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    Quote Originally Posted by Token View Post
    Another scam.
    As a Germanic patriot you should be happy that these companies "make everyone Germanic", no ???
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peterski View Post
    As a Germanic patriot you should be happy that these companies "make everyone Germanic", no ???
    Trying yo be a spoilsport? No, because I do it to give you a chance. And you use it every time

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peterski View Post
    As a Germanic patriot you should be happy that these companies "make everyone Germanic", no ???

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    A measly 10 per cent—according to Genomelink, anyway.

    You have Scandinavian Viking as a part of your ancestors

    Your Viking Index
    10%

    You are in 10% percentile compared with all Genomelink users
    The “Viking Index” indicates your own relationship to the ancient people of Scandinavia who lived 1,000 years ago, and spread out across the world in a series of migrations and raids. Our index is generated using ancient DNA from the period of the Vikings, and measures the genetic differences between you, and these people who died more than 1,000 years ago in Sweden.

    If you are 100% Viking that means you are genetically the same as the ancient people, though the reality is that because of migration into Scandinavia since the Viking period very few people hit this metric.

    The “Viking index” measures not only the relationship to these ancient people, but reflects the reality that peoples have mixed and merged since the Viking Age. Modern Scandinavians descend mostly of these people, but also have ancestry from all the groups the Vikings interacted with.
    https://genomelink.io/reports/viking/result/

    Hunter-gatherers 1%
    First Farmers 8%
    Steppe pastoralists 23%
    Indigenous Americans 3%
    West African 4%
    East Asian 9%
    South Asian 52%


    South Asians emerge from the mixing of the people of western and southeast Eurasia 5,000 years ago. While their paternal ancestors are often more related to peoples to the west, their maternal ancestors are more like peoples to the east. The diversity of South Asians, 25% of humanity, is the outcome of recent mixing, and prefigures our modern world.

    South Asians exhibit massive physical, culture, and linguistic diversity. From the Indo-Aryan peoples of the north and west, some of whom are light-skinned and light-eyed, to the Dravidian peoples of the south, small and dark-skinned. All emerge out of the same process and mixture.

    These connections mean that South Asian ancestry and heritage is found far outside of modern South Asia. From closely related to Iranians, to Roma groups in Europe which descend from South Asian nomads.

    Going back thousands of years many of the ancestors of South Asians and Europeans are shared, speaking Indo-European languages, and expanding out of the steppe. This shared ancestry often results in Europeans registering “South Asian” ancestry and the inverse
    https://genomelink.io/reports/ancestry/result/

    4,200 years ago there was a massive climatic shock across Eurasia. Drought spread across the land. This event resulted in the fall of the Old Kingdom of Egypt, the overthrow of the Mesopotamia dynasty of Sargon of Akkad, and perhaps, the first step in the collapse of the cities of the Indus Valley Civilization. For the two former civilizations, we have actual texts and historical documents. For the third, we have archaeology. We do not know what they called themselves, though the Mesopotamians seem to have called them the Meluhhans. Their civilization included most of modern Pakistan and parts of the northwest India. This civilization was anchored by two great cities: Mohenjo Daro and Harappa.

    After 2000 BC, this civilization went into decline. The cities disappeared. Human society in these regions devolved to small-scale villages.

    We do not know what language the Meluhhans spoke, but we do know a little about their genes. Their ancestors had occupied the eastern edge of the Iranian plateau. They may have developed farming independently, with some inspiration from their cousins to the west. They expanded eastward into the Indus River Basin. Over 5,000 years ago, the Meluhhans mixed with hunter-gatherers moving north and west - people distantly related to the indigenous people of Southeast Asia. The resulting population was a synthesis of west and east, though perhaps with slightly more western heritage.

    Today, this ancestral component is the largest fraction in India. It is most prominent in Dravidian speaking groups of the south, who seem to have arisen through the mixture of people who migrated from this society and indigenous hunter-gatherer groups.

    While the north of the subcontinent has been washed over by outsiders - Aryans, Huns, and Turks - the south has been insulated from war and exposed to trade. Roman colonies and Roman coins were numerous along the southern coast. This may have shielded this region from the shock of Islamic invasions and allowed great temples to be built around the southern tip of the subcontinent.
    Y-DNA (P): R1b-S47 (Irish/Scot), E1b1b1 (Proto-Semitic), C1b-Z5896. mtDNA (M): W6 (Gotland/Sweden). Ancient (European) Origins: Indo-European (Metal Age Invader) 67%, Early/First/Neolithic European Farmer (EEF/FEF/ENF) 8–10%, WHG 3–7%; Turkey 20–30%; Caucasian-Anatolian-Balkan 40–43%; Volga Region 18–20%; Ukrainian 11–12%; Viking 10%; Scandinavian 6–7% EHG–Steppe: Corded Ware 28–34, Yamnaya (Steppe Pastoralist) 23–25%, Bell Beaker 22–24%; Steppe to SCAsian 20–23%; Euro HG 11-12% CHG/Iran: Caucasus (CHG) 31–33%; Iran_N 54–60%; IVC 64-67%


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    Quote Originally Posted by Token View Post
    Another scam.
    DNA analysis still has limitations, even more so here.

    They now have a new category:

    Hunter VS Farmer

    Our “Admixture” analysis indicates how much ancient DNA you have. Are you more Farmers or Hunter-gatherers?
    Claiming to be "backed by science":

    Backed by science

    Razib Khan


    Razib Khan is a geneticist and public intellectual who has worked in personal genomics in the private sector. have written for publications that include The New York Times, MIT Technology Review, City Journal, National Review & The Guardian, on a broad range of topics.
    https://genomelink.io/reports/hunter-vs-farmer/

    Not sure if backed by science or by Razib Khan

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    Quote Originally Posted by VikLevaPatel View Post
    Hunter-gatherers 1%
    First Farmers 8%
    Steppe pastoralists 23%
    Indigenous Americans 3%
    West African 4%
    East Asian 9%
    South Asian 52%


    https://genomelink.io/reports/ancestry/result/
    As is correctly pointed out here, "For this to even be valid you would need MASSIVE sample sizes from diverse communities, and census data based on caste proportion down to subcaste."

    HOW ACCURATE IS GEDMATCH? AND DOES ANYONE KNOW WHICH CALCULATOR TO USE FOR A MORE ACCURATE POPULATION COMPARISON? I’M CONFLICTED SINCE GEDMATCH, 23ANDME, FTDNA, AND GENOMELINK HAVE GIVEN ME DIFFERENT RESULTS.
    https://archive.is/qEO3w#selection-1237.0-1257.31

    Results are not apples to apples
    To complicate matters 1% S Asian for a European is not the same as 1% S Asian for a W Asian. Whereas the 1% S Asian for a European could translate to 6% total S Asian, if the European references have a 5% S Asian base, the 1% S Asian showing up in a result say for a Kurd or Iranian 23andMe subject could translate to a 16% TOTAL S Asian, since the Middle Eastern references, if they are Iranians, could already have a 15% S Asian base. Therefore, 1% S Asian for a northern European would not be equal to 1% S Asian for say an Iranian or Kurd.
    As this anthrogenica forum user also points out, "I personally have never been a fan of the South Indian component coz it's so vague - lumps up AASI and ancient West and East Eurasian components."
    Last edited by VikLevaPatel; 01-09-2022 at 06:29 AM.
    Y-DNA (P): R1b-S47 (Irish/Scot), E1b1b1 (Proto-Semitic), C1b-Z5896. mtDNA (M): W6 (Gotland/Sweden). Ancient (European) Origins: Indo-European (Metal Age Invader) 67%, Early/First/Neolithic European Farmer (EEF/FEF/ENF) 8–10%, WHG 3–7%; Turkey 20–30%; Caucasian-Anatolian-Balkan 40–43%; Volga Region 18–20%; Ukrainian 11–12%; Viking 10%; Scandinavian 6–7% EHG–Steppe: Corded Ware 28–34, Yamnaya (Steppe Pastoralist) 23–25%, Bell Beaker 22–24%; Steppe to SCAsian 20–23%; Euro HG 11-12% CHG/Iran: Caucasus (CHG) 31–33%; Iran_N 54–60%; IVC 64-67%


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    G25 for the win :

    Distance: 1.9624% / 0.01962356
    42.8 England_IA (England Iron Age Celtics)
    32.0 ISL_Viking_Age_Pre_Christian (Icelandic Viking Germanic before the Christian age which was more Germanic less celtic in Iceland)
    25.2 SVK_Poprad_MA (Germanic Vandal invader of Slovakia middle ages)

    ^ 32.0 percent Viking more or less

    IllustrativeDNA individual samples :

    Fit: 1.855

    Germanic Scandinavian (Iron Age) – VK390 34.1%

    Germanic Visigoth invader (Iberia) – I12163 27.6%

    Insular Celt (Roman period) – S14491 38.3%

    ^34.1% Viking

    Quote Originally Posted by VikLevaPatel
    HOW ACCURATE IS GEDMATCH? AND DOES ANYONE KNOW WHICH CALCULATOR TO USE FOR A MORE ACCURATE POPULATION COMPARISON? I’M CONFLICTED SINCE GEDMATCH, 23ANDME, FTDNA, AND GENOMELINK HAVE GIVEN ME DIFFERENT RESULTS.

    https://archive.is/qEO3w#selection-1237.0-1257.31
    GEDmatch is outdated and while G25 is no longer cutting edge is better than GEDmatch for layman purposes. IllustrativeDNA is based on G25.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VikLevaPatel View Post
    DNA analysis still has limitations, even more so here.

    They now have a new category:



    Claiming to be "backed by science":



    https://genomelink.io/reports/hunter-vs-farmer/

    Not sure if backed by science or by Razib Khan

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    Razib CONman

    Fuck Razib man IllustrativeDNA has farmer vs HG (Hunter Gatherer) too :

    Anatolian Neolithic Farmer
    45.8%
    European Hunter-Gatherer
    46.6%
    Caucasus Hunter-Gatherer
    7.6%


    I always said genomelink is like the poor man's inferior version of sequencing.com

    Sequencing.com has the best general one I did its like as if 23andme or AncestryDNA were not run by retards :

    100% European :

    British or Irish 71%
    French or German 18%
    Broadly NorthWest European 8%
    East European or Russian 3% (probably some slavshit mixed in with my mainland continental Germanic admixture like Prussian residue or something)

    They have an ancient DNA one too for mapping purposes etc...

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesBond007 View Post
    Razib CONman

    Fuck Razib man IllustrativeDNA has farmer vs HG (Hunter Gatherer) too :

    Anatolian Neolithic Farmer
    45.8%
    European Hunter-Gatherer
    46.6%
    Caucasus Hunter-Gatherer
    7.6%


    I always said genomelink is like the poor man's inferior version of sequencing.com

    Sequencing.com has the best general one I did its like as if 23andme or AncestryDNA were not run by retards :

    100% European :

    British or Irish 71%
    French or German 18%
    Broadly NorthWest European 8%
    East European or Russian 3% (probably some slavshit mixed in with my mainland continental Germanic admixture like Prussian residue or something)

    They have an ancient DNA one too for mapping purposes etc...
    Great Post! The more I think about it the more I like this description: "genomelink is like the poor man's inferior version of sequencing.com"

    I get the feeling GEDmatch is only good for DNA Matches and Archaic DNA Matches especially as those free admixture calculators can be incomplete, inaccurate, inconsistent, outdated, or simply incorrect. The whole site looks and feels outdated, and they're only good for making comparisons and even then Genoplot does a much better job than GEDmatch.

    ILLUSTRATIVE DNA, based in Tallinn, Estonia, also has the most relevant AASI (Ancient Ancestral South Indian) component category unlike those Genoplot and GEDmatch calculators.

    And GenePlaza is also excellent for Ancestry and Bronze Age DNA Tests.

    You can read a complete discussion on this 'AASI' admixture here: https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/search/text/aasi%20%20/, https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/search/text/AASI/

    The bottom line is: There is no free lunch. You gotta pay.

    See my review of Sequencing:

    Best Of The Best. Must Have 30x WGS Kit. Top-Notch Genomics Company And Customer Service
    Super Awesome Company And Staff. Sequencing.com is highly responsive, provides excellent customer support, has high ethical standards and integrity, and stands behind its products and services. Their mastery of service excellence is unsurpassed, and I cannot recommend them highly enough not only for their unsurpassed experience and professionalism, but also because they consistently provide their customers with superior value. I have absolutely full authority to speak on this topic! I have dealt with and ordered kits or items from well over 20 genomics & genetics companies and Sequencing.com in my view and my vast experience is in the top 5 along with AncestryDNA, 23andMe, MyHeritage, and FamilyTreeDNA. And if I were to add four more consumer genetics companies, the top 9 list would include CRI Genetics, DNA Geoset (Delaware), GenePlaza (Belgium), and GenePlanet (Slovenia).
    Reply from Sequencing.com:

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    Last edited by VikLevaPatel; 02-26-2022 at 01:47 AM. Reason: grammar
    Y-DNA (P): R1b-S47 (Irish/Scot), E1b1b1 (Proto-Semitic), C1b-Z5896. mtDNA (M): W6 (Gotland/Sweden). Ancient (European) Origins: Indo-European (Metal Age Invader) 67%, Early/First/Neolithic European Farmer (EEF/FEF/ENF) 8–10%, WHG 3–7%; Turkey 20–30%; Caucasian-Anatolian-Balkan 40–43%; Volga Region 18–20%; Ukrainian 11–12%; Viking 10%; Scandinavian 6–7% EHG–Steppe: Corded Ware 28–34, Yamnaya (Steppe Pastoralist) 23–25%, Bell Beaker 22–24%; Steppe to SCAsian 20–23%; Euro HG 11-12% CHG/Iran: Caucasus (CHG) 31–33%; Iran_N 54–60%; IVC 64-67%


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    This one from DNAGenics is probably more reliable, at least it shows relevant samples.

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