Divison of Europe north/south or east/west?

[drb234]

If I had to bisect Europe it would be at the 50th parallel North.

Interesting map. My eyes are a mixture of grey and amber (mostly grey though). i wonder what they would be considered on the martin schultz scale

[catgeorge]

South Europeans are more hardline and conservative than the North in that sense we don't allow Islamic feifdoms in our domain. So agree with Rennaisance on that point entirely.

The Islamic Feifdoms in Europe should go to Scandinavia (oh wait, they already have)

...as I was saying.

[cyrus]

In light of the recent events, I think this is how Europe should be divided. Based on tolerance to homosexual relationships.

[renaissance12]

Earliest universities have nothing to do with "the West" though, so it's not really even a fitting criteria to define it by.
By far the oldest Universities are University of Al-Quaraouiyine (since 859, in Morocco) and University of Al-Azhar (since 970, in Egypt).

It really depends on how you define a university.

Modern universities, which are based on the medieval European universities, have certain features that ancient learning sites lacked, like granting formal diplomas and degrees, a set curricula of study, and a corporate organizational structure.

If your definition of a university requires all these features of a modern university, then neither Al-Quaraouiyine nor Al-Azhar qualify.

In some cases, a place might have some, but not all the features ( like Theology schools that existed long time ago )

Only the medieval European universities had all the features of a modern university, since as I said modern universities were patterned after them.

But centers of higher learning that had many, just not all, the features of a modern university existed long before University of Al-Quaraouiyine (since 859, in Morocco) and University of Al-Azhar (since 970, in Egypt).

If you go to Bologna you will still find the original building of the university built in the 11th century.. If you go to Morocco you will not find anything of the remains of the original MOSQUE (it was a Mosque where the IMAN studied.. If this is the method to qualify a university then the Church of San Pietro or San Vitale are the oldest Italian universities..)

At Bologna university all documents from the 11th century are kept.
Books, registers, accounts, exams, names of pupils and professors..

In MOROCCO mosquee ... ops university from 1963 ?

It should be remembered that until a few years ago no one remotely thought of qualifying these two "universities" ( Al-Quaraouiyine in Moroccoand University of Al-Azhar in Egypt) as the oldest in the world.. But we all know that the supporters of third world culture together with the supporters of woke culture are changing history.. and maybe they are erasing western culture..

[renaissance12]

At the same time St Petersburg is more like Barcelona than Petrozavodsk

St Petersburg is "Italian".

Don't you know it ?

[renaissance12]

Ireland has many things in common with many European countries and links also but historically and genetically Ireland's strongest links are with Britain be it good or bad. The fact that Ireland is in the EU and Britain is not will mean that Ireland will lessen somewhat ties to Britain.

Never forget what IRISH monks did in Europe..

[Etelfrido]

Both divisions make sense, I don't think one could necessarily be said to be much more prominent than the other.

[Etelfrido]

If I had to take an educated guess it is more East/West but there is still an element of racism among NorthWest and Northern Euros towards southerners.

Which is funny, as Italy's a EU net contributor and Spain fares better than more northern countries like Belgium, Luxembourg, Poland, Czechia and the Baltic countries.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1632/i...21e6/image/816
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1632/i...6eae/image/816
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South Europeans are more hardline and conservative than the North in that sense we don't allow Islamic feifdoms in our domain. So agree with Rennaisance on that point entirely.

The Islamic Feifdoms in Europe should go to Scandinavia (oh wait, they already have)

...as I was saying.

Unfortunately I've seen some grim scenes even from Southern European countries but I hope you resist it enough because I doubt Europe will see another Martel or Pelagius.

[Zohor]

St Petersburg is "Italian".

Don't you know it ?

Ok, but it doesn't change much into my argument that mentality of people and modern architecture in bigger cities all over Europe is very alike

[Sheppey]

South Europeans are more hardline and conservative than the North in that sense we don't allow Islamic feifdoms in our domain. So agree with Rennaisance on that point entirely.

The Islamic Feifdoms in Europe should go to Scandinavia (oh wait, they already have)

...as I was saying.

That is sacrilegious mate ! I hereby declare a fatwa on Wogs ! :

David Wulstan Myatt[a] (born 1950), also known by the pseudonym Abdulaziz ibn Myatt al-Qari,[4] is a British author, religious leader, far-right and former Islamist militant,[1][2][3] most notable for allegedly being the political and religious leader of the White nationalist theistic Satanist organization Order of Nine Angles (ONA) from 1974 onwards.[1][2][3] He is also the founder of Numinous Way[5][6][7] and a former Muslim.[7]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Myatt