which countries you consider most and least "Balkan" discussion thread.

[Demirkazık]

Actually, I'd say most citizens in Anatolia were living a life more relaxed and uninterrupted than even Slovenes and Croats, while Ottoman Empire was trying to spead.

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[Occiput in Starlight]

Is there a Jireček line for cuisine in Serbia?

Something like, "Below this line Greek and Turkish dishes are stronger, above it Hungarian and Ijekavian staples strengthen."

[Dušan]

In former Yugoslavia and around one of the dish with Ottoman root are Ćevapi (plural), name came from kebab) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ćevapi
Most famous are banjalučki (from Banja Luka), travnički (from Travnik), sarajevski (from Sarajevo) and leskovački (from Leskovac). Travnik is in Bosnia as Banja Luka and Sarajevo, and Leskovac is in southern Serbia. These ćevapi that i mentioned are different from each other by composition, shape and size. The biggest rivalry is between Sarajevo and Banja Luka, whose ćevapi are better.

I remember once when i was a kid, i was in Belgrade with parents in one ćevabdžinica (a place where ćevapi are made and sold). Owner was there, he spoke with some man on the side. He had typical Bosnian accent, and i realized he is Bosniak/Muslim because they partly spoke about religion and he mentioned Islam as his religion. In Belgrade there are also owners of that shops who are Bosnian Serbs, especially from Sarajevo.
Honor to all regions/countries which carry ćevapi, but it is mostly Bosnian tradition.

I eat ćevapi at ćevabdžinica Cica. There are two objects, in Zemun and near Knez Mihajlova.

But recently I rather like to eat gyros.

[Dušan]

Burek with yoghurt for breakfast, ćevapi for lunch, dark coffee with locum in afternoon.

[Varda]

In former Yugoslavia and around one of the dish with Ottoman root are Ćevapi (plural), name came from kebab) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ćevapi
Most famous are banjalučki (from Banja Luka), travnički (from Travnik), sarajevski (from Sarajevo) and leskovački (from Leskovac). Travnik is in Bosnia as Banja Luka and Sarajevo, and Leskovac is in southern Serbia. These ćevapi that i mentioned are different from each other by composition, shape and size. The biggest rivalry is between Sarajevo and Banja Luka, whose ćevapi are better.

I remember once when i was a kid, i was in Belgrade with parents in one ćevabdžinica (a place where ćevapi are made and sold). Owner was there, he spoke with some man on the side. He had typical Bosnian accent, and i realized he is Bosniak/Muslim because they partly spoke about religion and he mentioned Islam as his religion. In Belgrade there are also owners of that shops who are Bosnian Serbs, mostly from Sarajevo.
Honor to all regions/countries which carry ćevapi, but it is mostly Bosnian tradition.

I forgot pazarski (from Novi Pazar), it's also famous. I hope RogueState doesn't get angry (he is Sandžakian from Novi Pazar).

Pazarski ćevapi.




Ćevabžinica in Belgrade with sarajevski ćevapi. Owner is Bosnian Serb from Sarajevo.

[Alenka]

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[Dick]

[Aspirin]

I connect Romania with Balkan due to their origins rather than Ottoman input (I don't connect Romania with much of that).

They are genetically Balkan.

But Romania is located outside of Balkans, and has strong eastern European influence, also Latin and central European one.

So I see it as more non Balkan than Balkan.

And have no idea in which region to put it.

Being more southern genetically don't makes you Balkan at all. Pastoralism again has nothing to do with Balkan either, since in heavily present across entire Southern Europe and Western Europe as north as Scotland. I already said in another thread what some groups of Romanians like these from Transylvania and Maramureș are not Balkan in any sense. Balkan first and most is related to heavy Oriental/Ottoman-Fanariot influence and strong corruption bringed by Greeks and Hellenised Albanians and Aromanians, all this was entirely absent in Transylvania and Maramureș.

Is enough to listen to the folk music from these regions to see almost entirely absence of this specific oriental motifs who are present in Moldova and Wallachia, let alone Balkans south of Danube.

[Dušan]

It is very popular in Zagreb and Croatia.

Listen up, Balkania! Where is Feiichy?

[Varda]

It is very popular in Zagreb and Croatia.

Listen up, Balkania! Where is Feiichy?

Sandra Afrika is proud on her Croatian roots https://www.sd.rs/zabava/vip/sandra-...dva-bozica-dva