Albanian Illustrative DNA results

[Tenn]

So basically every time I remove Paeonian (or samples from ancient North Macedonia) on this I get around 60% Iron Age Illyrian. Samples from North Macedonia were similar to Illyrians from Albania.

[Tenn]

[Tenn]

Modern populations:

Fit: 0.858
2.
Greek (Central Macedonia)53.5%

Italian (Veneto)46.5%



Fit: 0.804

Greek (Central Macedonia)71.6%

Swiss (French)28.4%

[Jana]

Turns out you can change the settings on this thing, so with only 3 ancient populations gives me around 60% Illyrian:

manipulating the result thus irrelevant.

[Far_away]

manipulating the result thus irrelevant.

Thats right, just wanted to write this

[Far_away]

this is my results, way more illyrian than you never cared that much about this but man, you Albos are annoying with these who were here first and stuff. Stop creating hateful threads about Serbs and Slavs.
Have you no better things to do?

[Tenn]

Paeonian (750–100 BC)40.6%

Thracian (1100–200 BC)25.8%

Balto-Slavic (900–350 BC)21.6%

Anatolian (780–30 BC)9.2%

Phoenician (1000–330 BC)1.8%

Sarmatian (530–250 BC)1.0%

Using also samples from other parts of the Balkans gives much less Anatolian actually , here I got only 9% which in fact is much more realistic. they have seperated west balkan and east balkan but they have calculators for both.


So If I add Thracian and other stuff still gives Illyrian/Paeonian + Thracian and reduces Anatolian . Doesn't seem like Roman imperials had that much genetic impact, 20+% goes quickly down to 10% when other samples from the Balkans are added.

[Tenn]

manipulating the result thus irrelevant.

No, it is not called manipulation of the results as they are samples that overlap and are autosomally similar with the samples found in Albania. They have just been labeled as 'Paeonian' but were found in North Macedonia. This can be proven through PCA Map and Snps they share with other Western Balkan samples. They could be cousins based on the SNPS they share with West Balkan samples. Central Balkans was inhabited by an Illyrian or Thrako-Illyrian population too and where historically an Albanian population lived so part of the Albanian genome might of also originated there and not just in Albania. In Albania we only have J2b2 and R1b.
Not sure why you take this as me trying to manipulate things ? Linguists claim the Albanian language was spoken there too as the town name Scupi -> Shkup which was the Dardanian capital at one point.

The manipulation here is what you are doing where you claim that you are 45% Illyrian which you are obviously not since you barely get 35% Roman Illyria. Iron Age ancestry from such a population should be less compared to the Roman age.

this is my results, way more illyrian than you never cared that much about this but man, you Albos are annoying with these who were here first and stuff. Stop creating hateful threads about Serbs and Slavs.
Have you no better things to do?

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No, you are most definitely not more Illyrian. You're some I2a Slav while I'm J2b2. That calculator you used uses only samples from the Western Balkans. So of course it automatically assigns Illyrian. You need to use other samples or Roman Illyria and of course the Iron Age ancestry from such a population should be much less for you just like it is for her. She barely gets 35% Roman Illyria.

I get more Illyrian than you and I get more Roman Illyria and I get closer distance to the IA and my Y-DNa is actually J2b2. I don't care about Illyrian , I did not open this thread only for that . The Albanian language wasn't just spoken there but was spoken at the Thrako-Illyrian contact zone too.


Yes, Albos were most definitely here first, proven through genetics, language, y-dna (among Illyrians we got some of the most numerous Albanian lineages) etc and nowhere did I create hateful thread of Serbs. Linguists claim the Albanian language developed in these areas and there lived an Albanian population in these areas before Serbs. Taking this as an insult shows what a miserable loser you are.


Albos are mostly native Balkan with some smaller Roman Imperial + Slavic.

[Tenn]

The calc in you posted uses only Western Balkan samples. Use other samples of the Balkans. You'll see most of you people aren't that Illyrian. Your distances are crap too. My distances are better.


The samples in North Macedonoia which have been labeled as Paeonian overlap with Illyrians and it is what Central Balkan profiles
of Dardanians should look something similar.


Also the results of these calcs don't always reflect ancestry but rather the best fit.

[Tenn]

manipulating the result thus irrelevant.

Nope, that one isn't manipulating the results. Changing calculator settings isn't manipulation. The calculator looks for the best fit based on 3 ancient populations.


And again my distances to these popualtions are very good, your distances are crap.