Italy vs Spain... which country/culture do you prefer?

[Arianit]

I prefer the culture of Italy. They have a longer history of respectable institutions and as a result - the people are respectable and modest too - without the cold-heartedness of North-(Western) Europeans.

[renaissance12]

I prefer the culture of Italy. They have a longer history of respectable institutions and as a result - the people are respectable and modest too - without the cold-heartedness of North-(Western) Europeans.

80% of the European culture is "Italian"...

[Arianit]

80% of the European culture is "Italian"...

I don't know how you got that number or the criteria of a cultural tradition being Italian - but it seems far fetched.

[Cristiano viejo]

Why you still bring into discussion my country lmao?

Still do you ask it?

Yes, Italy is superior than my country in everything, including Spain. My mother tongue originate in Italy, including yours, the alphabet in which I write originate in Italy, so yes Italy win here.

No, not than Spain, talk only for your mediocre and irrelevant country, dear

And my tongue did not originate in Italy. My tongue originated/developed in current Spain, and it is absolutely unintelligible with Latin.

Greece was influential only in Ancient times, Italy always was influential since Ancient times till present, and many of Ancient Greece ideas survived especially in Italy and were developed further. I see Italy influence all other Europe, regardless of religious confession or geographic location.

Till present?? hahaha

Baroque is very much less valid than the renaissance, the first is the symbol of the moral corruption and excessive glitz, the second rapresented noble values and the continuation of a entrepreneurial mind, let alone your thought about gay-art who just show us you have unsolved complexes, like our old friend paleoretard..

Absolutely all the contrary. Renaissance was a hole of homosexual artists that created homosexual and degenerated art. Starting by Da Vinci, Miguel Ángel, Botticelli or Caravaggio, its main figures, many of that promoted by the Medicis. Florencia, the craddle of the Rnaissance, at that time was the most sodomite center of Europe.

So much that the reputation of the citizens of Tuscany was so affected that the city of Genoa had a law that prevented the hiring of professors from that region for fear of endangering the sexuality of the students.

So much that when Germans wanted to say sodomite they said "Florenzer" (Florentine). Even a Toscan priest, Bernardino de Siena, expressed so about the sodomy of Italians

O Italia, provincia del altra del che del più del contaminata del SE del ne del quanto '! ¡Virginia ' un tedeschi, vanto e ' danno del bello del che de la oda de e un ' Taliani! De Dicono del che mondo del al del generazione del è no, che Italiani del sodomitti del maggiori del sieno del che.

So much that in 1432 a commission called "the Night Office" was created in Florencia to search for and investigate accusations of sodomy. Boxes were set up so that anonymous accusations could be made. Florencia had at that time 40.000 inhabitants, and the Night Office lasted 70 years. During that time 17.000 men were implicated. Assuming that there could be 20.000 males in Florencia, and that 70 years means three full generations, 17.000 is almost half the males in Florencia during that time The Florentines in general accepted sodomy as a misdemeanor and not as a crime, and understood that it was punishable just with a fine.

So much that nowadays the Renacentist Florence is compared with San Francisco, California as the gay paradise. So much that the first gay rebellion happened there in 1512, when I Compagnazzi, a group of 30 homosexual Florentine aristocrats, assaulted the Palazzo della Signoria to protest against the anti-gay laws promoted by the Church.

Only the predicator Girolamo Savonarola fought against the sodomy of Florencia/the Medici... and what did you do with him? burn him in the stake...

So yes, Renaissance was a focus of degeneration and perversion, and its artists a total perverted. Something did not exist in Baroque.

Or that you can sell your tourism much better. Maybe Italy has no need to depend on Tourism even if Italy has been declining economicaly for years now.

Any country "depends" of tourism in higher or lower degree, Italy included of course. Maybe you think tourism is suuuuuuuuper important and ultra vital, and that without tourism Spain is lost Tourism represents the 12% of our GDP. Not that important.

[Nicolaus]

Still do you ask it?


No, not than Spain, talk only for your mediocre and irrelevant country, dear

And my tongue did not originate in Italy. My tongue originated/developed in current Spain, and it is absolutely unintelligible with Latin.


Till present?? hahaha


Absolutely all the contrary. Renaissance was a hole of homosexual artists that created homosexual and degenerated art. Starting by Da Vinci, Miguel Ángel, Botticelli or Caravaggio, its main figures, many of that promoted by the Medicis. Florencia, the craddle of the Rnaissance, at that time was the most sodomite center of Europe.

So much that the reputation of the citizens of Tuscany was so affected that the city of Genoa had a law that prevented the hiring of professors from that region for fear of endangering the sexuality of the students.

So much that when Germans wanted to say sodomite they said "Florenzer" (Florentine). Even a Toscan priest, Bernardino de Siena, expressed so about the sodomy of Italians

O Italia, provincia del altra del che del più del contaminata del SE del ne del quanto '! ¡Virginia ' un tedeschi, vanto e ' danno del bello del che de la oda de e un ' Taliani! De Dicono del che mondo del al del generazione del è no, che Italiani del sodomitti del maggiori del sieno del che.

So much that in 1432 a commission called "the Night Office" was created in Florencia to search for and investigate accusations of sodomy. Boxes were set up so that anonymous accusations could be made. Florencia had at that time 40.000 inhabitants, and the Night Office lasted 70 years. During that time 17.000 men were implicated. Assuming that there could be 20.000 males in Florencia, and that 70 years means three full generations, 17.000 is almost half the males in Florencia during that time The Florentines in general accepted sodomy as a misdemeanor and not as a crime, and understood that it was punishable just with a fine.

So much that nowadays the Renacentist Florence is compared with San Francisco, California as the gay paradise. So much that the first gay rebellion happened there in 1512, when I Compagnazzi, a group of 30 homosexual Florentine aristocrats, assaulted the Palazzo della Signoria to protest against the anti-gay laws promoted by the Church.

Only the predicator Girolamo Savonarola fought against the sodomy of Florencia/the Medici... and what did you do with him? burn him in the stake...

So yes, Renaissance was a focus of degeneration and perversion, and its artists a total perverted. Something did not exist in Baroque.


Any country "depends" of tourism in higher or lower degree, Italy included of course. Maybe you think tourism is suuuuuuuuper important and ultra vital, and that without tourism Spain is lost Tourism represents the 12% of our GDP. Not that important.

Well now you spaniards with all this "homo liberalism" outclassed us big time ahahah so you copied the italians on this too lol

[Cristiano viejo]

Well now you spaniards with all this "homo liberalism" outclassed us big time ahahah so you copied the italians on this too lol

Homo liberalism unfortunately happens everywhere.

[Nicolaus]

Homo liberalism unfortunately happens everywhere.

exactly then but you can't tell italians are sodomites, people used to tell the same thing towards the french

[Cristiano viejo]

exactly then but you can't tell italians are sodomites, people used to tell the same thing towards the french

I did not, learn to read correctly, "viking".

[Nicolaus]

I did not, learn to read correctly, "viking".

sure you did, so are you going to excuse or be a coward?

[Cristiano viejo]

sure you did, so are you going to excuse or be a coward?

Quote the sentence where I did, come on.