How Viking Are You? Genomelink

[VikLevaPatel]

As a Germanic patriot you should be happy that these companies "make everyone Germanic", no ???

"Genomelink," ScienceAlert says, "is just one of a growing number of shady DNA testing startups now operating in the regulatory Wild West of commercial genomics. Tomohiro Takano, the CEO of Genomelink parent company Awakens, readily admits that the results aren't always accurate." Here's Why Many DNA Test Startups Are Basically Scams, Just Like Horoscope Readings

They now have another new category:

Uncover and celebrate your European heritage

They're touting this particular test as "the most detailed analysis of European ancestry."

https://static.genomelink.io/static/...7d459cabe4.pdf

"17 European ethnicities — more detail than ever! Discover your heritage across 17 areas. Learn more about your history and yourself."

Central European Jewish, South Slavic, South Balkan, Northern Europe, Eastern European, Basque, Iberian, British, French, German, Irish, Southern Italy, Roma, Hispanic Jews, Scandinavian, Mediterranean Islander, Tirolean Alpine.

Genomelink- It's a Scam : Genealogy - reddit

Gee, I bet this Chilli Con Khan person doesn't have an agenda. The utmost of reliable sources with no bias whatsoever, I'm sure. Leave Zip Con to it and let him tell us all about Indian and European genetics!

Backed by science

Razib Khan
Razib Khan has degrees in biology and biochemistry from the University of Oregon. He studied genetics at the graduate level at UC Davis. He helped develop ancestry algorithms for Family Tree DNA and National Geographic. He has worked in the personal genomics industry for 8 years.

Take your fake 'Patel' samples and throw them away as well. They are meaningless and useless without reference to caste or sub-caste.

This is the same CON that made Europeans browner in some experiment because he didn't want them to work together!

You Can Understand Your European Ancestry by Razib Khan?
Tell him to take a hike.

https://i.imgflip.com/6c16vq.jpg, https://archive.ph/EJURE/e99a19c5b15...fba34571d6.jpg

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See Also: https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...45#post7475845

"Razib Khan is eternally butthurt at white people. He goes as far as promoting fantasy deviantart reconstructions to convince midwit liberals that indo european steppe pastoralists were acktually pakistanis" https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/threa...250/#348785572

>genetics
>ancestry
pick one

>Razib Khan
>genetics
pick one

https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/threa...309/#209547286

Pity He Just Isn't Into Indian Women Like He Is Into South Asian Genetics!

https://i.imgflip.com/6c1oyc.jpg

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This guy Razib Khan has a Eurlpean wife and mixed children... Hates Europe...

https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/searc...0white%20wife/

Genetic testing's just starting to take off in India, but there's no use worrying when we have these self-proclaimed experts like Zip Chilli Con Khan.

Always be suspicious of non-whites who have a science degree especially from a third world university. They are giving them these degrees based on lowered standards combined with the corruption throughout academia worldwide. And I say this as a non-white from Asia where education is put on a pedestal as the be all, end all solution to every problem no matter how corrupt it is. They still don’t know jack shit compared to whites who got their degrees honestly.

https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/threa...501/#341911064


Genetic research has historically undersampled African, Asian, and Latino populations. An analysis published in March revealed that, as of 2018, only 22% of individuals in genome-wide association studies were of non-European ancestry. Personal genetics is unregulated in India and companies selling tests are exploiting people. Another problem in India is the lack of Indian data. Testing companies have a negligible presence in India and other countries in south Asia, and their datasets have, in the past, offered little information to people with roots in the region. Low participation of south Asians also persists because tests are not easily available in India. 'Initially," says Anu Acharya (AA), "there was a limited understanding of genomics among the Indian population. In the last six years, we have started to see more people become aware of genomics and how they can use it to understand themselves and their health. While the numbers are increasing, there are still people who do not know what genotyping is."

[VikLevaPatel]

Pity He Just Isn't Into Indian Women Like He Is Into South Asian Genetics!

https://i.imgflip.com/6c1oyc.jpg

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What's with all these 'Khans' and their useless admixture calculators

Guess Who's Coming to Dinner: https://i.imgflip.com/6c4fvz.jpg, https://archive.ph/Omxrh/b6308e4cd08...2bd1a1006d.jpg

Low cost, low reliability is what many people would call 'cheap and nasty'; high cost and unreliable would be a 'rip off'.

What is a Genetic App? https://www.geneplaza.com/app-store

10 euros?

K5 Admixture
DILAWER KHAN
RELEASED: 14 SEP, 2020
In contrast to commercial ancestry tests and other Admixture program based calculators, the Eurasia K5 is designed to detect TOTAL DEEPER RELATEDNESS between the test subject and the aforementioned divergent populations than other tests.

K30
DILAWER KHAN
RELEASED: 26 AUG, 2021
The K30 Admixture Calculator determines your genetic similarity to various worldwide populations based on shared allele frequencies.€10 PREVIEW APP

The K35 calculator
DILAWER KHAN
RELEASED: 7 AUG, 2018
Your genetic similarity to ancient bronze and iron age cultures.€8.70 PREVIEW APP

SAPDA
DILAWER KHAN
RELEASED: 1 DEC, 2019
SAPDA is a new ancestry inference software developed by Dilawer Khan. It is unlike any of the other currently available ancestry inference programs.€13.65 PREVIEW APP

https://www.geneplaza.com/

Genomelink- It’s a Scam

My results are brutal. Found out my genes carry traits for low intelligence, educational attainment, and athleticism. I’ve been average to above average in all categories, but it could be environment. Anyway, here’s to hoping the data is unreliable!

https://www.reddit.com/r/Genealogy/c...eb2x&context=3

did you tell them you're a reddit user by any chance?

https://www.reddit.com/r/Genealogy/c...eb2x&context=3

"This site seemes very scammy. The personal summaries for my parents state that my mother has 0% African and my father has 0% African. Yet, mine says I have 6%! How the hell does that work???? And yes! They're definitely my parents (proven by both Ancestry and 23&Me)."
https://www.reddit.com/r/Genealogy/c...eb2x&context=3

"Inherited markers cannot skip a generation. Genetics does not work that way. For it to show up in your genes, it has to be in your parent's DNA first. Phenotype from recessive genes can skip generations, but the genes are still present in your parents."
https://www.reddit.com/r/Genealogy/c...eb2x&context=3

[VikLevaPatel]

"Razib Khan is eternally butthurt at white people. He goes as far as promoting fantasy deviantart reconstructions to convince midwit liberals that indo european steppe pastoralists were acktually pakistanis" https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/threa...250/#348785572

He's also promoting the lie that the Sintashta people were dark and swarthy:

Brown Pundits
The Sintashta were swarthy – Brown Pundits

https://archive.ph/WbLX2#selection-6831.0-6849.10

But in fact the exact opposite is true:

"The study also reveals that the Yamnaya people probably also introduced genes that give people brown eyes and pale skin, as well as the lactose-tolerant mutation." https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...continent.html

Researchers say the Yamnaya people spread their DNA across a vast area from the Urals to Scandinavia and also migrated east to settle in parts of Central Asia before being replaced by eastern Asians around 2,000 years ago.

And as pointed out here:

He has an agenda.

Ancient DNA reveals how Europeans developed light skin and lactose tolerance

Blue eyes could come from hunter gatherers in Mesolithic Europe (10,000 to 5,000 BC), while other characteristics arrived later with newcomers from the East. The DNA of several hunter gatherers living in Europe long before the Bronze Age was also tested. It showed that they probably had a combination of features quite striking to the modern eye: dark skin with blue eyes. The blue eyes of these people – and of the many modern Europeans who have them – are thanks to a specific mutation near a gene called OCA2. As none of the Yamnaya samples have this mutation, it seems likely that modern Europeans owe this trait to their ancestry from these European hunter gatherers of the Mesolithic (10,000-5,000 BC).

Two mutations responsible for light skin, however, tell quite a different story. Both seem to have been rare in the Mesolithic, but present in a large majority by the Bronze Age, both in Europe and the steppe.

Misinformation:

OP is right. Numerous genetic studies (as well as physical anthropology) show the Sintastha/Andronovo were fair skinned with fair hair and eyes (by and large). I don't think this is really in dispute except in the minds of some OIT people.

It makes sense when you understand that Sintashta was an offshoot of Abashevo who was an offshoot of Fatyanovo who was an offshoot of Corded Ware. All of these cultures were located in the heart of Europe.

So, yeah, they were white dudes. (EHG/EEF admixture, just like many Europeans today).

https://teddit.sethforprivacy.com/r/...isinformation/

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Further east along the steppe, the Sintashta culture of the southern Urals most likely invented the chariot.166 There is at the very least a plausible case that these related peoples whose horses, chariots and metallurgy enhanced both ...

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[wvwvw]

I am a Greek Viking, daughter of Poseidon

[Rædwald]

[VikLevaPatel]

A large amount of Viking DNA is mixed from Gaelic Celts, Slavs etc.. My issue is that they took all the data and said right that is it, the Scandinavian Viking, that is the British Viking.

You have to do some weeding. For example comparing the Early Viking Era to the Iron Age before it and going that is a group they are a bit different to the later Viking Era.

I don't trust it when an Irish person scores high Viking.

This is so true that it may be affirmed with the greatest degree of certainty and correctness.

Upon that do not entertain the slightest doubt.

Although, I cannot complain about my Viking score (10 percent).

And I'm not complaining about my East-Slavic (11 percent) score either (Russia K8): https://i.ibb.co/rwmZ1TC/es.png, https://i.ibb.co/Cvw8bRR/sl.png

Speaking of weeding, boy, oh boy. Tell me about it. I'm lucky I haven't suffered a nervous breakdown.

I would have had a mental breakdown if I didn't have the two valuable and limited resources—money and time—for all these genetic tests. Since these tests can easily run into thousands of dollars.

My own costs have amounted to thousands of dollars, perhaps more than fifteen or twenty thousand dollars.

WAS IT WORTH IT? I can honestly say it was worth every penny.

This was especially so in my case, since there is a lot of disinformation and misinformation about the Patel (or Patidar) caste or against particular castes/ races/ ethnic groups.

As this post clearly illustrates:

Originally Posted by MonkeyDLuffy: "Kush is Reddy and tipirneni is Kamma from same region. They score like Patels, high Iran N and AASI, and almost close to none steppe."

It is primarily a grossly misleading claim that the Patels score "high AASI, and almost close to none steppe".

And that is what happens when you rely or depend on outdated, incomplete, inaccurate, inconsistent or misleading information on Gedmatch.

It's the exact opposite.

The genetic tests don't lie, and the test results prove otherwise.

TRUTH AND DIVISIVE ERROR ARE TOTALLY OPPOSED. Error may borrow elements of truth and distort them, but it still has no common ground with truth.

Reposted here: https://defenceforumindia.com/thread...8#post-2266131

This cannot be emphasized enough:

Disinformation or fake news can do serious harm not only to individuals but also to the social fabric, politics and national security.

[VikLevaPatel]

Would you recommend genomelink? (I'm not sure if I should do it since it's paid).

Yes or No?

I wish I could give you a straight answer.

And I wish we could have more straight answers.

But there is no straight answer to this one.

Though I truly believe there is perfection in everything and everything has purpose.

There are no straight lines in the universe either. Such that great circles are the shortest distance between two points. Time is a great cycle; the arch of the sky is the type and symbol of all things unseen.

Moreover, there are no straight answers about the truth—only many, many wonderful questions. Indeed, often there is no one “right” answer, only many "better" or "worse" answers.

Apparently, there's no free lunch anywhere. Get used to it. No system provides something for nothing.

As a rule of thumb anything with a prefix 'free', isn't: free market, free association, free lunches, free speech.

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And speaking of free lunch, GEDmatch can take a long hike, into oblivion, and can finally fade into oblivion for good.



But I can tell you this much:

Proceed With CAUTION.

And you must be sure about what you are looking for.

Otherwise, you are apt to be in for some nasty surprises.

Like, for instance, fake results showing you are falsely around 5% African when accurate results across the board tell you you're 0% African or at most less than 1 percent.

A surprisingly high and unrealistic score for African and more especially "West African" can throw up all sorts of red flags for our brains.

Or going so far as to claim that all of India is "Dravidian".

Their maps showed exactly that!

But in my case, I was only interested primarily in the Steppe category and secondarily in the other two major components, Hunter-gatherer and First Farmer.

The results were excellent and are fairly similar and fairly comparable across the board.

They use the terms 'Yamnaya' and 'Steppe pastoralists' interchangeably.

Thus, they can be compared with results from GenePlaza and also from different Genoplot admixes.

I would totally recommend them on that basis alone, though.

[VikLevaPatel]

Dna stuff is a big business now it seems

Second only to Porn, so I've been reading and seeing.

Genealogy Became Almost as Popular as Porn - TIME
Our Obsession with Ancestry Has Some Twisted Roots
Roots of genealogy craze: Column - USA Today
The Christmas present that could tear your family apart - BBC
Why we can't get enough of charting our bloodlines - SBS
The Family Business: DNA Ancestry Tests and White Identity

Today, genealogy ranks second only to porn as the most searched topic online. According to a January 2012 report by market research firm Global Industry Analysts, an estimated 84 million people around the world spend anywhere from $1,000 to ......

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Motherhood and Choice: Uncommon Mothers, Childfree Women: https://www.google.com/books/edition...sec=frontcover

And just for the record:

Money Makes the Porn Go Round:
The International Political Economy of the Industry The pornography industry — or ... These figures make the pornography and sex industry in Australia second only to its tourism and pine products.

https://www.google.com/books/edition...sec=frontcover

[VikLevaPatel]

There is a sucker born every minute. I'm not paying for that crap. Americans are obsessed with being Irish and Viking but not me I'm not sucker chump !

This is great for Ireland. I don't think our family's friend and colleague, Mister O'Brien, Ireland's richest man, would mind.

Oh, God, yes, Americans are absolutely obsessed with ancestry. There can be no doubt of it. But I do recall reading that Anglo-Americans or White Americans are primarily a mix of Irish and Germans, followed by Scandinavians and other European ethnicities. And it's good to see that the connection between the U.S. and Ireland has remained strong. It was equally heartening to see Congress designating March as Irish-American Heritage Month in 1991. Ireland’s soft-power triumph is mainly testament to the continued enthusiasm of tens of millions of Irish-Americans for their roots and to their equally remarkable dominance of American politics. Par for the course, the Irish-Americans continue their dominance.

This poses a key question: But is this obsession or intense attachment justified? I can confirm that this obsession is indeed fully justified. I would go so far as to say that my own all-encompassing obsession with ancestry and genealogy has reached levels many psychologists would find worthy of study.

The results presented in this study both provide a very interesting picture and provide useful information for further fundamental studies (Keeter, The Family Business: DNA Ancestry Tests and White Identity, 2021, pp. 50–51):

The first way DNA ancestry test companies present the narrative of genealogical disorientation is through the reproduction of testimonial from customers who experienced surprise as part of their test process. Customers may experience surprise for a variety of factors, and while commonly the surprise testimonials dealt with newly discovered relatives, some described newly discovered ethnicities. A testimonial from Family Tree DNA reads, “Juliet grew up not knowing anything about her heritage. All she really knew was that she was Caucasian.” White identity here is presented as a placeholder, or a temporary identity used by people who just don’t know their specific ancestry yet. This DNA ancestry test replaced the basic identity of Caucasian with the truer identity of an ancestral nationality, in this case the testimonial mentioned both Greek and Scandinavian ethnicity were uncovered for the customer Juliet. Testimonials like this presented in advertising offer a transformation to white customers, a chance to move through genealogical disorientation and emerge on the other side of it with a unique personal family narrative rather than being part of a narrative about race, hierarchy, and white privilege.

(Bold, underlined, and italicized emphasis mine.)

It's funny how people take G25, in general, here, so seriously when it was made by an amateur blogger but they don't take MyTrueAncestry seriously. Personally, I won't do it because it is like a death by a thousand cuts paying for all these DNA tests even if individually they are inexpensive it adds up.

I think those are all very valid points, 007. Why don't they just use the Genoplot admixes and GenePlaza genetic apps to add a final harmonious touch, along with MyTrueAncestry.

Just make sure the results stack up against each other. Otherwise, deception will occur.

Here's a good question about DNA apps: Can you learn about your DNA one app at a time?

Bronze Age DNA Test Report – Beginner and Advanced
These reports tell which ancient culture from the Bronze Age the user is most similar to. The Advanced version is a high-resolution DNA test and calculates the proportion of 10 ancient gene pools, while the beginner version is a low-resolution DNA test and calculates the proportion of 6 ancient gene pools. Both reports are presented similarly, as can be seen below.

https://archive.ph/Vh6C5#selection-615.0-619.367

The apps do not provide one comprehensive report, but are instead comprised of various trait-level tests.

Bronze Age DNA Test – Advance: a high-resolution DNA test, which calculates the proportion of 10 ancient gene pools.
Bronze Age DNA Test – Beginner: a low-resolution DNA test, which calculates the proportion of 6 ancient gene pools.

https://archive.ph/GmlVV#selection-1301.0-1313.83

DNA sites you can upload raw DNA data to get additional analysis: https://archive.ph/mr1zZ

Get “More” free analysis?

The word "free" should actually be placed in or within inverted commas.

There Can't Be a Free Lunch.

Because there is “no free lunch,” we must sacrifice something we value in order to get something else. This sacrifice is the cost we pay for a good or service.

As any economist would point out, though, nothing ever comes at no cost whatsoever. This is precisely what economists mean when they joke that there is “no such thing as a free lunch.” But to fail to understand the cost of lunch—the trade-off—is to leave ourselves susceptible to the worst kind of applied economics.

[VikLevaPatel]

I have to swallow my own vomit on this one. It turns out I did purchase an app developed by this Khan on the GenePlaza app store. This one, actually.

This particular app also states that "Eurasians, whether Europeans or Asians, are genetically very similar to each other, with genetic similarities far outweighing any differences they have. Most Eurasians have descended from a few thousand individuals who roamed Eurasia during the Upper Paleolithic and thus share a huge amount of DNA. Thus an admixture inference program needs to determine which mutations are shared due to distant common origins and which ones due to more recent introgression."

Here are my scores:

Deep Ancestral
WEST EURASIAN 65.4%
EAST EURASIAN 19.55%
SIBERIAN - AMERICAN 12%
EAST AFRICAN 1.4%
WEST AFRICAN 1.5%

Ancestral
WEST EURASIAN 55.6%
EAST EURASIAN 28.7%
SIBERIAN - AMERICAN 15.7%
EAST AFRICAN 0%
WEST AFRICAN 0%


From what I can see, the East Eurasian Deep Ancestral Score, hovering somewhere around the 20% mark, matches with both the East Eurasian and Ancestral South Eurasian scores on Genoplot.

SAPDA
DILAWER KHAN
RELEASED: 1 DEC, 2019
SAPDA is a new ancestry inference software developed by Dilawer Khan. It is unlike any of the other currently available ancestry inference programs.

Interesting choice of words. But let's be very clear on one thing: I am not against any race or religion. Actually, far from it. Far, far from it. But almost worse than the ignoramus is the self-styled expert. And saying so only proves my original point.

And in any case, I do highly recommend both Genomelink and GenePlaza. But just be sure that you know what you are looking for. In my case, I was specifically looking for steppe components and found them there.

Price range is another important factor.

But no matter what, the app's gonna cost you.

Pricing is almost always dependent on product and market, and I am sure that is the case here.

Looks to me like the price range on the GenePlaza website definitely depends on the stock and on the quality of the stock.

Here are their prices and the ranges. And the price range is fairly wide.

Intelligence App €6
Ancestry €6.20
Ethnicity Calculator €7.19
K29 Admixture Calculator €7.70
The K35 calculator €8.70
K5 Admixture €9
K30 €10
SAPDA €13.65
Bronze Age DNA Test - Beginner €20
Bronze Age DNA Test - Advance €38

But... To go back to my original point: self-styled scientific experts are expert at junk science and relentless propaganda, and nothing more.



Self-styled experts appear to be spokesmen of certitudes.

There is something very wrong if they don't piss you off.

Especially, it is more so when the Indian population itself is largely unaware of the ever increasing "varieties and complexities" of ethnolinguistic groups and social castes.

Take these comments as an example:

Patel is a Gujarati name and you need to talk to them about it, I don't know much about them.

https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/searc...jarati%20name/

>Quite Rich
I'm guessing patel but you can't be sure about Patels. Some are ugly af like pic related and some can be really really beautiful. They are mostly involved in buisness, a total separate identity. I think anyone who owned land in ancient west india became a Patel. The patel comes from the word "Patidar" which means land owner.

>some can be really really beautiful
Like pic related
Patels confuse me so i don't consider them a homogeneous group. Jist bunch of land owners.

http://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread...079/#151874513

Or take this article from the Times of India about caste and domination. Its author will most certainly remember, and REMEMBER vividly, the day he learned about "caste". He also had an epiphany, if you will, about the political caste system. It was actually during his shift to Ahmedabad that he had an epiphany. He describes his experiences as:

Those days, though a “Shah”, I had still not become fully caste conscious. The family to which I belong, broadly Gandhian in belief, had rarely talked about our caste or sub-caste. What struck me when I shifted to Ahmedabad from Delhi in 1993, however, was, every time I met a Gujarati brethren whom I didn’t know, I was asked a specific question: “Shah etle keva?” or what type of Shah I was. Initially I didn’t understand the question, hence I would smile to get away from an answer. As time passed, I came to know what I should be telling those who ask this question – that I wasn’t a Jain Shah but a Hindu Shah. Later I found that people were interested in a further classification – what type of Hindu Bania (Vania in Gujarati) I was, whether I was a Machkania Vania, a a community to which, I came to know much later, my mother belonged, or a Khadayta Vania, about which my father used to talk somewhat during his later days of his life. There are perhaps other classifications, too, but I have still not been able to understand the nuances.

So that experience was a big deal. And it was really that experience that turned him around. Thats what turned him into a caste-conscious person.

We can have one experience that can change our whole lives. One second can change everything. One sentence can change your life.

This comment just about says it all.

>>225715868
Check HG of modern day brahmins. Rest are mixed or dalits/dravidians

>>225716232
"sample": "Brahmin_Jammu:Average",
"fit": 2.8049,
"Irula": 44.17,
"IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA1": 20,
"RUS_Krasnoyarsk_MLBA": 20,
"TJK_Sarazm_En": 15.83

"sample": "Brahmin_Uttar_Pradesh:Average",
"fit": 3.1931,
"Irula": 55.83,
"TJK_Sarazm_En": 19.17,
"RUS_Krasnoyarsk_MLBA": 17.5,
"IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA1": 7.5

About 50% Irula.

>>225717032
Interesting. I wish there were more studies done on Indian genetics. There's very little research out there.

https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/threa...918/#225717291

He got that absolutely right. Essentially, little research has been done on South Asian populations. And as very little research has been done in this area, it's very premature to make generalizations and conclusions.