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    Quote Originally Posted by Feiichy View Post
    This NDH state was just nominally indipenadant. That's why it has Indipendant in its name similarly like DR Congo has name "democratic" but is anything but democracy.

    It was dividend into German and Italian zone of influence, and Germans were exploiting raw material and and even people for forced work in Reich all the time. It wasn't allowed to have navy or sth like that due to deal with Italians if I am not mistaken.

    Ustaše had power tho and they were trying to get rid of this depandance especially on Italy in later stages of war.
    Still NDH had more sovereignty than Serbia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Östsvensk View Post
    The average Swede is pretty xenophobic and racist. Even the elites and leftists who advocate for mass immigration don't want to live in diverse areas full of Mideastern and Zoomali Muslims.

    The only time Swedes were allowed to vote on immigration was that one time in Sjöbo in the 1980's. The majority voted against, and since then there has never been a vote on it.
    I heard Swedes treated Finns like lower race until recently. Let's not even mention how Saami were treated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feiichy View Post
    Don't forget Ljotićevci who were actual nazis, togheder with Nedićevci but them you already mentioned.
    I was saving amunition.

    As i said biggest problems with Serbs is ortodoxy culture, that represses all critical tought.
    For instance people wont to protest against injustice or corruption in government, Serb president himself clandestinely hires hulligans to make trouble pretending to be one of them, so he can go scott free, like see, these people are bunch of hulligans.

    Critical thinking is very repressed in Serbia, it all gets changed to fit the narrative all the time, issues are not talked about, but rather there is always some kind of external enemy that takes the blame.
    For instance, kid, 8 year old, a little psycho, makes a plan how to kill bunch of his classmates on a fucking piece of paper, has a map, footnotes, and even has contingency that he is to young to be incarcerated, does the shit, kills bunch of kids.
    And at first it is a great misery, president addreses the public, and after the while massive protests start against violent culture in Serbia.
    What do media write?
    "Croats were only ones who didnt feel sad about dead Serbian children"

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    Quote Originally Posted by ugochaves View Post
    Foreigners are very different. Foreigners are either Europeans or non-Europeans. Which foreigners do you mean? I noticed that we perceive nationalism differently. Russians tend to pan-European nationalism (for me there is a big difference between a German and a Turk). Inside Croatia, you preach more national rural nationalism. For example, you do not perceive Eastern Europeans as your own or Serbs.
    Serbs in Croatia were pretty well integrated until late 19th/early 20th century. Melody of Croatian anthem was written by local orthodox guy

    Svetozar Borojević only Austro Hungarian field marshal of Slavic origin in WW1 was a Croatian patriot and he came from orthodox family. There are many more examples.

    Rakovac rebellion Croatian nationalists started against Austrians was supported by local Serbs.

    Things were not always like in 20th century.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vandor View Post
    That's life, you have to balance. Partisans had truces with Italians as well. Actually lots of Serbian civilians were untouched in Banja Luka for example, due to deals between Chetniks and Ustase.
    Around Banja Luka ustashe committed some of the heaviest crimes against Serbian civilians in WW2. In villages Motike, Drakulić and Šargovac near Banja Luka on February 7, 1942 ustashe killed over 2300 local Serbian peasant and 551 of them were children https://ocpsociety.org/drakulic-vill...ms-remembered/

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    Ugo as for Germans I mean foreigners like non Germans including other whites. German women are not that open towards them from my experience.

    Even user rothaer who is German guy raised in Sweden said he wouldn't marry non German and I guess he meant Swedes too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Varda View Post
    Banat formally stayed part of (diminished) Serbia, but it was under the control of local Germans (Volksdeutsche).
    Danube Swabians wanted to create an own german state in the area, including romanian, hungarian ,serbian and croatian areas, but Hitler did not support that. He prefered rather good relationship with Romania, Hungary and Croatia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Varda View Post
    Still NDH had more sovereignty than Serbia.
    Yeah and still concentration camp in Zemum Sajmište was filled with Jews that were arrested by Serb Nedić Police even if it was run by Germans.

    Belgrade was first juden frei city in Europe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blondie View Post
    Danube Swabians wanted to create an own german state in the area, including romanian, hungarian ,serbian and croatian areas, but Hitler did not support that. He prefered rather good relationship with Romania, Hungary and Croatia.
    Banat is very interesting tho, it was some kind of SS state experiment.

    I am partly Banat Swabian and my grand-grandma brother was a local nazi who after the war escaped to Canada. He died with Hitler picture under his pillow.

    Germans there were extreme nazis for some reason. Btw this guy from my family was only half German. Rest of his ancestry was Greek and most likely Hungarian.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feiichy View Post
    Yeah and still concentration camp in Zemum Sajmište was filled with Jews that were arrested by Serb Nedić Police even if it was run by Germans.

    Belgrade was first juden frei city in Europe.
    Sajmište was German concentration camp for Jews on the territory of Independent State of Croatia. Zemun and area of present day New Belgrade were parts of NDH in WW2.

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