9% South_Polish @ 2.83
6 51.2% Ukrainian_Lviv + 48.8% Erzya @ 2.83
7 53.5% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 46.5% Kargopol_Russian @ 2.94
8 59.9% Kargopol_Russian + 40.1% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 3.02
9 54.4% Russian_Smolensk + 45.6% Kargopol_Russian @ 3.04
10 65.3% Russian_Smolensk + 34.7% Erzya @ 3.05
11 86.6% Russian_Smolensk + 13.4% Chuvash @ 3.13
12 95.3% Russian_Smolensk + 4.7% Selkup @ 3.18
13 89.6% Russian_Smolensk + 10.4% Mari @ 3.2
14 95.3% Russian_Smolensk + 4.7% Ket @ 3.2
15 76.2% Southwest_Russian + 23.8% Erzya @ 3.25
16 58.6% Kargopol_Russian + 41.4% Polish @ 3.25
17 85.2% Estonian_Polish + 14.8% Tatar @ 3.26
18 94.8% Russian_Smolensk + 5.2% Hakas @ 3.27
19 65.6% Estonian_Polish + 34.4% Erzya @ 3.31
20 94.6% Russian_Smolensk + 5.4% Shors @ 3.31

Russian-German son

North_Atlantic 35.28 Pct
Baltic 35.87 Pct
West_Med 13.88 Pct
West_Asian 3.28 Pct
East_Med 6.92 Pct
Red_Sea -
South_Asian 0.51 Pct
East_Asian 1.08 Pct
Siberian 1.5 Pct
Amerindian 0.99 Pct
Oceanian 0.59 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan 0.11 Pct

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 East_German 5.1
2 Hungarian 6.65
3 Austrian 7.13
4 South_Polish 7.92
5 Croatian 8.62
6 Ukrainian_Lviv 9.73
7 Ukrainian 9.96
8 Polish 10.74
9 North_Swedish 11.23
10 Southwest_Finnish 11.41
11 Moldavian 11.7
12 Swedish 13.94
13 North_German 13.95
14 Russian_Smolensk 14.17
15 Serbian 14.17
16 West_German 14.26
17 Southwest_Russian 14.28
18 Estonian_Polish 14.38
19 Belorussian 14.45
20 South_Dutch 14.98

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 63.2% Estonian + 36.8% Spanish_Valencia @ 2.02
2 61.2% Estonian + 38.8% Spanish_Cataluna @ 2.1
3 63.5% Estonian + 36.5% Spanish_Murcia @ 2.25
4 64.9% Estonian + 35.1% Spanish_Andalucia @ 2.29
5 61.6% Estonian + 38.4% Portuguese @ 2.44
6 57.3% Lithuanian + 42.7% Spanish_Cataluna @ 2.47
7 67.6% Belorussian + 32.4% Spanish_Aragon @ 2.58
8 63.4% Estonian + 36.6% Spanish_Extremadura @ 2.59
9 63.5% Belorussian + 36.5% Spanish_Cataluna @ 2.63
10 62.3% Estonian + 37.7% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 2.66
11 64.1% Estonian + 35.9% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 2.73
12 56.8% Estonian_Polish + 43.2% French @ 2.73
13 50.2% Lithuanian + 49.8% French @ 2.78
14 64.4% Ukrainian + 35.6% Southeast_English @ 2.8
15 59.6% Lithuanian + 40.4% Spanish_Murcia @ 2.81
16 59.4% Lithuanian + 40.6% Spanish_Valencia @ 2.83
17 56.7% Belorussian + 43.3% French @ 2.84
18 65.2% Belorussian + 34.8% Spanish_Cantabria @ 2.9
19 60.7% Ukrainian + 39.3% South_Dutch @ 2.93
20 64.4% Belorussian + 35.6% Southwest_French @ 2.98

This family repatriated to Germany from Russia or Kazakhstan. If it weren't for the minor Mongoloid, he would be a fairly normal Eastern German. Though I must personally add I find his Russian father's results very solid and nice Probably R1a.

Dodecad K12b

Maria,7.06,0.57,0,0,35.44,41.77,0.9,0,3.23,0,10.93,0.09
Sergej,6.75,3.87,0.4,0,22.2,55.46,2,0,0,0.25,9.05,0
Alexander,6.16,2.38,0.24,0.26,29.53,48.14,0.42,0,2.15,0.88,9.84,0

[Luke35]

^^^Just having a little fun, I wanted to see how my method for phasing a child (or parent) would work in this case. It usually works well when parents are of different ethnicities, and is less precise when parents are of the same ethnicity.

I made every component an average 50/50 between the parents.

First the actual son, second is the phased son.

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Russian_German_son,35.28,35.87,13.88,3.28,6.92,0,0.51,1.08,1.5,0.99,0.59,0,0.11

Spoiler!

Distance to: Russian_German_son
4.12473029 Czech
4.26527842 German_Saxony
4.97165968 Austrian_Carinthia
5.94922684 Slovak
5.98382821 German_North_Bohemia
6.18780252 Slovenian
6.34028391 German_West_Prussia
6.72950221 Hungarian_North
7.13113595 Sorb
7.19219021 German_County_Glatz
7.29090529 German_Ore_Mountains_Saxony
7.43671971 Hungarian_Transdanubia+Budapest
7.59643337 Croat_North
7.99124521 Austrian
8.01459918 Hungarian
8.22781867 German_Saxony-Anhalt_south
8.32369509 German_Farther_Pomerania
8.68015553 Hungarian_Alföld
8.96812689 Polish_South
9.23985389 Lemko_Poland
9.35235265 Polish_Lesser_Poland
9.57483681 Ukrainian_Galicia
9.74039527 Upper_Silesia
10.11167147 Polish_Greater_Poland
10.14474741 Polish_Silesia

Russian_German_son_theoretical,35.01,36.14,12.24,5.67,6.31,0,0.57,0.34,1.69,1.02,0.67,0.12,0.20

Spoiler!

Distance to: Russian_German_son_theoretical
2.53402841 Czech
3.68286573 German_Saxony
4.32584096 German_West_Prussia
5.00249938 Slovak
5.76078988 Austrian_Carinthia
6.01529717 Slovenian
6.04309523 Sorb
6.20349095 German_North_Bohemia
6.29832517 Hungarian_North
6.69271993 German_County_Glatz
6.95761453 German_Ore_Mountains_Saxony
6.99976428 Hungarian_Transdanubia+Budapest
7.07556358 German_Farther_Pomerania
7.21895422 Croat_North
7.59573565 Polish_South
7.68738577 Hungarian
7.86168557 Austrian
8.02497975 German_Saxony-Anhalt_south
8.10620750 Upper_Silesia
8.33181853 Polish_Lesser_Poland
8.41102847 Hungarian_Alföld
8.47699239 Ukrainian_Galicia
8.75221115 Lemko_Poland
9.00347711 Polish_Greater_Poland
9.13070643 Polish_Silesia

[J. Ketch]

Yeah, it's interesting.... My dad (NOT German), seems to score slightly higher 'West Asian' than 'East Med'... Not sure what that entails...
I see that 'Baltic' admix is extremely high amongst North Germans.

Having higher West Asian than East Med is the norm for the British Isles and more Northern Germanic populations, it's only South/West of the Rhine that East Med starts to exceed West Asian, from Celtic and Roman influence. West Asian partly comes from Bell Beakers>Steppe, as Insular Celts get it slightly higher than English for example.

[J. Ketch]

Right, gotcha. No doubt, 'Baltic' is the lowest the furthest away from you unironically get from the Baltic region? The Iberian Peninsula?
Although, from this thread, there was that guy's admix from Rheinland-Pfatz, shown by JQP4545, who scores a slightly lower 'Baltic' amount than my dad. He does score higher 'East Med' than 'West Asian', though.

Within Europe, Sardinia, and places where Indo-Europeans had the least influence.

Sardinian,23.14,1.64,49.58,0.38,22.02,2.41,0,0.13,0.03,0,0.31,0.26,0.1