Should Ukraine Russia and Belarus be one country

**Annihilus** · 03-19-2022, 02:10 AM

Joining? Russia needs to be cut up.

**Sandis** · 03-19-2022, 10:39 AM

Originally Posted by Annihilus

Joining? Russia needs to be cut up.

Exactly. One example:

Putin said that people from Crimea and Donbas have a right to choose, but noone asked the minorities of Russia.
So many people suffer, but empires are not eternal.
Roman Empire, Mongol Empire, British Empire once were very strong.

**Dušan** · 03-19-2022, 10:48 AM

Originally Posted by Nurzat

most definitely, they belong together and they will unite again

I agree.

**Russki** · 03-19-2022, 10:50 AM

No.

Especially not Ukraine.

**Jana** · 03-19-2022, 10:52 AM

Wow, Indian troll was banned, wonderful!!! <3 <3 <3
he will try to return for sure though, such a boring pest

**Sandis** · 03-19-2022, 11:09 AM

Originally Posted by Stearsolina

Wow, Indian troll was banned, wonderful!!! <3 <3 <3
he will try to return for sure though, such a boring pest

You mean Satem? I think that he was one of the most reasonable and polite member of this forum.
Wherever he is, he made the right choice. I doubt that he will return.

**~~Sandman~~** · 03-19-2022, 11:13 AM

Originally Posted by Borealis

These were all part of Kievan Rus and Russia now lacks fertile land. Kiev was historically a Russian city

Kyiv has never been the capital of Russia. Kyiv was founded at a time when nobody heard about Russia.

**Jana** · 03-19-2022, 11:16 AM

Originally Posted by Sandis

You mean Satem? I think that he was one of the most reasonable and polite member of this forum.
Wherever he is, he made the right choice. I doubt that he will return.

Nah, I meant Corporate_Demolisher and Chocolate_Hound

they were socks of Borealis.

**~~Zohor~~** · 03-19-2022, 11:19 AM

Current behavior and values are far more important than any kind of shared heritage.

If they don't share many values now what is the sense of unification? They would be neverending arguing like in Yugoslavia after Tito

Also Ukrainians are different from Russians or Belarusians. They are more energetic and passionate, vast majority of them don’t have imperial ambitions and they aim to build their own prosperous country. What is more, they do not worship a president and they are able to be very critical to the government(Orange revolution, Maidan).

Majority of Ukraine wants to be a part of Western civilization without trying to get rid of their Eastern culture, of course they know they have much in common with Russia by same heritage but with such differences in this moment and the closest future they shouldn't be one country. You won't change mentality of people in a moment, it takes decades so the compatibility of mentality and values won't happen soon.

**Peterski** · 03-19-2022, 11:45 AM

Originally Posted by Zohor

Current behavior and values are far more important than any kind of shared heritage.

If they don't share many values now what is the sense of unification? They would be neverending arguing like in Yugoslavia after Tito

Also Ukrainians are different from Russians or Belarusians. They are more energetic and passionate, vast majority of them don’t have imperial ambitions and they aim to build their own prosperous country. What is more, they do not worship a president and they are able to be very critical to the government(Orange revolution, Maidan).

Majority of Ukraine wants to be a part of Western civilization without trying to get rid of their Eastern culture, of course they know they have much in common with Russia by same heritage but with such differences in this moment and the closest future they shouldn't be one country. You won't change mentality of people in a moment, it takes decades so the compatibility of mentality and values won't happen soon.

^^^ Check the link in my signature.

I agree with this Ukrainian article.

We should sign the Treaty of Hadiach 3.0 (as 1.0 was in 1658 and 2.0 was in 1831):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Hadiach