As a whole, do the British look more similar to Portuguese or Ukrainians?

[solarisregvm]

I mean, it's obviously obvious



Just kidding. The guy is not even portuguese. But this is though,




Now Seriously,

imo both and neither at the same time.

If we talk about the majority of brunette and more old inhabitants of the british isles coming from Iberia they have similarities even with brunette Portuguese phenotypes:

i.e.





or many other examples of similarities of average portuguese / british:











* I think the above video is not available in other countries so I'll share this from the same band:













English/British:



The Cure:



The Charlatans:



Manic Street Preachers:



Supergrass:



The Verve:



Oasis:




For those tainted after the viking invasion and trade between the North Sea they must have more similarities with Ukranians but I let that part to the 'British are Blondz 'n' Shieeet" users.

As you can see at least there's more to it than nordcucks pretend it to be and iberian side of the british isles fuckin' rock in the islands.

* I voted the 3rd option.

[XenophobicPrussian]

Germanic admixture is not very Western-shifted.

A pure-blooded Germanic person is more Eastern-shifted than Celtic-admixed Germans/British.





West-East cline on a map:



Source:

https://www.discovermagazine.com/the...so-homogeneous

lol no. It's true Germanics aren't the best representation of NW Europeans, that'd be Irish, but they're still NW Europeans, and closer to Irish than any eastern Europeans. East Germans may be closer to Slavs though.





It's true Germanic can be modeled as basically something like Irish+Baltic, but Germanic has still been seperated from Balto-Slavic from since the Bell Beaker/CW split thousands of years ago, and split off with Insular British much later, so they are definitely closer to Insular Celts.

[Sasaolo68]

I mean, it's obviously obvious



Just kidding. The guy is not even portuguese. But this is though,




Now Seriously,

imo both and neither at the same time.

If we talk about the majority of brunette and more old inhabitants of the british isles coming from Iberia they have similarities even with brunette Portuguese phenotypes:

i.e.





or many other examples of similarities of average portuguese / british:





















English/British:



The Cure:



The Charlatans:



Manic Street Preachers:



Supergrass:



The Verve:



Oasis:




For those tainted after the viking invasion and trade between the North Sea they must have more similarities with Ukranians but I let that part to the 'British are Blondz 'n' Shieeet" users.

As you can see at least there's more to it than nordcucks pretend it to be and iberian side of the british isles fuckin' rock in the islands.

* I voted the 3rd option.

Noel Gallagher and John Lennon could definitely pass as Portuguese imo. The other guys on their bands not so much.

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[Sasaolo68]

I mean, it's obviously obvious



Just kidding. The guy is not even portuguese. But this is though,




Now Seriously,

imo both and neither at the same time.

If we talk about the majority of brunette and more old inhabitants of the british isles coming from Iberia they have similarities even with brunette Portuguese phenotypes:

i.e.





or many other examples of similarities of average portuguese / british:





















English/British:



The Cure:



The Charlatans:



Manic Street Preachers:



Supergrass:



The Verve:



Oasis:




For those tainted after the viking invasion and trade between the North Sea they must have more similarities with Ukranians but I let that part to the 'British are Blondz 'n' Shieeet" users.

As you can see at least there's more to it than nordcucks pretend it to be and iberian side of the british isles fuckin' rock in the islands.

* I voted the 3rd option.

Double.

[Tooting Carmen]

Why do you post black people passing them as Portuguese?
Just curious.

He did with the British too, if you look again.

[solarisregvm]

Noel Gallagher and John Lennon could definitely pass as Portuguese imo. The other guys on their bands not so much.

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Supergrass and Oasis (* but more even the other members than the Gallagher brothers) def. could pass in Portugal and some isolated members in other bands.
That's why I wrote yes and no at the same time.
There's similarities but also differences. Like the Portuguese ones could pass in the British Isles but there would be similarities and differences. Afterall they're not in the same region.

[Russki]

lol no. It's true Germanics aren't the best representation of NW Europeans, that'd be Irish, but they're still NW Europeans, and closer to Irish than any eastern Europeans. East Germans may be closer to Slavs though.

This graph is ancient and there are several fuck ups:

1. Slovaks should be more like their neighbors, not near Italians;

2. Poles and Ukrainians are closer to each other than any of them to Central-Northern Russians;

3. Finns are not intermediate between Latvians and Swedes

It's true Germanic can be modeled as basically something like Irish+Baltic, but Germanic has still been seperated from Balto-Slavic from since the Bell Beaker/CW split thousands of years ago, and split off with Insular British much later, so they are definitely closer to Insular Celts.

Yes, it's true. Scandinavians are like Insular Celts with an Eastern shift.

The most Western-shifted people are Basque.

[Tooting Carmen]

@solaris: Doubtless what you said was in part a joke, but still if we could argue that the substantial number of blondish Brits is due to being 'tainted' by Vikings, Saxons and Danes, then couldn't we argue that the substantial number of raven-haired and olive-skinned Portuguese is due to being 'tainted' by Moors? For that matter, a lot of Ukrainians look part-Asian (or Tatar) too.

[solarisregvm]

@solaris: Doubtless what you said was in part a joke, but still if we could argue that the substantial number of blondish Brits is due to being 'tainted' by Vikings, Saxons and Danes, then couldn't we argue that the substantial number of raven-haired and olive-skinned Portuguese is due to being 'tainted' by Moors? For that matter, a lot of Ukrainians look part-Asian (or Tatar) too.

The word "tainted" wasn't in a depreciative way. I'm also "tainted".
It was just that it substituted the inhabitants of the british isles in a big manner.

Yes and no, the difference is that north-african populations before the full islamization were more similar to their european mediterranean counterparts. In the north-african genepool you'll find as well iberian, italian or other europeans that came from the roman and goths time when that region was governed by europeans and existed amicable trade networks connecting both people (Also from european muslims in the time of Reconquista). North-african with the islamization distanced from the mediterranean europe because of islam/christianity divide and more negroid and middle east genes entered in the region than previously happening the opposite with the european genes. In the time of the al-andalus berber people were not so much influenced like nowadays are by negroid and * middle-Eastern admixtures. Iberian people and berber people at the time had also similarities but also differences like i.e. the portuguese and the british.

The difference in phenotypes between the inhabitants of the british isles before / after the viking invasion was more clear than the Iberian / N. Africa.
And don't think that the majority of iberians are NA type-like because they aren't. They exist but are far from being the norm.

Also, it's wrong to assume the composition of a people by the simple colour of eyes and hair. Anthropologically, what even has more importance are the craneal features, nose, mouth, eye shape than the simple pigmentation. So, you can't differenciate south europeans and NA by the pigmentation or hair colour because there are similarities between all mediterraneans, but by their cranial features in which one can see if they are european or NA.

And in that the difference between iberians and NA go a long way. ofc there are exceptions like iberian looking moroccans or algerians or the opposite way but they aren't the norm.

[mitalit]

Why do you post black people passing them as Portuguese?
Just curious.

The photos with the black people are from Rio De Janeiro, Brazil.

Caminhos Language Centre: Rio de Janeiro - Learn Portuguese in Brazil

https://www.studyabroad101.com/progr...uese-in-brazil

and this is a stock photo, from Baruta - Caracas, Venezuela

called "multi-ethnic young students on the exchange university campus"
https://www.istockphoto.com/es/portf...graphy&page=10

Spoiler!

https://caminhoslanguages.com/wp-con...S-BROCHURE.pdf

Portuguese:


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It is not like it changes anything, but the girls of the first photo of Portugal are spaniards