Vahaduo calcs vol.2

**Dušan** · 03-06-2022, 01:01 PM

Eurogenes K13 updated Smaller Regions

Target: Dušan
Distance: 0.8117% / 0.81172275
36.4 German_Brandenburg_Outlier(Beeskow)
22.5 Latvian
15.4 Sardinian
9.6 Greek_Konya
8.1 Greek_Epirus
4.7 Mari
2.0 Turkish_East-Black_Sea
1.3 Greek_Pontus

Target: Dušan
Distance: 2.2003% / 2.20027555 | ADC: 0.25x RC
52.3 Vlach_Serbia
35.9 German_Brandenburg_Outlier(Beeskow)
6.5 Mari
5.3 Sardinian

**Dušan** · 03-06-2022, 01:01 PM

double post

**J. Ketch** · 03-06-2022, 09:00 PM

Updated the Welsh average and split Wales into North (n=19) and South (n=13) in the smaller regional sheet.

Code:

Distance to:	Welsh
1.29468143	Scottish
1.43241056	English_North
1.50817771	English_Southwest
2.21409124	English_Midlands
2.50043996	Irish
2.61954194	English_Southeast
3.68789913	Dutch
3.80164438	Dutch_Central
4.39371142	German_Northwest
4.69894669	Dutch_North
4.91236196	French_Brittany
5.20783064	Icelandic
5.85895895	Dutch_South
6.79222349	Danish
6.89954346	Norwegian
7.39589075	Norwegian_Southcentral
7.54598569	Belgian
7.54999338	Swedish_Götaland
9.00398801	Swedish_West-Svealand
9.35368377	French_North

Distance to:	Welsh
0.33862081	2.20% Sardinian + 97.80% Scottish
0.40952922	63.00% English_Southwest + 37.00% Irish
0.41871275	5.80% French_South + 94.20% Scottish
0.48931833	19.60% French_Brittany + 80.40% Scottish
0.49614580	45.60% English_Southwest + 54.40% Scottish
0.49831428	8.00% French_Central + 92.00% Scottish
0.51773601	95.20% Scottish + 4.80% Spanish_North
0.56416367	95.60% Scottish + 4.40% Spanish_Central_&_South
0.56452019	4.60% Portuguese + 95.40% Scottish
0.59979083	5.80% Italian_Aosta_Valley + 94.20% Scottish
0.60474847	29.40% Dutch_South + 70.60% Irish
0.62138899	10.80% French_North + 89.20% Scottish
0.64103076	53.20% English_Midlands + 46.80% Irish
0.66633427	48.80% English_Southeast + 51.20% Irish
0.67488240	8.80% German_Southwest + 91.20% Scottish
0.67543393	2.80% French_Corsica + 97.20% Scottish
0.69087075	4.00% Italian_North_Alpine + 96.00% Scottish
0.69291375	17.20% German_Southwest + 82.80% Irish
0.69402740	93.80% Scottish + 6.20% Swiss_French
0.70585151	24.20% Belgian + 75.80% Irish

Code:

Distance to:	Welsh_North
1.09453186	Irish_Leinster
1.21708669	Scottish_North-Highlands
1.34810979	Scottish_Northeast
1.53339493	Scottish_Southwest
1.54667385	Scottish_East
1.60742029	British_Ulster
1.86983957	English_Yorkshire
1.97984848	Welsh_South
1.99399097	Irish_Munster
2.13255715	Irish_Connacht
2.30193397	Irish_Ulster
2.30740114	Scottish_Orkney
2.34923392	Scottish_Gaidhealtachd
2.49527554	English_Lancashire
2.67988806	Cornish
2.69490260	English_West-Country
3.23871888	English_Northeast
3.32956454	Scottish_Shetland
3.33508621	English_West-Midlands
3.86976743	English_Southeast

Code:

Distance to:	Welsh_South
0.89587946	British_Ulster
1.09603832	Scottish_North-Highlands
1.12214081	Scottish_East
1.44048603	Scottish_Northeast
1.45718907	Irish_Leinster
1.59364362	English_Yorkshire
1.61632299	Scottish_Southwest
1.97984848	Welsh_North
2.18006881	Scottish_Gaidhealtachd
2.21085956	English_West-Country
2.24548436	English_Lancashire
2.25310896	English_Northeast
2.38512054	English_West-Midlands
2.64654492	Cornish
2.66475140	Scottish_Orkney
2.67074896	English_Southeast
2.68279705	Scottish_Shetland
2.80873637	Irish_Connacht
2.91391489	English_East-Midlands
2.94176818	Irish_Munster

Good to see the Welsh getting Scots and Eastern Irish before their Saesneg neighbours.

**PLogan** · 03-07-2022, 11:22 PM

FYI - The current Eurogenes K13 updated Smaller Regions dataset has some extraneous spaces in some values. Ran into it using the dataset in a R calc.

Many have a " ." space + decimal or ". " decimal + space

Moldovan_South,21.78,28.89,15.87,9.76,18.84,2.00,0 .55,0.49,0.66,0.64,0.22,0.12,0.18

Macedonian_East,24.84,20.89,21.03,9.94,18.58,2.94, 0.13,0.52,0 .32,0.57,0.25,0.00,0.00

Moldovan_North,23.99,33.84,14.21,9.52,12.52,1.74,0. 78,0.71,1.23,0.39,0.74,0.08,0.27

Macedonian_Central,23.10,19.77,20.84,11.41,20.84,1 .98,0.35,0. 45,0.40,0.45,0.34,0.05,0.04

Bulgarian_Moldova,22.16,20.14,18.01,13.21,20.12,3. 13,1.58,0.27,0.85,0.27,0.20,0.00,0.08

**~~kingmob~~** · 03-11-2022, 05:40 AM

Is there a way to convert the MDLP Azov Greek samples and include them in the K13 list?

**MandM** · 03-12-2022, 03:08 PM

I have a colleague from work, that just got his results, he is from Palestine, and he says as far as he knows they are just Palestinian, i have so far only got his K 13 coord, can some one with more knowledge interpret his results

Mahmoud,2.99,0,14.73,19.58,38.32,13.29,1.83,0,0.94 ,0.19,0.18,4.81,3.14

**PLogan** · 03-12-2022, 05:32 PM

Eurogenes K13 Bigger Regions

Distance to: Mahmoud
4.01961441 Syrian
5.62372652 Jordanian
6.20783376 Lebanese_Muslim
8.06296472 Palestinian
8.35206561 Alawite
8.70075859 Samaritan
8.90535794 Cypriot_Turkish
10.60921769 Lebanese_Christian
10.61753738 Bedouin
13.18116459 Lebanese_Druze
13.78621413 Iraqi
14.10368746 Greek_Central_Anatolia
15.02721198 Mandaean
15.06488964 Assyrian_West
15.23302990 Assyrian_South
15.52818727 Egyptian
15.77589617 Assyrian_North
16.57168368 Jew_Sephardi
17.03400423 Jew_Caucasus
18.07799215 Greek_Islands
19.36749338 Turkish_Eastcentral
19.96747355 Maltese
20.07892178 Turkish_Westcentral
20.60630486 Turkmen_Iraq
20.62902567 Turkish_South

Target: Mahmoud
Distance: 1.3740% / 1.37401861 | ADC: 0.25x RC
59.6 Syrian
30.8 Samaritan
3.4 Moroccan_South
2.9 Cypriot_Turkish
2.5 Sudanese
0.8 San

Eurogenes K13 Smaller Regions

Distance to: Mahmoud
8.90535794 Cypriot_Turkish
10.28677306 Cypriot_Greek
11.35654877 Greek_Cyprus
13.42265995 Greek_Kastellorizo
13.52825931 Greek_Symi
13.90143877 Greek_Rhodes
14.02993229 Greek_Cappadocia
14.30629931 Greek_Dodecanese
14.43237680 Greek_Konya
14.45349093 Greek_Karpathos
15.60651467 Greek_Kos
16.47963592 Greek_Kalymnos
16.57168368 Jew_Sephardi
17.10062864 Greek_Nisyros
17.53604859 Greek_Chios
18.13431278 Greek_Ikaria
18.30914252 Greek_Crete
18.56157321 Jew_Italy
19.17146317 Italian_Calabria
19.36749338 Turkish_Eastcentral
19.90945504 Greek_Kythera
19.96747355 Maltese
20.07018685 Greek_Lesbos
20.07892178 Turkish_Westcentral
20.21297356 Greek_Deep_Mani

The distances on the smaller regions seem weird. The distance on everything seem off or too distant. Defer to the gurus in here.

Using the Bigger Regions

[1,] "16.1% Egyptian + 83.9% Syrian" "2.7512"
[2,] "61.4% Assyrian_West + 38.6% Libyan" "2.7947"
[3,] "89.4% Syrian + 10.6% Tunisian" "2.8096"
[4,] "26.6% Egyptian + 73.4% Lebanese_Muslim" "2.8259"
[5,] "81% Lebanese_Muslim + 19% Libyan" "2.8286"
[6,] "9% Mozabite + 91% Syrian" "2.9302"
[7,] "8.5% Moroccan_South + 91.5% Syrian" "2.9324"
[8,] "8.7% Moroccan + 91.3% Syrian" "2.9869"
[9,] "61.2% Assyrian_South + 38.8% Libyan" "3.0031"
[10,] "60.3% Assyrian_North + 39.7% Libyan" "3.0589"
[11,] "9.8% Libyan + 90.2% Syrian" "3.0966"
[12,] "8.5% Algerian + 91.5% Syrian" "3.0979"
[13,] "8.4% Moroccan_North + 91.6% Syrian" "3.1065"
[14,] "58.2% Egyptian + 41.8% Greek_Pontus" "3.1571"
[15,] "35.6% Cypriot_Turkish + 64.4% Jordanian" "3.2588"
[16,] "33.8% Jordanian + 66.2% Syrian" "3.2754"
[17,] "66.4% Alawite + 33.6% Egyptian" "3.3155"
[18,] "3.2% Sandawe + 96.8% Syrian" "3.3513"
[19,] "85% Lebanese_Muslim + 15% Moroccan_South" "3.3579"
[20,] "2.6% Anuak_Ethiopia + 97.4% Syrian" "3.3962"
[21,] "2.6% Sudanese + 97.4% Syrian" "3.3968"
[22,] "34% Bedouin + 66% Lebanese_Muslim" "3.4292"
[23,] "2.9% Maasai + 97.1% Syrian" "3.435"
[24,] "2.4% Gumuz_Ethiopia + 97.6% Syrian" "3.4384"
[25,] "2.5% Hadza + 97.5% Syrian" "3.4662"

**PLogan** · 03-12-2022, 06:10 PM

Using K13 Ancients_Proposed by Ajeje Brazorf_020922

Distance to: Mahmoud

> Toracle(c(2.99,0,14.73,19.58,38.32,13.29,1.83,0,0. 94 ,0.19,0.18,4.81,3.14),k=30)
[,1] [,2]
[1,] "Lebanese_Muslim:Lebanese2AQ121" "5.7442"
[2,] "Lebanese_Muslim:Lebanese11AS14" "5.7639"
[3,] "Lebanese_Muslim:Lebanese7AR20" "6.6205"
[4,] "Italy_Imperial_o4.SG:R1547.SG" "6.9548"
[5,] "Lebanese_Muslim:Lebanese24AR27" "6.9691"
[6,] "Lebanese_Muslim:Lebanese10AQ127" "7.09"
[7,] "Lebanese_Christian:Lebanese1AQ127" "7.5575"
[8,] "Lebanese_Christian:Lebanese15AR37" "7.5643"
[9,] "Lebanese_Christian:Lebanese8AS15" "7.5732"
[10,] "Lebanese_Christian:Lebanese1AQ170" "7.6137"
[11,] "Italy_Imperial_o4.SG:R42.SG" "7.6677"
[12,] "Lebanon_ERoman.SG:SFI-24.SG" "7.9156"
[13,] "Israel_MLBA:I2198" "7.9329"
[14,] "Lebanese_Muslim:Lebanese30AR21" "7.9603"
[15,] "Lebanese_Muslim:Lebanese6AS15" "8.067"
[16,] "Italy_Imperial_o4.SG:R1550.SG" "8.1943"
[17,] "Lebanon_Medieval.SG:SI-42.SG" "8.2728"
[18,] "Lebanon_Roman.SG:QED-2.SG" "8.3034"
[19,] "Lebanese_Muslim:Lebanese2AQ127" "8.4009"
[20,] "Lebanon_Roman.SG:QED-7.SG" "8.433"
[21,] "Lebanese_Christian:Lebanese6AQ115" "8.4888"
[22,] "Lebanese_Christian:Lebanese6AQ170" "8.5228"
[23,] "Italy_Imperial_o4.SG:R70.SG" "8.6313"
[24,] "Lebanon_ERoman.SG:SFI-15.SG" "8.7323"
[25,] "Israel_Ashkelon_IA2:ASH135" "8.7443"
[26,] "Turkey_Alalakh_MLBA:ALA016" "8.8158"
[27,] "Turkey_Alalakh_MLBA:ALA004" "8.8527"
[28,] "Turkey_Alalakh_MLBA:ALA013" "8.9183"
[29,] "Lebanese_Muslim:Lebanese7AR23" "9.1173"
[30,] "Lebanon_MBA.SG:ERS1790730.SG" "9.1568"

[1,] "59.2% Azerbaijan_Caucasus_lowlands_LateC:ALX002 + 40.8% CanaryIslands_Guanche.SG:gun008.SG" "2.0799"
[2,] "59.5% Azerbaijan_Caucasus_lowlands_LateC:ALX002 + 40.5% Spain_BellBeaker_oAfrica_published:I4246_published" "2.306"
[3,] "60% Azerbaijan_Caucasus_lowlands_LateC:ALX002 + 40% CanaryIslands_Guanche.SG:gun011.SG" "2.3621"
[4,] "29.4% CanaryIslands_Guanche.SG:gun002.SG + 70.6% Syria_Ebla_EMBA:ETM026" "2.6987"
[5,] "91.1% Lebanese_Christian:Lebanese1AQ170 + 8.9% Malawi_Chencherere_LSA_5200BP_all_published:I4421_ published" "2.7795"

**MandM** · 03-12-2022, 06:18 PM

Originally Posted by PLogan

Eurogenes K13 Bigger Regions

Distance to: Mahmoud
4.01961441 Syrian
5.62372652 Jordanian
6.20783376 Lebanese_Muslim
8.06296472 Palestinian
8.35206561 Alawite
8.70075859 Samaritan
8.90535794 Cypriot_Turkish
10.60921769 Lebanese_Christian
10.61753738 Bedouin
13.18116459 Lebanese_Druze
13.78621413 Iraqi
14.10368746 Greek_Central_Anatolia
15.02721198 Mandaean
15.06488964 Assyrian_West
15.23302990 Assyrian_South
15.52818727 Egyptian
15.77589617 Assyrian_North
16.57168368 Jew_Sephardi
17.03400423 Jew_Caucasus
18.07799215 Greek_Islands
19.36749338 Turkish_Eastcentral
19.96747355 Maltese
20.07892178 Turkish_Westcentral
20.60630486 Turkmen_Iraq
20.62902567 Turkish_South

Target: Mahmoud
Distance: 1.3740% / 1.37401861 | ADC: 0.25x RC
59.6 Syrian
30.8 Samaritan
3.4 Moroccan_South
2.9 Cypriot_Turkish
2.5 Sudanese
0.8 San

Eurogenes K13 Smaller Regions

Distance to: Mahmoud
8.90535794 Cypriot_Turkish
10.28677306 Cypriot_Greek
11.35654877 Greek_Cyprus
13.42265995 Greek_Kastellorizo
13.52825931 Greek_Symi
13.90143877 Greek_Rhodes
14.02993229 Greek_Cappadocia
14.30629931 Greek_Dodecanese
14.43237680 Greek_Konya
14.45349093 Greek_Karpathos
15.60651467 Greek_Kos
16.47963592 Greek_Kalymnos
16.57168368 Jew_Sephardi
17.10062864 Greek_Nisyros
17.53604859 Greek_Chios
18.13431278 Greek_Ikaria
18.30914252 Greek_Crete
18.56157321 Jew_Italy
19.17146317 Italian_Calabria
19.36749338 Turkish_Eastcentral
19.90945504 Greek_Kythera
19.96747355 Maltese
20.07018685 Greek_Lesbos
20.07892178 Turkish_Westcentral
20.21297356 Greek_Deep_Mani

The distances on the smaller regions seem weird. The distance on everything seem off or too distant. Defer to the gurus in here.

Using the Bigger Regions

[1,] "16.1% Egyptian + 83.9% Syrian" "2.7512"
[2,] "61.4% Assyrian_West + 38.6% Libyan" "2.7947"
[3,] "89.4% Syrian + 10.6% Tunisian" "2.8096"
[4,] "26.6% Egyptian + 73.4% Lebanese_Muslim" "2.8259"
[5,] "81% Lebanese_Muslim + 19% Libyan" "2.8286"
[6,] "9% Mozabite + 91% Syrian" "2.9302"
[7,] "8.5% Moroccan_South + 91.5% Syrian" "2.9324"
[8,] "8.7% Moroccan + 91.3% Syrian" "2.9869"
[9,] "61.2% Assyrian_South + 38.8% Libyan" "3.0031"
[10,] "60.3% Assyrian_North + 39.7% Libyan" "3.0589"
[11,] "9.8% Libyan + 90.2% Syrian" "3.0966"
[12,] "8.5% Algerian + 91.5% Syrian" "3.0979"
[13,] "8.4% Moroccan_North + 91.6% Syrian" "3.1065"
[14,] "58.2% Egyptian + 41.8% Greek_Pontus" "3.1571"
[15,] "35.6% Cypriot_Turkish + 64.4% Jordanian" "3.2588"
[16,] "33.8% Jordanian + 66.2% Syrian" "3.2754"
[17,] "66.4% Alawite + 33.6% Egyptian" "3.3155"
[18,] "3.2% Sandawe + 96.8% Syrian" "3.3513"
[19,] "85% Lebanese_Muslim + 15% Moroccan_South" "3.3579"
[20,] "2.6% Anuak_Ethiopia + 97.4% Syrian" "3.3962"
[21,] "2.6% Sudanese + 97.4% Syrian" "3.3968"
[22,] "34% Bedouin + 66% Lebanese_Muslim" "3.4292"
[23,] "2.9% Maasai + 97.1% Syrian" "3.435"
[24,] "2.4% Gumuz_Ethiopia + 97.6% Syrian" "3.4384"
[25,] "2.5% Hadza + 97.5% Syrian" "3.4662"

I also thought it looks a little weird, and I asked him if they realy are palestinians, or they just born there and have like love for it so they call them selfs that, but he said as far as he knows there palestinians, and am not that good on middle eastern genetics and hoped some one here can help

**MandM** · 03-12-2022, 06:27 PM

Eurogenes K13 updated Smaller Regions

Target: Milenko
Distance: 2.7227% / 2.72266374 | ADC: 0.25x RC
35.5 Vlach_Serbia
34.2 Montenegro_SouthEast
25.1 Bulgarian_Southeastern
2.9 Tatar_Crimea
2.3 Sardinian