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    Quote Originally Posted by Grace O'Malley View Post
    Possibly your Native American is too distant. These tests only go back approximately 6 generations. K13 is not really proof though. This is my daughter's result on K13 and she doesn't have anyone in her ancestry that could be Native American.



    She gets these results in her mixed mode.

    6 98.9% Southwest_English + 1.1% Karitiana @ 1.85
    7 98.7% Southwest_English + 1.3% North_Amerindian @ 1.85
    8 98.8% Southwest_English + 1.2% Pima @ 1.86
    9 98.8% Southwest_English + 1.2% Mayan @ 1.87
    14 98.7% Southwest_English + 1.3% East_Greenlander @ 2
    15 98.7% Southwest_English + 1.3% West_Greenlander @ 2.06

    Do you have other commercial dna tests that give you Native American like Ancestry for example? I would take more seriously results like that. If you have Grandparents still around it would be worthwhile getting them tested as they would be closer to the source.
    Thanks, that is interesting. I have been able to trace my family tree back multiple generations on all sides but my maternal maternal side, no native. Though my mom tells me of the "Cherokee princess" being my 3rd great grandmother, seems unlikely though that is the one line I have not traced as much and she did have a detailed story of being a small girl who was not allowed on the reservation by the native men for her being racemixed. But seems unlikely. Either way, much appreciated.
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    Target: fh_scaled
    Distance: 1.6153% / 0.01615321
    30.0 Sweden_Oland
    20.2 Estonia_Saaremaa
    19.8 Denmark_Funen
    13.6 Sweden_Skara
    5.0 UK_Dorset_England
    4.2 Iceland_Hofstadir
    4.2 Sweden_Gotland
    3.0 Denmark_Jutland

    Distance to: fh_scaled
    0.02419328 Denmark_Jutland:VK328
    0.02673773 Denmark_Funen:VK319
    0.02747243 Norway_Nor_South:VK448
    0.03064175 Sweden_Oland:VK337
    0.03081933 Denmark_Funen:VK138
    0.03222236 UK_Dorset_England:VK256
    0.03276636 Iceland_Hofstadir:VK101
    0.03277938 UK_Orkney_Scotland:VK202
    0.03308915 Denmark_Funen:VK301
    0.03339604 Sweden_Skara:VK402
    0.03339863 UK_Oxford_England:VK173
    0.03355331 Russia_Ladoga:VK15
    0.03360906 Russia_Ladoga:VK218
    0.03378973 Sweden_Skara:VK34
    0.03403709 Sweden_Karda:VK266
    0.03432985 Sweden_Skara:VK42
    0.03456639 Denmark_Funen:VK370
    0.03461604 UK_Oxford_England:VK166
    0.03507549 Sweden_Gotland:VK477
    0.03542498 Denmark_Funen:VK134
    0.03586565 Denmark_Jutland:VK384
    0.03589808 Sweden_Oland:VK444
    0.03590001 Denmark_Funen:VK373
    0.03611834 Sweden_Oland:VK353
    0.03631022 Faroes_Faroes:VK241

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    Quote Originally Posted by White Swan View Post
    Thanks, that is interesting. I have been able to trace my family tree back multiple generations on all sides but my maternal maternal side, no native. Though my mom tells me of the "Cherokee princess" being my 3rd great grandmother, seems unlikely though that is the one line I have not traced as much and she did have a detailed story of being a small girl who was not allowed on the reservation by the native men for her being racemixed. But seems unlikely. Either way, much appreciated.
    You're welcome. Also X2 is not just Native American but quite widespread but it is definitely an interesting mtdna to have.

    Subclade X2 appears to have undergone extensive population expansion and dispersal around or soon after the Last Glacial Maximum, roughly 20,000 years ago. It is more strongly represented in the Near East, the Caucasus and southern Europe and somewhat less strongly present in the rest of Europe. The highest concentrations are found in the Ojibway (Canada) (25%), Sioux (USA) (15%), Nuu-Chah-Nulth (12%), Georgia (8%), Orkney (Scotland) (7%), and amongst the Druze Assyrian community in Israel (27%). Subclades of X2 are not present in native South Americans.[6] The oldest known archeological site associated with X2 is Kennewick Man, whose ca. 9000-year old remains were discovered in Washington State.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_X_(mtDNA)

    You might want to read what Eupedia say about it but there might be more recent information available online.

    https://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_X_mtDNA.shtml
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    Target: Vitez_newg25
    Distance: 1.1819% / 0.01181869
    25.0 Russia_Gnezdovo:VK254
    14.2 Sweden_Gotland:VK476
    12.2 Sweden_Gotland:VK474
    10.6 Denmark_Langeland:VK362
    8.4 Denmark_Langeland:VK286
    7.8 Sweden_Oland:VK336
    6.8 Sweden_Gotland:VK477
    6.2 Denmark_Langeland:VK287
    5.0 Denmark_Funen:VK314
    3.8 Russia_Pskov:VK159

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    Many of these "Vikings" were Slavic settlers in Scandinavia, hence the close distance.



    Target: cass
    Distance: 0.4608% / 0.00460834
    39.6 Sweden_Gotland
    21.4 Denmark_Langeland
    12.2 Sweden_Skara
    10.8 Sweden_Oland
    8.0 Poland_Sandomierz
    3.8 Poland_Cedynia
    2.6 Poland_Bodzia
    1.2 Denmark_Funen
    0.4 Russia_Gnezdovo


    Distance to: cass
    0.02550730 Denmark_Langeland:VK274
    0.02821699 Sweden_Gotland:VK473
    0.02942111 Sweden_Oland:VK443
    0.03009138 Sweden_Skara:VK397
    0.03085637 Denmark_Jutland:VK340
    0.03203234 Poland_Bodzia:VK156
    0.03230481 Denmark_Sealand:VK296
    0.03323410 Denmark_Sealand:VK294
    0.03336411 Sweden_Oland:VK358
    0.03369922 Estonia_Saaremaa:VK487
    0.03379199 Sweden_Oland:VK352
    0.03503182 Denmark_Langeland:VK287
    0.03507151 Russia_Ladoga:VK220
    0.03529460 Denmark_Langeland:VK290
    0.03582884 Sweden_Skara:VK309
    0.03620661 Poland_Bodzia:VK157
    0.03703450 Poland_Bodzia:VK154
    0.03723952 Denmark_Funen:VK279
    0.03724759 UK_Oxford_England:VK145
    0.03813521 Russia_Ladoga:VK221
    0.03815352 Russia_Ladoga:VK219
    0.03825710 Sweden_Skara:VK404
    0.03834457 Denmark_Funen:VK141
    0.03843631 Russia_Gnezdovo:VK272
    0.03895541 Denmark_Sealand:VK297
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    Added my own asian control with #

    Target: Jelliedsoup_scaled
    Distance: 1.1291% / 0.01129073
    21.0 UK_Orkney_Scotland:VK203
    10.0 Faroes_Faroes:VK244
    10.0 #CHN_Chuanyun_Historic_L5694
    9.6 UK_Orkney_Scotland:VK201
    8.4 Denmark_Jutland:VK322
    8.2 Greenland_Eastern_Settlement:VK190
    7.4 Faroes_Faroes:VK245
    5.6 #CHN_Huatuyan_500BP_HuatuyanNL04
    5.4 Sweden_Oland:VK350
    4.4 Denmark_Langeland:VK286
    2.6 #VNM_BA_Dong_Son_Culture_Vt781#
    2.4 Sweden_Gotland:VK435
    2.4 #Ami#
    1.4 #She#
    0.8 Poland_Cedynia:VK211
    0.4 #CHN_Balong_#1500BP_BalongKD06

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    Target: Rafael_scaled
    Distance: 5.6691% / 0.05669098
    69.8 Denmark_Langeland
    21.4 Sweden_Oland
    8.8 Denmark_Funen

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    Took out the UK samples.

    Distance to: Gannicus_mergedfile_scaled
    0.02557645 Norway_Nor_South:VK448
    0.02581361 Sweden_Oland:VK353
    0.02587663 Iceland_Hofstadir:VK101
    0.02623950 Denmark_Jutland:VK328
    0.02900993 Denmark_Funen:VK319
    0.02974348 Sweden_Skara:VK42
    0.03014772 Sweden_Oland:VK337
    0.03064581 Denmark_Langeland:VK285
    0.03112063 Russia_Ladoga:VK218
    0.03240151 Sweden_Gotland:VK429
    0.03247763 Sweden_Oland:VK333
    0.03267414 Sweden_Skara:VK403
    0.03285735 Iceland_Hofstadir:VK110
    0.03306326 Faroes_Faroes:VK236
    0.03307688 Denmark_Jutland:VK326
    0.03315175 Sweden_Karda:VK266
    0.03332475 Iceland_Hofstadir:VK102
    0.03334642 Sweden_Skara:VK402
    0.03388559 Denmark_Langeland:VK364
    0.03389767 Denmark_Jutland:VK324
    0.03391570 Denmark_Funen:VK280
    0.03401246 Sweden_Skara:VK40
    0.03455858 Denmark_Funen:VK138
    0.03483508 Sweden_Gotland:VK450
    0.03491037 Denmark_Sealand:VK315


    Target: Gannicus_mergedfile_scaled
    Distance: 0.0128% / 0.01277389 | R3P
    45.6 Sweden_Oland
    33.3 Sweden_Gotland
    21.1 Norway_Nor_South

    Target: Gannicus_mergedfile_scaled
    Distance: 0.0125% / 0.01254730 | R4P
    37.2 Sweden_Oland
    32.3 Sweden_Gotland
    16.1 Norway_Nor_South
    14.4 Denmark_Langeland

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    Target: Vessna_scaled
    Distance: 1.2502% / 0.01250182
    64.8 Sweden_Gotland
    25.0 Russia_Gnezdovo
    6.2 Sweden_Skara
    2.8 Russia_Kurevanikha
    1.2 Denmark_Langeland

    Distance to: Vessna_scaled
    0.02768565 Russia_Kurevanikha:VK160
    0.03102633 Denmark_Jutland:VK340
    0.03240899 Sweden_Gotland:VK474
    0.03306986 Poland_Cedynia:VK212
    0.03310749 Sweden_Skara:VK309
    0.03336163 Sweden_Gotland:VK438
    0.03491539 Denmark_Langeland:VK287
    0.03784596 Sweden_Skara:VK397
    0.03792116 Sweden_Gotland:VK473
    0.03854840 Russia_Gnezdovo:VK272
    0.03860370 Sweden_Gotland:VK452
    0.03887011 Sweden_Gotland:VK471
    0.03940994 Sweden_Gotland:VK475
    0.03972314 Poland_Sandomierz:VK494
    0.04081746 Poland_Bodzia:VK157
    0.04089895 Russia_Pskov:VK159
    0.04126650 Sweden_Gotland:VK454
    0.04176912 Sweden_Skara:VK395
    0.04189040 Poland_Bodzia:VK156
    0.04450387 Sweden_Oland:VK443
    0.04507307 Poland_Bodzia:VK154
    0.04531960 Poland_Bodzia:VK155
    0.04563255 Sweden_Gotland:VK457
    0.04675724 Sweden_Gotland:VK459
    0.04785500 Sweden_Oland:VK354

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    Using Averaged Official G25:

    Target: SC_Official_AVE_Scaled
    Distance: 2.0792% / 0.02079182 | ADC: 2x RC
    45.4 Iceland_Hofstadir
    31.2 Denmark_Funen
    23.4 Sweden_Oland


    Target: SC_Official_AVE_Scaled
    Distance: 1.3172% / 0.01317161

    33.2 Sweden_Skara
    16.4 Faroes_Faroes
    13.4 Sweden_Gotland
    11.2 Sweden_Oland
    9.6 Russia_Gnezdovo
    8.2 Iceland_Ingiridarstadir
    4.0 Denmark_Langeland
    3.2 Norway_Nor_South
    0.8 Russia_Pskov

    Target: SC_Official_AVE_Scaled
    Distance: 1.3396% / 0.01339603 | R5P
    40.4 Sweden_Skara
    19.6 Faroes_Faroes
    16.4 Sweden_Gotland
    13.2 Russia_Gnezdovo
    10.4 Iceland_Ingiridarstadir

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    23andMe brings me slightly more Eastern to Gnezdovo:


    Target: SC_PreUpdate_Official_23andMe_Scaled
    Distance: 1.7746% / 0.01774642 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    33.8 Sweden_Skara
    16.6 Russia_Gnezdovo
    13.4 Sweden_Gotland
    11.0 Iceland_Ingiridarstadir
    10.4 Faroes_Faroes
    7.8 Denmark_Langeland
    7.0 Sweden_Oland
    Target: SC_Ave_IllustrativeDNA
    Distance: 1.9100% / 0.01910033 | ADC: 1x RC
    44.6 Scottish_North-Highlands
    28.0 Dutch_Groningen
    27.4 Polish_Upper_Silesia

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