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    New Dodecad results for Azerbaijanis. The first batch is from agjabedi (a district of Azerbaijan located in the center)

    agcabedi1013,24.47,1.63,0,2.05,4.73,5.02,3.58,0.72 ,11.24,1.81,43.04,1.71
    agcabedi1054,23.17,3.25,0,0,9.14,7.48,0.28,0,15.16 ,2.12,39.13,0.25
    agcabedi1039,22.2,2.96,0,1.52,9.72,6.98,0,1.19,12. 35,2.68,40.16,0.24
    agcabedi1037,21.48,1.1,2.58,0,6.33,8.1,2.58,0,10.8 4,6,40.8,0.19
    agcabedi1012,22.13,2.25,1.51,0.58,6.2,8.26,0.43,0. 64,11.23,7.07,39.7,0
    agcabedi1018,20.46,0,2.53,0,8.67,9.1,3.44,0,10.79, 3.76,41.24,0
    agcabedi1017,22.32,0,0.44,4.14,8.52,8.5,2.25,0,14. 24,3.17,36.4,0
    agcabedi1010,23.94,1.77, 0.44, 0,7.8,8.13,1,0,14.19,3.82,38.64,0.25
    agcabedi1058,23.42,0,1.36,0,9.89,7.77,3.68,0.48,12 .48,4.2,36.45,0.26
    azerbaijani13_1m Azerbaijani-agcabedi,19.94,2.26,2.47,1.89,8.21,9.41,0.92,0,10. 02,4.27,40.62,0

    Agjabedi_average,22.353,1.522,1.133,1.018,7.921,7. 875,1.816,0.303,12.254,3.89,39.618,0.29


    Second batch is from derbend_dagestan


    dagestan_derbend-0853,24.35,0.46,0,0.77,8.53,19.41,1.49,0,6.52,1.58 ,36.5,0.39
    dagestan_derbend-0860,20.22,1.7,0,3.59,7.3,13.83,0, 0,9.87,0.19,43.31,0
    dagestan_derbend-0864,20.58,2.09,1.06,4.18,6.66,15.28,1.16,0.41,8.4 4,0.29,39.84,0
    dagestan_derbend-0865,23.83,0.49,0,0,12.1,8.66,3.48,0.59,10.33,3.37 ,37.11,0
    dagestan_derbend-0866,21.84,1.35,0,2.67, 9.44, 14.84,1.03,0.59,9.14,0.93, 38.17,0
    dagestan_derbend-0868,22.98,3.13,1.92,0.78,8.81,11.99,0.78,0,7.13,3 .5,38.04,0.95
    dagestan_derbend-0869,24.82,1.53,0.23,0,2.92,15.31,0.99,0,7.85,4.06 ,42.29,0
    dagestan_derbend-0870,23.59,2.12,0.09,1.49,7.42,10.25,1.32,0,10.65, 3.49,39.59,0


    Derbend_average,22.77625,1.60875,0.4125,1.685,7.89 75,13.69625,1.28125,0.19875,8.74125,2.17625,39.356 25,0.1675

    I have attached the closest populations for each average. It is interesting that the closest population for Derbend_Average is Tat_Azerbaijanis excluding Dagestan_AzerbaijanisScreenshot 2022-07-28 060958.jpg Screenshot 2022-07-28 060900.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by turan4 View Post
    New Dodecad results for Azerbaijanis. The first batch is from agjabedi (a district of Azerbaijan located in the center)
    Agjabedi_average,22.353,1.522,1.133,1.018,7.921,7. 875,1.816,0.303,12.254,3.89,39.618,0.29

    Derbend_average,22.77625,1.60875,0.4125,1.685,7.89 75,13.69625,1.28125,0.19875,8.74125,2.17625,39.356 25,0.1675

    I have attached the closest populations for each average. It is interesting that the closest population for Derbend_Average is Tat_Azerbaijanis excluding Dagestan_AzerbaijanisScreenshot 2022-07-28 060958.jpg Screenshot 2022-07-28 060900.jpg
    I think these results are from an academic study that has already been posted here. Dagestani numbers went into updating Dagestani Azeri average.
    As for proximity, it is not surprising. Tats live in the north and mixed with the Dagestani people, just as Azerbaijanis have done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by turan4 View Post
    New Dodecad results for Azerbaijanis. The first batch is from agjabedi (a district of Azerbaijan located in the center)

    agcabedi1013,24.47,1.63,0,2.05,4.73,5.02,3.58,0.72 ,11.24,1.81,43.04,1.71
    agcabedi1054,23.17,3.25,0,0,9.14,7.48,0.28,0,15.16 ,2.12,39.13,0.25
    agcabedi1039,22.2,2.96,0,1.52,9.72,6.98,0,1.19,12. 35,2.68,40.16,0.24
    agcabedi1037,21.48,1.1,2.58,0,6.33,8.1,2.58,0,10.8 4,6,40.8,0.19
    agcabedi1012,22.13,2.25,1.51,0.58,6.2,8.26,0.43,0. 64,11.23,7.07,39.7,0
    agcabedi1018,20.46,0,2.53,0,8.67,9.1,3.44,0,10.79, 3.76,41.24,0
    agcabedi1017,22.32,0,0.44,4.14,8.52,8.5,2.25,0,14. 24,3.17,36.4,0
    agcabedi1010,23.94,1.77, 0.44, 0,7.8,8.13,1,0,14.19,3.82,38.64,0.25
    agcabedi1058,23.42,0,1.36,0,9.89,7.77,3.68,0.48,12 .48,4.2,36.45,0.26
    azerbaijani13_1m Azerbaijani-agcabedi,19.94,2.26,2.47,1.89,8.21,9.41,0.92,0,10. 02,4.27,40.62,0

    Agjabedi_average,22.353,1.522,1.133,1.018,7.921,7. 875,1.816,0.303,12.254,3.89,39.618,0.29


    Second batch is from derbend_dagestan


    dagestan_derbend-0853,24.35,0.46,0,0.77,8.53,19.41,1.49,0,6.52,1.58 ,36.5,0.39
    dagestan_derbend-0860,20.22,1.7,0,3.59,7.3,13.83,0, 0,9.87,0.19,43.31,0
    dagestan_derbend-0864,20.58,2.09,1.06,4.18,6.66,15.28,1.16,0.41,8.4 4,0.29,39.84,0
    dagestan_derbend-0865,23.83,0.49,0,0,12.1,8.66,3.48,0.59,10.33,3.37 ,37.11,0
    dagestan_derbend-0866,21.84,1.35,0,2.67, 9.44, 14.84,1.03,0.59,9.14,0.93, 38.17,0
    dagestan_derbend-0868,22.98,3.13,1.92,0.78,8.81,11.99,0.78,0,7.13,3 .5,38.04,0.95
    dagestan_derbend-0869,24.82,1.53,0.23,0,2.92,15.31,0.99,0,7.85,4.06 ,42.29,0
    dagestan_derbend-0870,23.59,2.12,0.09,1.49,7.42,10.25,1.32,0,10.65, 3.49,39.59,0


    Derbend_average,22.77625,1.60875,0.4125,1.685,7.89 75,13.69625,1.28125,0.19875,8.74125,2.17625,39.356 25,0.1675

    I have attached the closest populations for each average. It is interesting that the closest population for Derbend_Average is Tat_Azerbaijanis excluding Dagestan_AzerbaijanisScreenshot 2022-07-28 060958.jpg Screenshot 2022-07-28 060900.jpg
    Yup they have been already posted, but it's nice to know that the Republic ones are from Aghjabadi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyp View Post
    Yup they have been already posted, but it's nice to know that the Republic ones are from Aghjabadi.
    Something is off here. For example this sample seems to be straight up some kind of Iranic.
    agcabedi1013,24.47,1.63,0,2.05,4.73,5.02,3.58,0.72 ,11.24,1.81,43.04,1.71

    Distance to: agcabedi1013
    4.19702275 Talysh_Azerbaijan
    6.08150475 Zaza/Kurd_Turkey
    6.22299767 Kurd_Feyli
    6.87878623 Iranian_Lur
    6.90029710 Kurd_Kurmanji
    7.12143946 Kurd_Sorani
    7.32721639 Yazidi
    7.40611234 Azerbaijani_Iran
    7.64174718 Azerbaijani_Republic
    8.21295318 Iranian_Central
    8.24764209 Azerbaijani_Turkey
    8.32161042 Turkmen_Iraq
    8.55164312 Udi_Azerbaijan
    9.42779932 Iranian_Zoroastrian
    9.86735020 Iranian_Mazandaran
    9.93851599 Tat_Azerbaijan
    10.02497880 Iranian_Fars
    10.12064721 Turk_East
    10.80850591 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
    11.54210120 Turk_Southeast
    11.83973395 Turk_Ahıska
    12.26408578 Georgian_Kartli-Kakheti
    12.71025177 Azerbaijani_Jew
    12.89775174 Iranian_Kerman
    13.03975076 Armenian_East

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sterling Archer View Post
    Something is off here. For example this sample seems to be straight up some kind of Iranic.
    agcabedi1013,24.47,1.63,0,2.05,4.73,5.02,3.58,0.72 ,11.24,1.81,43.04,1.71

    Distance to: agcabedi1013
    4.19702275 Talysh_Azerbaijan
    6.08150475 Zaza/Kurd_Turkey
    6.22299767 Kurd_Feyli
    6.87878623 Iranian_Lur
    6.90029710 Kurd_Kurmanji
    7.12143946 Kurd_Sorani
    7.32721639 Yazidi
    7.40611234 Azerbaijani_Iran
    7.64174718 Azerbaijani_Republic
    8.21295318 Iranian_Central
    8.24764209 Azerbaijani_Turkey
    8.32161042 Turkmen_Iraq
    8.55164312 Udi_Azerbaijan
    9.42779932 Iranian_Zoroastrian
    9.86735020 Iranian_Mazandaran
    9.93851599 Tat_Azerbaijan
    10.02497880 Iranian_Fars
    10.12064721 Turk_East
    10.80850591 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
    11.54210120 Turk_Southeast
    11.83973395 Turk_Ahıska
    12.26408578 Georgian_Kartli-Kakheti
    12.71025177 Azerbaijani_Jew
    12.89775174 Iranian_Kerman
    13.03975076 Armenian_East
    I don't think it's off for Aghjabadi. Could be assimilated Kurds or other Iranic speakers. Such results exist in Iranian Azerbaijan too every now and then.

    Btw the region that they are from is all apparently from Hindarx in the Northwestern parts of Aghjabadi.
    Last edited by Kyp; 07-29-2022 at 03:33 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyp View Post
    I don't think it's off for Aghjabadi. Could be assimilated Kurds or other Iranic speakers. Such results exist in Iranian Azerbaijan too every now and then.

    Btw the region that they are from is all apparently from Hindarx in the Northwestern parts of Aghjabadi.
    Yes, that is likely the case. I asked around, and it turns out there has been a migration from Lachin to Agjabadi. For example, the population of Taxtakörpü willage is from Lachin (which had a large Kurdish population).

    https://az.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxtak...C9%99b%C9%99si

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    1) Tat_Azerbaijan (n=5)

    Gedrosia 22.23
    Siberian 2.44
    Northwest_African 0.57
    Southeast_Asian 0.51
    Atlantic_Med 6.37
    North_European 12.28
    South_Asian 2.7
    East_African 0.25
    Southwest_Asian 10.92
    East_Asian 1.05
    Caucasus 40.18
    Sub_Saharan 0.31

    Tat_Azerbaijan,22.23,2.44,0.57,0.51,6.37,12.28,2.7 ,0.25,10.92,1.05,40.18,0.31

    2) Tat_Azerbaijan(+) (n=6 , with 1/8 Lezgi one)

    Gedrosia 22.77
    Siberian 2.20
    Northwest_African 0.47
    Southeast_Asian 0.57
    Atlantic_Med 6.50
    North_European 12.60
    South_Asian 2.67
    East_African 0.20
    Southwest_Asian 10.89
    East_Asian 1.28
    Caucasus 39.44
    Sub_Saharan 0

    Tat_Azerbaijan(+),22.77,2.20,0.47,0.57,6.50,12.60, 2.67,0.20,10.89,1.28,39.44,0

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    Azerbaijani_Tovuz-Shamkir,19.69,3.34,0.63,0.45,9.24,9.51,1.79,0.21,1 1.32,7.24,37,0

    Azerbaijani_Tovuz-Shamkir (n=4)
    Gedrosia 19.69
    Siberian 3.34
    Northwest_African 0.63
    Southeast_Asian 0.45
    Atlantic_Med 9.24
    North_European 9.51
    South_Asian 1.79
    East_African 0.21
    Southwest_Asian 11,32
    East_Asian 7.24
    Caucasus 37
    Sub_Saharan 0

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    Distance to: Turkmen_TM
    5.54838715 Turkmen_Iran
    10.63223871 Tajik_Mountain
    10.73090397 Iranian_Khorasan
    11.18938783 Tajik_Herat
    12.09107936 Tajik_Lowland
    12.52353385 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
    14.19478425 Azerbaijani_Tovuz-Shamkir
    14.28881031 Iranian_Kerman
    14.84247284 Azerbaijani_Tabriz
    14.98963976 Azerbaijani_Average

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bysf View Post
    Azerbaijani_Tovuz-Shamkir,19.69,3.34,0.63,0.45,9.24,9.51,1.79,0.21,1 1.32,7.24,37,0

    Azerbaijani_Tovuz-Shamkir (n=4)
    Gedrosia 19.69
    Siberian 3.34
    Northwest_African 0.63
    Southeast_Asian 0.45
    Atlantic_Med 9.24
    North_European 9.51
    South_Asian 1.79
    East_African 0.21
    Southwest_Asian 11,32
    East_Asian 7.24
    Caucasus 37
    Sub_Saharan 0
    Distance to: Turkmen_TM
    5.54838715 Turkmen_Iran
    10.63223871 Tajik_Mountain
    10.73090397 Iranian_Khorasan
    11.18938783 Tajik_Herat
    12.09107936 Tajik_Lowland
    12.52353385 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
    14.19478425 Azerbaijani_Tovuz-Shamkir
    14.28881031 Iranian_Kerman
    14.84247284 Azerbaijani_Tabriz
    14.98963976 Azerbaijani_Average

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