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    Distance to: CDG_scaled
    0.07802435 Iberian:Basque
    0.07850662 Iberian:Spanish
    0.08347679 Iberianortuguese
    0.23459854 Berber:Berber_Algeria_Kabyle
    0.23709563 Berber:Berber_Morocco_Senhaja_de_Srair
    0.23743060 Berber:Berber_Morocco_Riffian
    0.24085771 Berber:Berber_Morocco_Ghomara
    0.24212059 Berber:Berber_Morocco_Eastern_Middle_Atlas_Tamazig ht
    0.24569174 Berber:Berber_Algeria_Shawiya
    0.24609763 Berber:Berber_Tunisia_East_Zenati_Matmata
    0.25001194 Berber:Berber_Tunisia_East_Zenati_Zraoua
    0.25343178 Berber:Berber_Tunisia_East_Zenati_Tamezret
    0.25362787 Berber:Berber_Tunisia_East_Zenati_Chenini
    0.25428114 Berber:Berber_Tunisia_East_Zenati_Sened
    0.26434543 Berber:Berber_Morocco_Central_Atlas_Tamazight
    0.27162538 Berber:Berber_Algeria_Mozabite
    0.28846308 Berber:Berber_Morocco_Central_Atlas_Tamazight_Erra chidia
    0.28923751 Berber:Berber_Algeria_Gourara_Timimoun
    0.29037774 Berber:Berber_Morocco_Shilha
    0.29490937 Berber:Berber_Morocco_Shilha_Tiznit
    0.35701695 Berber:Berber_Morocco_Shilha_Tiznit_o
    0.39639709 Berber:Berber_Morocco_Central_Atlas_Tamazight_Erra chidia_Intermediate_Profile
    0.42525913 Berber:Berber_Morocco_Shilha_Tiznit_Intermediate_P rofile
    0.49835762 Berber:Berber_Algeria_Gourara_Timimoun_Intermediat e_Profile
    0.56239924 Berber:Berber_Tunisia_East_Zenati_Matmata_Intermed iate_Profile

    Target: CDG_scaled
    Distance: 7.6539% / 0.07653916
    100.0 Iberian

    Target: CDG_scaled
    Distance: 7.6539% / 0.07653916
    53.6 Iberian:Basque
    46.4 Iberian:Spanish

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    This should be taken as a grain of salt.

    G25 was created for PCA
    https://www.yfull.com/tree/E-BY7449/
    E-V22 - E-BY7449 - E-BY7566 - E-FT155550
    According to oral family tradition E-FT155550 comes from a deserter of Napoleon's troops (1808-1813) who stayed in Spain and changed his surname.

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    Distance to: Oszkar
    0.07363765 Iberian:Spanish
    0.07768860 Iberian:Basque
    0.07866813 Iberianortuguese
    0.22848869 Berber:Berber_Algeria_Kabyle
    0.23150868 Berber:Berber_Morocco_Riffian
    0.23310169 Berber:Berber_Morocco_Senhaja_de_Srair
    0.23553205 Berber:Berber_Morocco_Ghomara
    0.23703232 Berber:Berber_Morocco_Eastern_Middle_Atlas_Tamazig ht
    0.23976088 Berber:Berber_Tunisia_East_Zenati_Matmata
    0.24118853 Berber:Berber_Algeria_Shawiya
    0.24359736 Berber:Berber_Tunisia_East_Zenati_Zraoua
    0.24738936 Berber:Berber_Tunisia_East_Zenati_Sened
    0.24777011 Berber:Berber_Tunisia_East_Zenati_Tamezret
    0.24801316 Berber:Berber_Tunisia_East_Zenati_Chenini
    0.25961310 Berber:Berber_Morocco_Central_Atlas_Tamazight
    0.26642395 Berber:Berber_Algeria_Mozabite
    0.28342715 Berber:Berber_Algeria_Gourara_Timimoun
    0.28404871 Berber:Berber_Morocco_Central_Atlas_Tamazight_Erra chidia
    0.28570443 Berber:Berber_Morocco_Shilha
    0.29070532 Berber:Berber_Morocco_Shilha_Tiznit
    0.35378269 Berber:Berber_Morocco_Shilha_Tiznit_o
    0.39355170 Berber:Berber_Morocco_Central_Atlas_Tamazight_Erra chidia_Intermediate_Profile
    0.42267988 Berber:Berber_Morocco_Shilha_Tiznit_Intermediate_P rofile
    0.49640769 Berber:Berber_Algeria_Gourara_Timimoun_Intermediat e_Profile
    0.56090058 Berber:Berber_Tunisia_East_Zenati_Matmata_Intermed iate_Profile


    Target: Oszkar
    Distance: 7.3313% / 0.07331262
    100.0 Iberian

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    Target: Grace_scaled
    Distance: 8.0006% / 0.08000568
    70.8 Iberian:Basque
    29.2 Iberian:Spanish

    Distance to: Grace_scaled
    0.08056811 Iberian:Basque
    0.08327748 Iberian:Spanish
    0.08910703 Iberian: Portuguese
    0.24079128 Berber:Berber_Algeria_Kabyle
    0.24297231 Berber:Berber_Morocco_Senhaja_de_Srair
    0.24365591 Berber:Berber_Morocco_Riffian
    0.24705011 Berber:Berber_Morocco_Ghomara
    0.24845204 Berber:Berber_Morocco_Eastern_Middle_Atlas_Tamazig ht
    0.25191206 Berber:Berber_Algeria_Shawiya
    0.25218485 Berber:Berber_Tunisia_East_Zenati_Matmata
    0.25620146 Berber:Berber_Tunisia_East_Zenati_Zraoua
    0.25947703 Berber:Berber_Tunisia_East_Zenati_Tamezret
    0.25994656 Berber:Berber_Tunisia_East_Zenati_Sened
    0.25996693 Berber:Berber_Tunisia_East_Zenati_Chenini
    0.27087457 Berber:Berber_Morocco_Central_Atlas_Tamazight
    0.27796809 Berber:Berber_Algeria_Mozabite
    0.29486796 Berber:Berber_Morocco_Central_Atlas_Tamazight_Erra chidia
    0.29507144 Berber:Berber_Algeria_Gourara_Timimoun
    0.29668783 Berber:Berber_Morocco_Shilha
    0.30125378 Berber:Berber_Morocco_Shilha_Tiznit
    0.36351435 Berber:Berber_Morocco_Shilha_Tiznit_o
    0.40225156 Berber:Berber_Morocco_Central_Atlas_Tamazight_Erra chidia_Intermediate_Profile
    0.43093229 Berber:Berber_Morocco_Shilha_Tiznit_Intermediate_P rofile
    0.50370418 Berber:Berber_Algeria_Gourara_Timimoun_Intermediat e_Profile
    0.56734497 Berber:Berber_Tunisia_East_Zenati_Matmata_Intermed iate_Profile
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gallop View Post
    Que gracioso él y se queda tan ancho.
    No por que son simuladas

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    Quote Originally Posted by vikiingMallorcaSpain View Post
    No por que son simuladas
    Son disimuladas
    https://www.yfull.com/tree/E-BY7449/
    E-V22 - E-BY7449 - E-BY7566 - E-FT155550
    According to oral family tradition E-FT155550 comes from a deserter of Napoleon's troops (1808-1813) who stayed in Spain and changed his surname.

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    FTDNA



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    I trust much more the companies and the tests the G25 since it came out seemed to have the intention to Africanize Spain.
    Last edited by Gallop; 12-02-2022 at 02:58 PM.
    https://www.yfull.com/tree/E-BY7449/
    E-V22 - E-BY7449 - E-BY7566 - E-FT155550
    According to oral family tradition E-FT155550 comes from a deserter of Napoleon's troops (1808-1813) who stayed in Spain and changed his surname.

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    Code:
    Target: Viriato_scaled
    Distance: 2.1170% / 0.02116996
    98.8	Iberian
    1.2	Berber
    YDNA: R1b-L21 > DF13 > S1051 > FGC17906 > FGC17907 > FGC17866


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    Quote Originally Posted by Gallop View Post
    FTDNA



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    I trust much more the companies and the tests the G25 since it came out seemed to have the intention to Africanize Spain.
    I see that you're taking the opinion of Bodilkas (aka Gaska) from AG who is screeching that nafri doesn't exist in iberia. It does at varying amounts. He's just indenial. It's true g25 possibly inflates it to some extent. But academic papers have the right number 11% max for an iberian found with the Portuguese, Galicians 9-10%, etc


    The problem is that g25 has a margin of error and isn't something to take literally I think we both can agree on that. Issue is completely disregarding that admixture which is in most iberians to some %... It's not good to go one way or the other (africanize us or purify us). Neither are necessarily correct. Issue with commerical tests it that within an Iberian component lies a amazigh % already so it won't show up. Most ignorant people will not know that unless they understood how commercial tests largely work. Fitting an avg for Berber in your region of Iberia will not warrant any extra NA... But if you get slightly more you'd have gotten around 1-2% as an extra component.
    [1] "distance%=1.7256"

    West_Iberia_IA,54.4
    Roman_Colonial,17.6
    Berber_EMA,10.8
    Germanic,10.6
    Scotland_EIA,6.6

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    Target: Alnortedelsur_scaled
    Distance: 5.2521% / 0.05252142
    89.2 Iberian
    10.8 Berber

    Code:
    Distanceto:	Alnortedelsur_scaled
    0.06550787	Iberian:Portuguese
    0.07411334	Iberian:Spanish
    0.09538186	Iberian:Basque
    0.14932512	Berber:Berber_Algeria_Kabyle
    0.15298699	Berber:Berber_Morocco_Riffian
    0.15478240	Berber:Berber_Morocco_Senhaja_de_Srair
    0.15913876	Berber:Berber_Morocco_Ghomara
    0.15965489	Berber:Berber_Morocco_Eastern_Middle_Atlas_Tamazight
    0.15978019	Berber:Berber_Tunisia_East_Zenati_Matmata
    0.16301302	Berber:Berber_Algeria_Shawiya
    0.16360454	Berber:Berber_Tunisia_East_Zenati_Zraoua
    0.16791932	Berber:Berber_Tunisia_East_Zenati_Tamezret
    0.16858294	Berber:Berber_Tunisia_East_Zenati_Sened
    0.16898966	Berber:Berber_Tunisia_East_Zenati_Chenini
    0.18108054	Berber:Berber_Morocco_Central_Atlas_Tamazight
    0.18665541	Berber:Berber_Algeria_Mozabite
    0.20236579	Berber:Berber_Algeria_Gourara_Timimoun
    0.20385404	Berber:Berber_Morocco_Central_Atlas_Tamazight_Errachidia
    0.20711837	Berber:Berber_Morocco_Shilha
    0.21261112	Berber:Berber_Morocco_Shilha_Tiznit
    0.27470545	Berber:Berber_Morocco_Shilha_Tiznit_o
    0.31552845	Berber:Berber_Morocco_Central_Atlas_Tamazight_Errachidia_Intermediate_Profile
    0.34710312	Berber:Berber_Morocco_Shilha_Tiznit_Intermediate_Profile
    0.42393270	Berber:Berber_Algeria_Gourara_Timimoun_Intermediate_Profile
    0.49122228	Berber:Berber_Tunisia_East_Zenati_Matmata_Intermediate_Profile
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