Genetic Distances to Iron Age Canaanite Samples

[Sacrificed Ram]

Interesting how they concluded they are canaanites if they are virtually extinct during Iron Age. Iron Age was the Judges-David-Salomonic rule, plus the presence of arameans, hitittes, philistians, assyrians, babilonians, persians and even greeks...

[amazigh_Morocco]

Interesting how they concluded they are canaanites if they are virtually extinct during Iron Age. Iron Age was the Judges-David-Salomonic rule, plus the presence of arameans, hitittes, philistians, assyrians, babilonians, persians and even greeks...

for sure they are not
1. Persian because they are not in the persian cluster
2. Greek because they are not in the greek cluster
3. Philistine because they are not in the south European cluster (for instance, they have found 3 samples that are shifted to Europeans and they conclude that they were philistines)
4. Aramaan ? it is difficult to make genetic differences with Canaanites.

[Sacrificed Ram]

for sure they are not
1. Persian because they are not in the persian cluster
2. Greek because they are not in the greek cluster
3. Philistine because they are not in the south European cluster (for instance, they have found 3 samples that are shifted to Europeans and they conclude that they were philistines)
4. Aramaan ? it is difficult to make genetic differences with Canaanites.

1 - It is a circular fallacy:

"This sample is canaanite because cluster palestines, palestines are canaanites because cluster this sample."

2 - Canaanite isn't exactly a very correct historic/scientific term, because of it the study call them "Levant", not "Canaanite".

3 - The thread's creator is looking doing political/religious biased propaganda calling them "canaanites", there are more important things to do with money of american contributor, like send it to Ukraine, not to sponsor illogical crap.

4 - Try to read Bible in its original, not distorted translations of already lagged Vulgata.

[amazigh_Morocco]

1 - It is a circular fallacy:

"This sample is canaanite because cluster palestines, palestines are canaanites because cluster this sample."

Nope

2 - Canaanite isn't exactly a very correct historic/scientific term, because of it the study call them "Levant", not "Canaanite".

call it whatever you want, you can just call it "autochtonous population of Palestine/Israel during the Iron age".

3 - The thread's creator is looking doing political/religious biased propaganda calling them "canaanites", there are more important things to do with money of american contributor, like send it to Ukraine, not to sponsor illogical crap..

you do politics and religion, not the thread's creator.

4 - Try to read Bible in its original, not distorted translations of already lagged Vulgata.

I am atheist, I don't trust the bible or any religious book.
The universe was not created in 6 days.

So from your post, I can conclude that you are jewish or christian, you believe in God and you consider palestinians as non-native of the land.
so you do politics and religion.

[Sacrificed Ram]

Nope

Elaborate.

call it whatever you want, you can just call it "autochtonous population of Palestine/Israel during the Iron age".

Did not existed "autochtonous population" in Levant during iron age, but a great disturbance of population. Assyrians, babilonians and achemenids had the politic of exile and resettlement, many peoples were moved out Levant, while others were brought. At least it historic records tell us...

you do politics and religion, not the thread's creator.

It is clear, the study call these samples "Levant", not "Canaanites".

I am atheist, I don't trust the bible or any religious book.
The universe was not created in 6 days.

Protestants read the Bible literally.

Despite catholics consider the Bible sacred and divine inspirited, they see and interpret the texts as allegories, some times not a real fact. Catholics rely in clerical authority and catechism to ratify the applicability of some text.

Today catholics are even using new translations of Bible, like Jerusalem Bible, following new understanding of their faith.

Catholics dont believe in six day created universe literally, they see Genesis as an allegory. CATHOLICS BELIEVE IN EVOLUTION.

So from your post, I can conclude that you are jewish or christian, you believe in God.

I am more radical than an atheist, I am ignostic.

you consider palestinians as non-native of the land

Migration is a precept in Al'Quran, so many muslim claim with pride they came from distant lands to preach Islam, to claim be 'native' isn't the normal behavior of a muslim. Also as brazilian, most of my ancestry is non native to these lands, I just claim current usufructuarity.

so you do politics and religion.

With my own money, not with the money of contributor.

State to sponsor some religion is NAZIFASCISM.

[amazigh_Morocco]

Elaborate.



Did not existed "autochtonous population" in Levant during iron age, but a great disturbance of population. Assyrians, babilonians and achemenids had the politic of exile and resettlement, many peoples were moved out Levant, while others were brought. At least it historic records tell us...



It is clear, the study call these samples "Levant", not "Canaanites".




Protestants read the Bible literally.

Despite catholics consider the Bible sacred and divine inspirited, they see and interpret the texts as allegories, some times not a real fact. Catholics rely in clerical authority and catechism to ratify the applicability of some text.

Today catholics are even using new translations of Bible, like Jerusalem Bible, following new understanding of their faith.

Catholics dont believe in six day created universe literally, they see Genesis as an allegory. CATHOLICS BELIEVE IN EVOLUTION.





I am more radical than an atheist, I am ignostic.



Migration is a precept in Al'Quran, so many muslim claim with pride they came from distant lands to preach Islam, to claim be 'native' isn't the normal behavior of a muslim. Also as brazilian, most of my ancestry is non native to these lands, I just claim current usufructuarity.



With my own money, not with the money of contributor.

State to sponsor some religion is NAZIFASCISM.

Please speak with data ! I can build a PCA map for those populations, but would you be able to think outside your religious belief ?

[amazigh_Morocco]

Please speak with data ! I can build a PCA map for those populations, but would you be able to think outside your religious belief ?

here is a genetic map and I have not added Ethiopian Jews and Cochin Jews that are very very very far from Canaanites.


and here 2 studies who confirm the Canaanites and Philistines of the samples discovered in Ashkelon, Abel and Meggido.
https://www.cell.com/cell/fulltext/S...showall%3Dtrue
https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/sciadv.aax0061

[amazigh_Morocco]

if you want to reproduce the map.
here are the data

https://sharetext.me/ybpyzavxlu

[Sacrificed Ram]

Please speak with data !

I don't need work with data, if this thread even never transposed the logical level.

But if you want...

https://journals.plos.org/plosgeneti...l.pgen.1003316

[amazigh_Morocco]

I don't need work with data, if this thread even never transposed the logical level.

But if you want...

https://journals.plos.org/plosgeneti...l.pgen.1003316

you don't know how PCA works !
if you do a world PCA you can't get the accurate distance in a graph.
PCA is a projection.