Bosniak Gedmatch results

**vbnetkhio** · 01-18-2022, 11:24 AM

Originally Posted by Stearsolina

That looks fine! Here with renamed Bosniak

Code:

Bosniak_Central_Northeastern,25.73,35.04,14.18,8.58,12.19,1.26,0.98,0.31,0.62,0.60,0.25,0.16,0.10

Is this labeling applicable (NE sounds bit wider than just Tuzla, unless you expects rest of NE to be different)?

Northeast is ok.
here's what should be added then.

Code:

Bosniak_Eastern_Krajina,25.43,33.89,15.88,9.11,11.04,2.17,0.44,0.41,0.17,0.92,0.30,0.18,0.08
Bosniak_Southeast,24.67,30.37,16.69,8.45,15.57,1.96,0.64,0.38,0.30,0.50,0.31,0.17,0.00
Bosniak_Cazin_Bihac,27.62,30.59,15.24,8.49,14.98,0.74,0.11,0.45,0.27,0.73,0.64,0.12,0.02
Bosniak,24.88,32.47,15.40,8.91,13.89,1.77,0.79,0.51,0.57,0.47,0.26,0.02,0.06

**Jana** · 01-18-2022, 11:28 AM

Originally Posted by vbnetkhio

Northeast is ok.
here's what should be added then.

Code:

Bosniak_Eastern_Krajina,25.43,33.89,15.88,9.11,11.04,2.17,0.44,0.41,0.17,0.92,0.30,0.18,0.08
Bosniak_Southeast,24.67,30.37,16.69,8.45,15.57,1.96,0.64,0.38,0.30,0.50,0.31,0.17,0.00
Bosniak_Cazin_Bihac,27.62,30.59,15.24,8.49,14.98,0.74,0.11,0.45,0.27,0.73,0.64,0.12,0.02
Bosniak,24.88,32.47,15.40,8.91,13.89,1.77,0.79,0.51,0.57,0.47,0.26,0.02,0.06

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Nice work.

Russki · 01-18-2022, 11:33 AM

Originally Posted by Stearsolina

No. Southern Croat and Serb averages are very stable and representative, made of huge sample size. With people with full ancestry from these regions.

How many people for each Croatian region?

**Jana** · 01-18-2022, 11:37 AM

Originally Posted by Russki

How many people for each Croatian region?

Lot more than 5-10. Serbs and Croats are well sampled, eastern Croatia was exception and undersampled.
Anyway, sample size isn't overly important, it's much more important how deeply rooted samples are because on small areas everyone will be genetically similar unless some kind of societal separation (eg Gypsies, Jews)

**MoroLP** · 01-18-2022, 11:37 AM

Okay, the new Bosniak average is much closer to shown Croatian averages. Distance is between 0.98-2.04

Distance to: Bosniak
0.98096891 Croat_Herzegovina
1.78795973 Croat_Slavonia
1.86225670 Serb_Republika_Srpska
1.93134668 Croat_Bosnia
1.93297698 Romanian_North-Moldavia
2.04763278 Croat_Dalmatia
2.31864184 Moldovan_Central
2.39589232 Moldovan
2.66368166 Moldovan_North
3.05452124 Bosniak_Southeast
3.11891007 Croat_Istria
3.12840215 Serb_Croatia
3.17474408 Croat_Lika
3.37555921 Bosniak_Eastern_Krajina
3.77790947 Bosniak_Cazin_Bihac
3.82602927 Serb
3.87900761 Croat
3.94924043 Romanian_Maramureș
3.94997468 Serb_West
4.16014423 Serb_Central
4.19909514 Croat_Kvarner
4.69772285 Serb_Vojvodina
5.42602986 Csángó-Ceangău
5.43825340 Serb_Herzegovina
5.51455347 Serb_South

Distance to: Bosniak_Cazin_Bihac
1.89425447 Croat_Istria
2.65697196 Croat_Bosnia
2.66078936 Croat_Dalmatia
2.94844027 Serb_Croatia
3.04276190 Croat_Lika
3.04412549 Romanian_Maramureș
3.33235652 Romanian_North-Moldavia
3.35320742 Serb_Republika_Srpska
3.36514487 Croat_Slavonia
3.47982758 Croat_Kvarner
3.51247776 Serb_West
3.62531378 Bosniak_Southeast
3.70956871 Croat_Herzegovina
3.77790947 Bosniak
3.78800739 Serb_Central
3.87586119 Hungarian_Transylvania+Székely
3.89575410 Serb
3.95073411 Croat
4.28277947 Serb_Vojvodina
4.77651547 Moldovan_Central
4.86928126 Moldovan
4.92058940 Csángó-Ceangău
4.93123717 Romanian_Crișana
5.15746062 Serb_Herzegovina
5.61398254 Hungarian_Alföld

Distance to: Bosniak_Central_Northeast
2.56573576 Moldovan_North
2.70994465 Bosniak_Eastern_Krajina
2.99766576 Croat_Slavonia
3.34300763 Croat
3.49164718 Bosniak
3.57937145 Croat_Bosnia
3.65282083 Croat_Herzegovina
3.74611799 Croat_Lika
3.92782382 Croat_Kvarner
4.28856619 Croat_Dalmatia
4.40917226 Croat_Central
4.41583514 Ukrainian_Carpathians
4.61675211 Croat_Istria
4.65542694 Lemko_Poland
4.71554875 Hungarian_Alföld
5.01732997 Romanian_North-Moldavia
5.05541294 Serb_Republika_Srpska
5.22025861 Moldovan_Central
5.45078893 Moldovan
5.72807996 Hungarian_North
5.79972413 Bosniak_Cazin_Bihac
5.80510982 Hungarian
6.41528643 Serb_Croatia
6.43509907 Bosniak_Southeast
6.49907686 Csángó-Ceangău

Distance to: Bosniak_Eastern_Krajina
3.04272904 Moldovan_North
3.22738284 Croat_Slavonia
3.37555921 Bosniak
3.44831843 Croat
3.54216036 Croat_Herzegovina
3.55066191 Croat_Dalmatia
3.61643471 Croat_Lika
3.62818136 Croat_Bosnia
4.39461034 Croat_Kvarner
4.44429972 Serb_Republika_Srpska
4.58772275 Croat_Istria
4.72419305 Croat_Central
4.77342644 Romanian_North-Moldavia
4.86943529 Hungarian_Alföld
5.03266331 Moldovan_Central
5.15306705 Moldovan
5.47413920 Lemko_Poland
5.64528122 Csángó-Ceangău
5.85901016 Bosniak_Cazin_Bihac
5.87509149 Serb_Croatia
5.88102032 Ukrainian_Carpathians
5.90470152 Bosniak_Southeast
5.98614233 Hungarian
6.19718484 Serb_West
6.25596515 Romanian_Maramureș

Distance to: Bosniak_Southeast
1.01123687 Serb_Croatia
1.36370818 Serb_Central
1.40264037 Serb
1.92007812 Serb_Republika_Srpska
1.98083316 Serb_Vojvodina
2.10660865 Serb_West
2.43238566 Romanian_North-Moldavia
2.58497582 Serb_Herzegovina
2.59090718 Romanian_Maramureș
2.82248118 Moldovan
2.95465734 Croat_Herzegovina
2.97916096 Serb_South
3.05452124 Bosniak
3.06049016 Moldovan_Central
3.16311555 Croat_Dalmatia
3.51055551 Croat_Bosnia
3.54632204 Romanian_Crișana
3.62531378 Bosniak_Cazin_Bihac
3.82393776 Croat_Istria
3.88230602 Croat_Slavonia
4.28696863 Romanian_South-Moldavia
4.67609880 Croat_Lika
4.69428376 Romanian_Transylvania
4.69928718 Montenegrin
5.01743959 Romanian

**Varda** · 01-18-2022, 12:53 PM

Originally Posted by MoroLP

Okay, the new Bosniak average is much closer to shown Croatian averages. Distance is between 0.98-2.04

Distance to: Bosniak
0.98096891 Croat_Herzegovina
1.78795973 Croat_Slavonia
1.86225670 Serb_Republika_Srpska
1.93134668 Croat_Bosnia
1.93297698 Romanian_North-Moldavia
2.04763278 Croat_Dalmatia
2.31864184 Moldovan_Central
2.39589232 Moldovan
2.66368166 Moldovan_North
3.05452124 Bosniak_Southeast
3.11891007 Croat_Istria
3.12840215 Serb_Croatia
3.17474408 Croat_Lika
3.37555921 Bosniak_Eastern_Krajina
3.77790947 Bosniak_Cazin_Bihac
3.82602927 Serb
3.87900761 Croat
3.94924043 Romanian_Maramureș
3.94997468 Serb_West
4.16014423 Serb_Central
4.19909514 Croat_Kvarner
4.69772285 Serb_Vojvodina
5.42602986 Csángó-Ceangău
5.43825340 Serb_Herzegovina
5.51455347 Serb_South

Distance to: Bosniak_Cazin_Bihac
1.89425447 Croat_Istria
2.65697196 Croat_Bosnia
2.66078936 Croat_Dalmatia
2.94844027 Serb_Croatia
3.04276190 Croat_Lika
3.04412549 Romanian_Maramureș
3.33235652 Romanian_North-Moldavia
3.35320742 Serb_Republika_Srpska
3.36514487 Croat_Slavonia
3.47982758 Croat_Kvarner
3.51247776 Serb_West
3.62531378 Bosniak_Southeast
3.70956871 Croat_Herzegovina
3.77790947 Bosniak
3.78800739 Serb_Central
3.87586119 Hungarian_Transylvania+Székely
3.89575410 Serb
3.95073411 Croat
4.28277947 Serb_Vojvodina
4.77651547 Moldovan_Central
4.86928126 Moldovan
4.92058940 Csángó-Ceangău
4.93123717 Romanian_Crișana
5.15746062 Serb_Herzegovina
5.61398254 Hungarian_Alföld

Distance to: Bosniak_Central_Northeast
2.56573576 Moldovan_North
2.70994465 Bosniak_Eastern_Krajina
2.99766576 Croat_Slavonia
3.34300763 Croat
3.49164718 Bosniak
3.57937145 Croat_Bosnia
3.65282083 Croat_Herzegovina
3.74611799 Croat_Lika
3.92782382 Croat_Kvarner
4.28856619 Croat_Dalmatia
4.40917226 Croat_Central
4.41583514 Ukrainian_Carpathians
4.61675211 Croat_Istria
4.65542694 Lemko_Poland
4.71554875 Hungarian_Alföld
5.01732997 Romanian_North-Moldavia
5.05541294 Serb_Republika_Srpska
5.22025861 Moldovan_Central
5.45078893 Moldovan
5.72807996 Hungarian_North
5.79972413 Bosniak_Cazin_Bihac
5.80510982 Hungarian
6.41528643 Serb_Croatia
6.43509907 Bosniak_Southeast
6.49907686 Csángó-Ceangău

Distance to: Bosniak_Eastern_Krajina
3.04272904 Moldovan_North
3.22738284 Croat_Slavonia
3.37555921 Bosniak
3.44831843 Croat
3.54216036 Croat_Herzegovina
3.55066191 Croat_Dalmatia
3.61643471 Croat_Lika
3.62818136 Croat_Bosnia
4.39461034 Croat_Kvarner
4.44429972 Serb_Republika_Srpska
4.58772275 Croat_Istria
4.72419305 Croat_Central
4.77342644 Romanian_North-Moldavia
4.86943529 Hungarian_Alföld
5.03266331 Moldovan_Central
5.15306705 Moldovan
5.47413920 Lemko_Poland
5.64528122 Csángó-Ceangău
5.85901016 Bosniak_Cazin_Bihac
5.87509149 Serb_Croatia
5.88102032 Ukrainian_Carpathians
5.90470152 Bosniak_Southeast
5.98614233 Hungarian
6.19718484 Serb_West
6.25596515 Romanian_Maramureș

Distance to: Bosniak_Southeast
1.01123687 Serb_Croatia
1.36370818 Serb_Central
1.40264037 Serb
1.92007812 Serb_Republika_Srpska
1.98083316 Serb_Vojvodina
2.10660865 Serb_West
2.43238566 Romanian_North-Moldavia
2.58497582 Serb_Herzegovina
2.59090718 Romanian_Maramureș
2.82248118 Moldovan
2.95465734 Croat_Herzegovina
2.97916096 Serb_South
3.05452124 Bosniak
3.06049016 Moldovan_Central
3.16311555 Croat_Dalmatia
3.51055551 Croat_Bosnia
3.54632204 Romanian_Crișana
3.62531378 Bosniak_Cazin_Bihac
3.82393776 Croat_Istria
3.88230602 Croat_Slavonia
4.28696863 Romanian_South-Moldavia
4.67609880 Croat_Lika
4.69428376 Romanian_Transylvania
4.69928718 Montenegrin
5.01743959 Romanian

3/5 are closer to Serbian than Croatian average, including cluster "Bosniak" (Bosniak national average).

**Jana** · 01-18-2022, 12:57 PM

Originally Posted by Varda

3/5 are closer to Serbian than Croatian average, including cluster "Bosniak" (Bosniak national average).

Average is irrelevant, it is a fantasy mid point between genetically different populations that include north Croats. And saying something is 0.1% closer is ridiculous.
Except SE Bosniaks, they are closer to Croatian regions. Deal with it and move on.

**Varda** · 01-18-2022, 12:58 PM

Originally Posted by Varda

3/5 are closer to Serbian than Croatian average, including cluster "Bosniak" (Bosniak national average).

I don't claim Bosniaks, but just say. Everyone who love fucking Bosniak should take several of them in own home.

**Varda** · 01-18-2022, 01:05 PM

Originally Posted by Stearsolina

Average is irrelevant, it is a fantasy mid point between genetically different populations that include north Croats. And saying something is 0.1% closer is ridiculous.
Except SE Bosniaks, they are closer to Croatian regions. Deal with it and move on.

In reality Bosniaks are probably more southern shifted than what that several or several dozens samples show, because in Bosnia live tons of Sandžakians for decades who are often in marriages with natives. Sandžakians are in everything superior towards the Bosnian Muslims including birth rate, and they are for sure future of Bosniak nation.