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    Quote Originally Posted by Stearsolina View Post
    For example, both of these averages are from same state (NRW), but genetically they are clearly different.

    Distance to: German_North_Rhine

    2.68694994 French_Northeast
    2.95240580 Belgian
    3.22003106 German_South_Hesse
    3.41274083 Flemish
    3.46075136 German_Baden-Württemberg
    3.53605713 Pennsylvania_Dutch
    3.62082863 French_Alsace
    3.66415065 Austrian_Upper_Austria
    3.75864337 German_Saarland
    3.76350900 German_Lower/Middle_Franconia

    Distance to: German_Westphalia

    0.84338603 German_Lower_Saxony_South
    2.21752114 Dutch
    2.31177421 Dutch_Central
    2.69479127 Dutch_North
    2.87456084 German_Lower_Saxony_North
    3.12795460 German_Schleswig-Holstein
    3.30146937 English_North
    3.46209474 Icelandic
    3.53141615 English_Midlands
    3.57891045 English

    States which are genetically uniform like Baden-Württemberg have only one average. I think we are now clear about that.
    As for North Rhine and Westphalia there was also a tribal division as Westphalians are Saxons and people from the North Rhine are Franks.

    As for Baden-Württemberg it was a little surprise for me to see that there was no significant genetic difference even between North Baden and Upper Swabia, which are at the opposite ends of Baden-Württemberg. It was a bit of a pity to merge three regions with valuable separate data, but it was all the same so it seemed questionable to present them as three regions. On the other hand, now, with just one average for Baden-Württemberg, the data seem more coarse grained than it is.
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    Distance: 1.0091% / 0.01009085

    39.8 (Balto-)Slavic
    39.0 Germanic
    19.2 Celtic-like
    1.8 Graeco-Roman
    0.2 Finnic-like

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    Quote Originally Posted by rothaer View Post
    As for North Rhine and Westphalia there was also a tribal division as Westphalians are Saxons and people from the North Rhine are Franks.
    Glad to hear it put in those terms. I love the thought that the clear genetic divide that still exists between Germanic speakers in West Germany/Benelux/England/Northern France is a Saxon/Frankish tribal divide.

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    Good job Rothaer & Stearsolina!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Creoda View Post
    Glad to hear it put in those terms. I love the thought that the clear genetic divide that still exists between Germanic speakers in West Germany/Benelux/England/Northern France is a Saxon/Frankish tribal divide.
    Not always but often a common language and even a dialect indicates that people have had a common contact for quite a while with each other. And that often implies a reproduction community and that in turn implies an equalizing of genetic differences by mixing, i. e. a genetic commonality. So I think that some degree of correlation between dialect and genetics is a plausible condition.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomenable View Post
    Where did I post these averages ???
    Sorry, not by you but vbnetkhio. Though you are also aware of them and have the data.
    https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...ght=Lithuanian

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    So the names have remained in English, not in German as promised.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    So the names have remained in English, not in German as promised.
    Well, other averages have English names too including Russian ones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stearsolina View Post
    Well, other averages have English names too including Russian ones.
    Yes, Russian is written in Cyrillic.
    Anyway, no means no. By the way, none of those original samples were ever posted when I was posting the ones I found. I think posting German Gedmatch makes no sense anymore.

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    Thank You! My German-American mother's results:

    Distance to: Mr.G_mother
    2.07708931 Flemish
    2.49387249 Belgian
    2.60931025 Dutch_South
    2.69273096 German_Rhineland-Palatinate_East_of_Rhine
    3.26081278 Afrikaner
    3.80889748 German_North_Rhine
    4.12498485 French_Normandy
    4.61559314 English_Southeast
    4.73213482 German_Lower/Middle_Franconia
    4.75646928 German_North_Hesse
    4.99953998 French_Northwest
    5.27050282 French_Northeast
    5.31379337 English_Midlands
    5.38855268 German
    5.38925783 Austrian_Upper_Austria
    5.55585277 English
    5.63426126 Dutch
    5.73979094 German_North_Moravia
    5.77093580 German_South_Hesse
    5.84968375 French_Brittany
    5.92307353 German_Lower_Saxony_South
    5.99088474 German_Baden-Württemberg
    6.11247086 German_Westphalia
    6.16031655 English_Southwest
    6.19863695 French_Alsace

    Target: Mr.G_mother
    Distance: 0.3689% / 0.36892888 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    41.7 German_Rhineland-Palatinate_East_of_Rhine
    25.5 Flemish
    13.3 German_Lower_Saxony_South
    12.1 German_Thuringia_Central
    5.7 Afrikaner
    1.7 German_North_Moravia

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    Please replace Moldova South average for K13

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    Moldovan_South,21.78,28.89,15.87,9.76,18.84,2.00,0.55,0.49,0.66,0.64,0.22,0.12,0.18

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