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    Quote Originally Posted by Tongio View Post
    Hard to say If Neanderthals were brachy or dolicho when these are terms that refer to modern human heads. Neanderthals heads were wide and eggshaped when looked from above ,they also had long heads but their proportions were diferent and theyr faces ocupied bigger part of the cranium then ours. So definitly not similar to brachy and definitly not dolicho in some defining aspects(narrowness all the way).Meso ? Kinda of but not really because like i said they had quite diferent proportions.
    Their heads were much longer than wider hence they were dolichocephalic. Neanderthal brains were bigger that of Homo Sapiens specimens.

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    Probably. But not because of genetic changes, because of testosterone changes. People who are lower T develop narrower heads

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fortnite777 View Post
    Probably. But not because of genetic changes, because of testosterone changes. People who are lower T develop narrower heads
    LOL Bro science at its best,where did you take that idea from? Are you trying to make up for a narrow something else?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tongio View Post
    LOL Bro science at its best,where did you take that idea from? Are you trying to make up for a narrow something else?
    i'm brachycephalic and by the latest blood tests i don't have some outstanding (still not low or below normal) testosterone, none of ethnic groups will change this trait in 1-2 generations coz of "low testosterone". None of historical none-brachycephalic ethnic groups were massively low in testosterone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Civis Caeli View Post
    i'm brachycephalic and by the latest blood tests i don't have some outstanding (still not low or below normal) testosterone, none of ethnic groups will change this trait in 1-2 generations coz of "low testosterone". None of historical none-brachycephalic ethnic groups were massively low in testosterone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Civis Caeli View Post
    i'm brachycephalic and by the latest blood tests i don't have some outstanding (still not low or below normal) testosterone, none of ethnic groups will change this trait in 1-2 generations coz of "low testosterone". None of historical none-brachycephalic ethnic groups were massively low in testosterone.
    Do we know though exact testosterone levels in serum of those historical groups? We don't.

    Your hormone levels are clearly appropriate if you can grow a beard like this! Albeit there are more factors that influence that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roy View Post
    Do we know though exact testosterone levels in serum of those historical groups? We don't.

    Your hormone levels are clearly appropriate if you can grow a beard like this! Albeit there are more factors that influence that.
    Symmetric mesocephalic master race.
    I have fullbeard and lots of chest hair since last grade of school, but I never looked like an ogre/testosterone barrel, more on the "noble" side. There are plenty of tall, masculine, hairless people and short, fragile, bearded ones.
    There is no dependency (or very indirect one).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tongio View Post
    Neither brachy nor dolicho can be pinpointed as one being archaic and the other not, that s a stinky bullshit ,BOTH are modern human skullshapes present among members of same race(europoids) and even same family(as diferent head shapes among brothers) none seem to be going extinct before the other for god sake.
    Cephalix index is only a relation between length and breath, basically it means someone with a head breath of 130 and head length of 185, has the same cephalic index like a person with a head breath of 150 mm and 213 head length, but the 2nd guy has a much larger head as the the first. At one point its obvious- the broader the skull the longer it has to be, to be doli/mesocephalic, so even a protruding skull does not necessary mean dolicephaly/mesocephaly at all.

    the Bavarian Ofnet Cave seem to be one of the first brachycephalic heads in the Mesolithic but they had not only brachy skulls anyway. it seems there was a trend for higher and rounder skulls, and partially length reduction
    https://www.researchgate.net/profile...ll-P3_Q320.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by KirillMazur View Post
    Symmetric mesocephalic master race.
    I have fullbeard and lots of chest hair since last grade of school, but I never looked like an ogre/testosterone barrel, more on the "noble" side. There are plenty of tall, masculine, hairless people and short, fragile, bearded ones.
    There is no dependency (or very indirect one).
    Yea, you know those Arabs, Caucasians with huge belly, tits and almost female bottom, who are heavily hairy at the same time. No testosterone 100 km around them.

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    If it's a dominant trait ,it doesn't make sense that it would "die out" in a matter of generations ,even if there was to exist selection.So either it doesn't really happen or rather maybe a lot of the brachycephaly of the previous generations was related to their stunted growth and not having reached full genetic potential.

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