Why do so many in this forum put so much more emphasis on race than culture or language?

[Colonel Frank Grimes]

Cyanosis is a bluish discoloration all over the skin. Blue half-moons are the last stronghold of Negro blood. At least that's what I was told growing up.

You shouldn't believe everything you were told growing up. Cyanosis also affects fingernails.

[HannibaltheGreat]

You are confused about so much things, i don't even know where to begins with this torrent of nonesense and falsehood, in strange english on top of it, so im not sure it's worth since you don't seem to be able to understand the ironical tone of some sentences. But let's say someone else might find it interesting.

sure I am confused.

With a difference of 0.5% genes you are another species of Hominids, with 1.5% you are a Chimp, so... yes mices are another species. You were saying previously "x" sharing a lot of genes with "y" should look the same or shouldn't if they don't, that's not how it works, and it's not based on the amount of genes shared as it's been established with mices and humans. You likely didn't know that minutes ago.

They don't have the Same mutations.
So if a "white" person scored 1.5 percent Sub Saharan African on their DNA test does that mean they are not white no more?
So if a Person scored 1.5 percent Neanderthal DNA or greater does that mean they are no longer Homosapians but a new "race"?

You don't seem to realize you are proving yourself wrong by saying different races can look similar like Oceanians and SSA. They don't really though, but they parted ways on other elements than skin color that are constituing the vast majority of the dna that matters, which is the whole point since the beginning: How people look (especially in your terms) is often a terrible oversight of the biological reality and you keep doing it over and over, with those outdated ideas of the brown paper bag, claiming this proves race doesn't exist.

Many do do though or look like a Mullato or East African.
Melanasian










Africans

The best example are Papuans who didn't have to change as much in superficial traits from Africans than other races. In short they went from one jungle to another, then developped their own mutations in isolation during at least 50 000 years, like every other major races. However there are even blonde Papuans/Bougainvilles, what's your conclusion with this? Are they mixed, are they another race, another explanation,... or it's just a random amino acid change in one gene TYRP1 and some unknown allele which is still anecdotally debated. The important part is they remain genetically indistinguishable from other Salomon islanders, as they should, but both very much from other groups.

Right, Phenotypically similar, Yet not very closely related. But "Races" are supposed to be Phenotypically different? Why would use the Chinese and the Cameroonian before and use phenotype to explain Race difference then. But here you want to ignore Melanesians are phenotypically similar to Sub Saharan?

In the grand scheme of things the main races of Europeans, Africans and East Asians won't look like each others, for the most part because they had to entirely adapt physiologically to their new environments, that means a lot more than skin color which alone is not the reason they are 3 different races.

So Afghanistan People Are European now? Really? Did the Nordic and Neolithic Hunter gatherer European and Forest Dwelling European evolve to stop resembling the desert dwelling middle eastern and the Afghani people phenotypically?
Afghani people and Arabs are Europeans now?:

Really? so Tropical South East asians such as Philippines or Cambodians are the same race as northern like Siberian Kamatchka, Altai mountain Indigenous peoples or or North Koreans Asians? Slender Flat nosed South East Asians are the same race as Stocky Builty North Asians Slender San Peoples? Or Barrel Chested Andean Native Americans? Or Sammi People from Finland are the Same race as Kamatchka People? Which one is it? Same race as Cold Adapted Asian people or Tropical Sub saharans? I mean they both have Flat noses, and full flips very often.


definition of Race: Race is a categorization of humans based on shared physical or social qualities into groups generally viewed as distinct within a given society.


Defining race
Modern scholarship views racial categories as socially constructed, that is, race is not intrinsic to human beings but rather an identity created, often by socially dominant groups, to establish meaning in a social context. Different cultures define different racial groups, often focused on the largest groups of social relevance, and these definitions can change over time.

It doesnt say anything about Genetics

https://www.genome.gov/genetics-glos...%20the%20world.

Race is a social construct used to group people. Race was constructed as a hierarchal human-grouping system, generating racial classifications to identify, distinguish and marginalize some groups across nations, regions and the world. Race divides human populations into groups often based on physical appearance, social factors and cultural backgrounds.

Race has nothing to do with Genetics. Its an association of phenotypes. Its a way people try to categorize humans by physical characteristics. Its not genetic

[SilverKnight]

As I wrote here: https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...language/page3
"I just find the dissonance in values and priorities that many forum users have risible (not saying you specifically). They complain if their neighbourhood or city changes from 99% White to 93% White, but seem (at least by comparison) quite relaxed at seeing their native language disappear or being subsumed." Let us discuss.

Because me like them white, freckles with red hair and kinda thick

[HannibaltheGreat]

new rule, If you carry a dwarf gene you are part of of the Dwarven race. If you are under 5'5 but dont have the dwarf gene you are part of the midget race

[Petalpusher]

sure I am confused.


They don't have the Same mutations.
So if a "white" person scored 1.5 percent Sub Saharan African on their DNA test does that mean they are not white no more?
So if a Person scored 1.5 percent Neanderthal DNA or greater does that mean they are no longer Homosapians but a new "race"?

You still don't understand 1.5% of admixture, which is a frequency of divergent genotype, is not the same as having 1.5% different genes, so understanding any other principle is completely hopeless.

Race used to be more or less a construct indeed because we didn't have any other means apart from observations, even astute ones, unlike yours. With the advent of genetics it's now a biological reality based on empirical evidences that confirms for the most part what we always thought, with some nuances and newly found paradigms. We tend to replace the word race for ethnicities, groups, etc...as it's not as triggering for people like you but we all know we mean race. That would be so strange that all the livings had speciation and raciation for millions of years but humans did not.

[HannibaltheGreat]

You still don't understand 1.5% of admixture, which is a frequency of divergent genotype, is not the same as having 1.5% different genes, so understanding any other principle is completely hopeless.

Race used to be more or less a construct indeed because we didn't have any other means apart from observations, even astute ones, unlike yours. With the advent of genetics it's now a biological reality based on empirical evidences that confirms for the most part what we always thought, with some nuances and newly found paradigms. We tend to replace the word race for ethnicities, groups, etc...as it's not as triggering for people like you but we all know we mean race. That would be so strange that all the livings had speciation and raciation for millions of years but humans did not.

Yea yea, sure
Basically, you have no sufficient rebutal but to ignore it all

[Mortimer]

You still don't understand 1.5% of admixture, which is a frequency of divergent genotype, is not the same as having 1.5% different genes, so understanding any other principle is completely hopeless.

Race used to be more or less a construct indeed because we didn't have any other means apart from observations, even astute ones, unlike yours. With the advent of genetics it's now a biological reality based on empirical evidences that confirms for the most part what we always thought, with some nuances and newly found paradigms. We tend to replace the word race for ethnicities, groups, etc...as it's not as triggering for people like you but we all know we mean race. That would be so strange that all the livings had speciation and raciation for millions of years but humans did not.

I think it is not only another word, but also another concept, when we speak of human biodiversity we do not speak of "race" in the traditional sense, in the traditional sense for example it was considered unnatural to be a mullato, like something like a mule between a donkey and a horse, i always wondered if the word mullato is related to the word mule, thats why also laws forbidding such companionships, or death penalty by the KKK for such things. Did you watched Mudbound on netflix? The KKK said that the mullato is not a child but "a unnatural abomination" and that the punishment for that crime is death, but because he had a very good white friend, he got away with just his "tongue" being cutt off so he was mute for the rest of his life.

[axel.aleman]

Because me like them white, freckles with red hair and kinda thick

I prefer mediterranean white girls with dark hair
And Pred. Euro Hispanic giros. Some northern african and middle east girls too

[Petalpusher]

I think it is not only another word, but also another concept, when we speak of human biodiversity we do not speak of "race" in the traditional sense, in the traditional sense for example it was considered unnatural to be a mullato, like something like a mule between a donkey and a horse, i always wondered if the word mullato is related to the word mule, thats why also laws forbidding such companionships, or death penalty by the KKK for such things. Did you watched Mudbound on netflix? The KKK said that the mullato is not a child but "a unnatural abomination" and that the punishment for that crime is death, but because he had a very good white friend, he got away with just his "tongue" being cutt off so he was mute for the rest of his life.

Yes, mulatto comes from the allusion to the origin of mules, the hybrid mixing of horses and donkeys.

Bruno was burned at the stake for believing in many worlds ("exoplanets" in modern terms). Those who supported this were seen as heretics, along with commoners believing in other worlds made of demons, justifying their heresy. Yet today they were both right on Bruno's principle, many other worlds exist, at least. Maybe one day we will even find out they are inhabited by "demons". Idiots can also harbor parts of the truth.

[Figueiredo]

"Why do so many in this forum put so much more emphasis on race than culture or language?"

Because our race is our roots and our base. And nothing is more important than honoring, celebrating and defending our race.