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[renaissance12]

The inventors are the ones who materialised it. A few sketches on a piece of paper does not make an invention, so the credit goes to the Northerners, because they actually did it,

Volta has invented ( and materialised it ) the condenser..... so every electrical instruments with a condenser is a VOLTA INVENTION.. ( the resistence is not an invention )

Great.. great..

[Your Old Comrade]

Who invented the piston ... the connecting rod.. the ball bearing.. the screw...tha camshaft...the valves.. ( and the wheel....)

You are a confused boy... you don't know the difference between invention and application..

Not at all confused. The real invention lies in the application of the concept.

[Your Old Comrade]

Volta has invented ( and materialised it ) the condenser..... so every electrical instruments with a condenser is a VOLTA INVENTION..

Great.. great..

Wrong, numbnuts. He invented the condenser and applied it. That's it. The rest builds on it and was invented by others. It's very typical of the two classical civilisations, that they came up with the principle and then sat on their arse for centuries while the Northerners then went on, applied the whole thing and then created a whole slew of other things around it. Italy and Greece peaked 2000- 2500 years ago, and Italy managed it again 600 years ago. After that? Nothing.

[renaissance12]

Wrong, numbnuts. He invented the condenser and applied it. That's it. The rest builds on it and was invented by others. It's very typical of the two classical civilisations, that they came up with the principle and then sat on their arse for centuries while the Northerners then went on, applied the whole thing and then created a whole slew of other things around it. Italy and Greece peaked 2000- 2500 years ago, and Italy managed it again 600 years ago. After that? Nothing.

You are really very ignorant too.

Maybe it's not your fault that you didn't study physics or mathematics.

To formulate the theory of general relativity, Einstein needed a mathematics that would allow him to formulate it.

This math is tensor calculus.! . Invented by the Italian Ricci Gregorio ( Padua ) in 1900.

Einstein had to enlist the help of Ricci's pupil, Tullio Levi-Civita, to give mathematical form to his revolutionary physical ideas.

Without Ricci's newly invented tensor calculus, Einstein would not have formulated his general theory of relativity.

All the letters that Tullio Levi Civita and Einstein exchanged are kept in the museum of the University of Padua.
That math later enabled Albert Einstein to develop his theory of general relativity.
Einstein traveled to Padua to meet Ricci and Civita.
Unlike the infinitesimal calculus, tensor calculus allows presentation of physics equations in a form that is independent of the choice of coordinates on the manifold.

Introduction to Tensor Calculus for General Relativity: Massachusetts Institute of Technology Department of Physics

https://web.mit.edu/edbert/GR/gr1.pdf


https://pubs.aip.org/physicstoday/on...icci-Curbastro

[Manuel]

Venetian architecture style in the begining was influenced by gothic style ( that derives from italian romanesque style ) and than from Byzantine and Moorish styles..

In other words is a mix of gothic byzantine and moorish styles

Tell me something about Greece contribution ( any kind ) in the last 2000 years..

To start with:
Your entire religion, you animal. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_...nical_councils <-- all of them took place in the Greek-speaking world.- ALL.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church...#Greek_Fathers

It's curious you didn't answer me: those horses Venetians looted from Constantinople and placed on the church in your avatar, were those "ItAlIaN" too? and what the hell are you talking about? St Mark's IS copied from Byzantine architecture even if in part. To ask me therefore whAt hAvE gReEkS DoNe iN 2000 YeArZ? when you have the name Renaissance (Renaissance of what? Roman AND GREEK learning -> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_...he_Renaissance), St Mark's with its stolen sculptures from the "Greeks", and CHRISTIAN on your profile is laughable.,

Another ridiculous, delusional nationalist. But at least others may have a point. For an Italian to speak like this...disgusting.

[renaissance12]

To start with:
Your entire religion, you animal. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_...nical_councils <-- all of them took place in the Greek-speaking world.- ALL.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church...#Greek_Fathers

It's curious you didn't answer me: those horses Venetians looted from Constantinople and placed on the church in your avatar, were those "ItAlIaN" too? and what the hell are you talking about? St Mark's IS copied from Byzantine architecture even if in part. To ask me therefore whAt hAvE gReEkS DoNe iN 2000 YeArZ? when you have the name Renaissance (Renaissance of what? Roman AND GREEK learning -> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_...he_Renaissance), St Mark's with its stolen sculptures from the "Greeks", and CHRISTIAN on your profile is laughable.,

Another ridiculous, delusional nationalist. But at least others may have a point. For an Italian to speak like this...disgusting.

Jesus spoke in aramaic..and he was under the thumb of roman law..

I ask you again: What did the Greeks -like you - do in the last 2000 years.... Just a curiosity...( Maria Callas - Demis Roussos - Vangelis- Onassis.... and then ? )

Pantheon in Rome: 90% Roman and 10% Greek.

The Romans were the first builders in the history of architecture to realize the domes for the creation of large and well-defined interior spaces.

And the byzantine style is well known for the roman dome and not for the simple greek columns.




Pantheon is a miracle of the engineering because of the dome not because the columns in front

[Manuel]

Jesus spoke in aramaic..

I ask you again: What did the Greeks -like you - do in the last 2000 years.... Just a curiosity...( Maria Callas - Demis Roussos - Vangelis- Onassis.... and then ? )

Pantheon in Rome: 90% Roman and 10% Greek.

The Romans were the first builders in the history of architecture to realize the domes for the creation of large and well-defined interior spaces.

And the byzantine style is well known for the roman dome and not for the simple greek columns.




Pantheon is a miracle of the engineering because of the dome not because the columns in front

Christianity's fundamental building blocks were provided in the First seven ecumenical councils. The creed you recite in Church was written in those dirty Greek letters. The entire New Testament too. Without those, there'd be no Christianity at all.

You're an NPC spamming the same question. I provided you with a huge list of things which not only involve Greeks of fewer than 2000 years ago in the development of Christianity but in the whole Western culture including the very thing you have on your name you dumbass. It'd be funny if it wasn't so sad for someone like you to talk like this.

And let's get things clear here: I am not the one questioning Roman or Italian contributions. So you don't need to sell me the Pantheon. It's you who questions Greek contributions.

[renaissance12]

Christianity's fundamental building blocks were provided in the First seven ecumenical councils. The creed you recite in Church was written in those dirty Greek letters. The entire New Testament too. Without those, there'd be no Christianity at all.

You're an NPC spamming the same question. I provided you with a huge list of things which not only involve Greeks of fewer than 2000 years ago in the development of Christianity but in the whole Western culture including the very thing you have on your name you dumbass. It'd be funny if it wasn't so sad for someone like you to talk like this.

And let's get things clear here: I am not the one questioning Roman or Italian contributions. So you don't need to sell me the Pantheon. It's you who questions Greek contributions.

Ok... Tell me something about Greece contribution ( any kind ) in the last 1500 years..

I know very well that the ancient Romans considered the Greeks as the only worthy among all the peoples of Europe and the Mediterranean bacine and middle east

I know very well that many Greek scholars took refuge in Italy making a significant contribution to the birth of the Renaissance.. but alas.. none of them reached the high peaks in the artistic and scientific fields (except El Greco?)

[Cristiano viejo]

Spain ? Spain was not involved in the II world war..
So you can't say a word about spaniard soldiers..

Seriously man...

I know very well that the ancient Romans considered the Greeks as the only worthy among all the peoples of Europe and the Mediterranean bacine and middle east

Romans appreciated the culture of Tartessos but I see you ignore it.

[renaissance12]

Seriously man...



Romans appreciated the culture of Tartessos but I see you ignore it.

Maybe.. give me more details please..


Roman nobles and patricians admired Greece and Greek culture. I only know Roman emperors who worshiped Greek culture while I don't know Roman emperors who worshiped other cultures of conquered peoples.
Ancient Roman Horace wrote: Graecia capta ferum victōrem cepit / Captive Greece conquered her savage victor.


Everyone knows that the ancient Romans weren't so interested in philosophy..

They were interested in the army in conquest and to pay the high cost of the army they needed new conquests and many taxes and an excellent public administration and a legal system efficient and a great net of roads..