"Proto-Iranians were not Northern Europeans"

[Halgurd]

The Southern Arc paper agrees that the Indo-Iranians came from the steppe. Dozens of Proto-Indo-Iranic and Proto-Iranic loanwords into Proto-Uralic and Proto-Finno-Ugric, including the fact that "Aryan" in Proto-Uralic (a Siberian hunter-gatherer language) means slave, prove that the Indo-Iranians lived in the northern steppes and not in western Asia, which is the dominant view among linguists and archaeologists. Keep coping Kurd.

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[Leto]

The Southern Arc paper agrees that the Indo-Iranians came from the steppe. Dozens of Proto-Indo-Iranic and Proto-Iranic loanwords into Proto-Uralic and Proto-Finno-Ugric, including the fact that "Aryan" in Proto-Uralic (a Siberian hunter-gatherer language) means slave, prove that the Indo-Iranians lived in the northern steppes and not in western Asia, which is the dominant view among linguists and archaeologists.

Pre-Indo-Iranian
*ertä ‘side’, *kekrä ‘wheel’, *kečrä ‘spindle’, *mekši ‘bee’, (*meti ‘honey’), *ońća ‘part’,
(*orpa ‘orphan’), *peijas ‘feast’, *pejmä ‘milk’, Pre-P *pertä ‘wing’, *repä ‘fox’, *rećmä
‘rope’, *sejti ‘bridge’

Proto-Indo-Iranian
*aćtara ‘whip’, *anti/onta, *ora ‘awl’, *orja ‘slave; south’, (*orpa ‘orphan’), *pośi ‘penis’,
*śaŋka ‘handle’, Pre-Md *śaγa ‘goat’, *śarwi ‘horn’, *śaδa- ‘to rain’, śara- ‘shit’, *śi̮ta
‘hundred’, Pre-P *śVta ‘hundred’, *śasra ‘thousand’, *śišta ‘wax’, *śoma- ‘sad’, *waćara
‘hammer’, *woraći ‘boar’

Uncertain cases
*ćaŋka- ‘to sting’, *ćara- ‘brown; ? to dawn’, *ćarapa ‘elk’, *ćero ‘hill-top’,? *ćerti ‘group’,
*porćas, PUg *śeŋkV ‘nail’ 

Proto-Iranian
(*ačwa ‘horse’) *mača ‘insect’, *očra ‘barley’, *počaw ‘reindeer’, *päčäɣ ‘reindeer’, *serä
‘old’, *šoji- ‘to care’, *šukta ‘burnt patch’

Ambiguous early loans (can be either from PII or PI)
*ajša ‘shaft’, *asVra ‘lord’, *iha ‘yearning. passion’, *ihta ‘lust’, *jama ‘twin’, *jawi/jowa
(> Mo juv) ‘awn’, *jawi (> PS *jäə̑) ‘flour’, *ji̮ni ‘way, path’, *juma ‘god’, *kana- ‘to dig’,
*kara- ‘to dig’, *kata- ‘to graze’, *kertä- ‘to bind’, *ki̮ntaw ‘tree stump’, *kürtńV ‘iron’, PKh
*kǟrtV ‘iron’, *kärtä ‘iron’, *martas ‘dead’, *ńātV- ‘to help’, *pakas ‘god’, *para ‘good’,
Kh pĕnt ‘way’, PMs *pē̮ńtV ‘brother-in-law’, *pora ‘old’, *poči- ‘to boil’, Pre-P *porta
‘vessel’, *puntaksi ‘bottom’, Pre-Ma *pänti- ‘to bind’, PMa *pärća ‘ear of corn’, *pätäri- ‘to
flee’, *saγi- ‘to get, obtain’, *sampas ‘pillar’, *saŋka ‘old’, *sara ‘lake’, *sasara ‘sister’,
*säptä ‘seven’, *tajwas ‘sky’, *takra ‘piece of flesh’, *tarna ‘grass’, *tojwV ‘wish’, *toraksi
‘through’, *tora- ‘to fight’, *täjV ‘milk’, *täjinV ‘cow’, *täši, *uška ‘bull’, *wakša- (> PS
*wåtå-) ‘to grow’, *wajna- ‘to see’, *wojna- ‘to see’, *wiša ‘venom’, *wi̮rna ‘wool’, *wärkä
‘kidney’, PS *wǝ̑rkǝ̑ ‘wolf’, *wirtV- ‘to hold, raise’, *äŋkärä ‘coal’

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Keep coping Kurd.

How would those hunter-gatherers have held Aryans as slaves? They must have been superior to Aryans

[Halgurd]

How would those hunter-gatherers have held Aryans as slaves? They must have been superior to Aryans

Early Indo-Iranians dominated everyone in their path and even took down the biggest empire the world had ever seen in the Iron Age. Slave my ass.

[Token]

Early Indo-Iranians dominated everyone in their path and even took down the biggest empire the world had ever seen in the Iron Age. Slave my ass.

Finno-Permians still use "Aryan" as synonymous of slave, lmfao

[Leto]

Early Indo-Iranians dominated everyone in their path and even took down the biggest empire the world had ever seen in the Iron Age. Slave my ass.

Well, somehow the Uralics managed to extirpate the Indo-Iranians from the Volga-Ural region. Russian Uralics have a shit ton of Steppe ancestry and some of them show double digit amounts of R1a.

[Halgurd]

Finno-Permians still use "Aryan" as synonymous of slave, lmfao

Except in Iranian languages it is not pronounced “Aryan” - this is a European rendering. It is pronounced Arî in Kurdish, Aryayî in Persian. It is etymologically unrelated and means noble.

[Halgurd]

Well, somehow the Uralics managed to extirpate the Indo-Iranians from the Volga-Ural region. Russian Uralics have a shit ton of Steppe ancestry and some of them show double digit amounts of R1a.

R1a-Z93 is related to Indo-Iranians. If anything that suggests the complete opposite - but then again I am not familiar with Uralics and I don’t like to make claims out of my ass like this Token dude

[Leto]

Everyone wants to be Aryan because it's often understood as racially superior, mighty and good-looking.

[Leto]

R1a-Z93 is related to Indo-Iranians. If anything that suggests the complete opposite - but then again I am not familiar with Uralics and I don’t like to make claims out of my ass like this Token dude

It suggests that Uralic speakers might have assimilated IE speakers, hence the R1a in the region.

Token is a self-purported academic scholar, you should listen to him

[Token]

Except in Iranian languages it is not pronounced “Aryan” - this is a European rendering. It is pronounced Arî in Kurdish, Aryayî in Persian. It is etymologically unrelated and means noble.

All of them stem from Proto-Indo-Iranian *arya so it doesn't matter, in Uralic slave is still "orja" (from PII *arya). Your ancestors were enslaved by Siberian hunter-gatherer tribes and this is still remembered by their descendants.