South Versus North calculator (Europe Bronze Age calculator)

[gixajo]

Distance to: Aila_scaled

Yeah, a Karelian is actually a true North European, the real heirs of those ANE and no those fake Baltics or Scandinavians whose ANE input come with Yamanya component during BA entered mainly trhough Central Europe.

[PT Tagus]

Target: Endovelicus_scaled
Distance: 3.7844% / 0.03784415
91.6 South_Europe
5.0 North_Europe
3.4 Africa

Target: Endovelicus_scaled
Distance: 3.7844% / 0.03784415
70.2 South_Europe:HRV_BA
21.2 South_Europe:Iberia_Central_BA
3.4 North_Europe:IRL_BA
3.4 Africa:ZAF_2100BP
1.6 North_Europe:UKR_MBA
0.2 South_Europe:GRC_Mycenaean_Attica_BA

Distance to:	Endovelicus_scaled
0.05157620	South_Europe:HRV_BA
0.05886397	South_Europe:ITA_Broion_BA
0.07333124	South_Europe:ALB_MBA
0.07882293	South_Europe:Iberia_Central_BA
0.10107260	North_Europe:DNK_BA
0.10289331	South_Europe:GRC_Mycenaean_Attica_BA
0.10622380	North_Europe:IRL_BA
0.10955441	North_Europe:SWE_BA
0.13150300	North_Europe:UKR_MBA
0.19510051	North_Europe:Baltic_EST_BA
0.61124914	Asia:CHN_Amur_River_6320BP
0.61821374	Oceania:AUS_Willandra_Lakes_4000BP
0.67227086	America:ARG_ArroyoSeco2_7700BP
0.87200110	Africa:ZAF_2100BP

[gixajo]

Next time I must not forget to write "for fun" and call it "model" instead of "calculator". also add a warning saying that the result does not imply having any type of southern European ancestry, but that it is simply a way of comparing ourselves with respect to given references.

I don't want any Northern Europeans to think that I want to add some fake filthy Southern European ancestry to them or that I intend to turn Southern Europeans into shiny Northern Europeans.

Although the only truly advanced culture of all these Bronze Age references is the southernmost of them all, and that would be the only one to be truly proud of, unless we value a head with blond hair more than a head with brains.

The last two things are a joke, but the first one isn't, I'm bored of being accused of having an agenda when anyone who sees the history of models/calculators I've posted should know that all I do is play with references. In this case my game was to see how people is modelled with some BA references South/North that were somewhat symetric on this PCA.

But of course, in my games I don't usually tell you everything, the majority of fun is for me, yours is secondary. (I'm sorry)

[gixajo]

Anyway, even if I had said it from the beginning, there is always someone who would be offended. There are always more allegedly offended than intentional offenses.

[Damião de Góis]

Target: Gil_Vicente
Distance: 3.0098% / 0.03009811
61.2 South_Europe:HRV_BA
22.8 South_Europe:Iberia_Central_BA
7.2 North_Europe:UKR_MBA
5.8 North_Europe:IRL_BA
2.4 Africa:ZAF_2100BP
0.6 Oceania:AUS_Willandra_Lakes_4000BP


Where is HRV from?

[gixajo]

Target: Gil_Vicente



Where is HRV from?

Croatia.

[Jingle Bell]

Target: JingleBell_scaled
Distance: 19.5592% / 0.19559168
58.6 South_Europe
31.8 Africa
4.4 Oceania
3.8 America
1.0 North_Europe
0.4 Asia

I think i need some ssa samples XD

Target: JingleBell_scaled
Distance: 2.4028% / 0.02402847
43.0 West_African_Niger-Congo
38.8 South_Europe
10.6 North_Europe
4.6 East_African_Nilo-Saharan
3.0 America

[Damião de Góis]

Croatia.

That's odd.

[gixajo]

That's odd.

Very odd.

Those are the individual samples with which that average was made in the official datasheet:

I18712
I18748
I5073
I5074
I5080

But well, if you know MTA, you should be used to be modelled also as "Illyrian", right?

[gixajo]

That's odd.

And:

I18712 2500-800 BCE HRV_BA D. Ostrvica-Pasičine Croatia J-PH1602 J2b2a1a1a1b2~
I18748 1900-1600 BCE HRV_BA Bogomolje, 1981 Croatia J-Y15058 J2b2a1a1a1b~
I5073 1732-1542 calBCE (3350±20 BP, PSUAMS-3812) HRV_BA Koprivno Croatia J-PH1602 J2b2a1a1a1b2~
I5074 1497-1397 calBCE (3155±20 BP, PSUAMS-3813) HRV_BA Matkovici Croatia J-Z38240 J2b2a1a1a1b~
I5080 1743-1623 calBCE (3395±20 BP, PSUAMS-3814) HRV_BA Zavojane-Ravca, Velika Gomila Croatia J-Z38240 J2b2a1a1a1b~

HRV_BA:I18712,0.126344,0.152329,0.029038,-0.004845,0.035699,-0.013108,0.001175,0.002308,0.010022,0.020775,0.001299,0.004346,-0.018731,-0.002202,0.002172,-0.010342,-0.005085,0.000253,0.003142,-0.012131,-0.008735,0.003339,0.002588,-0.00494,-0.011017
HRV_BA:I18748,0.122929,0.138112,0.024136,-0.00969,0.036622,-0.01255,0.00047,-0.002769,-0.000614,0.025878,0,0.004796,-0.017988,-0.003165,-0.00475,-0.007955,0.007302,-0.001014,0.002263,-0.004502,-0.006489,0.004822,0.004314,0.003374,-0.005628
HRV_BA:I5073,0.120652,0.145221,0.026398,-0.011305,0.029544,-0.015339,-0.00188,-0.001154,0.006954,0.03098,0.003573,0.008243,-0.015758,-0.012248,-0.000136,0.013789,0.019297,-0.003421,0.00352,-0.003126,-0.010856,-0.001607,0,0.000723,0.001916
HRV_BA:I5074,0.125205,0.152329,0.026398,-0.007752,0.02739,-0.001116,-0.000235,-0.005769,0.013703,0.02606,-0.006171,0.008093,-0.013825,0.001514,-0.001221,-0.016706,-0.005867,0.003041,0.002263,-0.001,-0.003868,0.002349,0.001972,0.00735,-0.000838
HRV_BA:I5080,0.129758,0.15436,0.035826,-0.007429,0.039084,-0.00502,0.000235,0.004384,0.007363,0.029158,0.002761,0.01109,-0.017096,-0.00578,-0.011401,-0.003845,0.001695,-0.003421,0.004651,-0.003377,-0.003619,-0.001731,-0.007272,0.000482,-0.006826

Por muy mal que les guste a muchos, me suelo preparar algo los modelos antes de hacerlos, y no precisamente buscando que den unos resultados concretos a ciertas personas.