Independent Kurdistan: would you support it?

[Mejgusu]

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I don’t want to say anything against Assyrians and you are right about Kurdish crimes. I am doing a lot of research about Assyrians because they are very interesting. But Erdoganist Turkish state, terrorists like daesh or failed states like Iraq are dangerous, causing a lot of problems and are worse than Kurdistan.

[Demirkazık]

I am not hostile toward you or hate you at all, I am just pointing out historical facts. Believe me I don't have any ill feeling toward Turks.

Maybe I misunderstood, I must be honest, I don't know whether the Ottomans are responsible for the Assyrian genocide or Kurds. Since the inter-tribal land war between Kurds and Assyrians back then, I always thought that the Kurds had a greater share in it. Without our involvement, the results would have been approximately the same. This may sound childish and irresponsible, I'm sorry if it is. But it's what I think on this subject. I'm open for different views on this issue and we can discuss it.
Regardless of their origins even as a Turk I don't consider Ottoman dynasty as Turks (Since my English is lacking, I can't explain what I'm really trying to say here) Their dynasty and it's elites had a multi-layered ethnic origin, they killed more Turks than they killed the Christian population of Anatolia.

Seljuks were not from originally in Anatolia when Mongols invaded West Asia, but they were actually part of the Mongol/Tatar federation. Seljuks came to West Asia because of the vacuum left by the Mongols and were actually of Tatar stock.

You fucking imbecile gypsy, Seljuk Beg was part of the Khazar Khaganate and served in the Khazar horde, then they migrated to Khwarazm, to the city of Jand, where they were under the influence of Islam, and rapidly migrated towards Khorasan then to Anatolia. "Mongolian" Invasion happened 200 years later. Whom the fuck do you learn these type of bull shit... Also they were of TATAR stock ?

[chinshen]

Maybe I misunderstood, I must be honest, I don't know whether the Ottomans are responsible for the Assyrian genocide or Kurds. Since the inter-tribal land war between Kurds and Assyrians back then, I always thought that the Kurds had a greater share in it. Without our involvement, the results would have been approximately the same. This may sound childish and irresponsible, I'm sorry if it is. But it's what I think on this subject. I'm open for different views on this issue and we can discuss it.
Regardless of their origins even as a Turk I don't consider Ottoman dynasty as Turks (Since my English is lacking, I can't explain what I'm really trying to say here) Their dynasty and it's elites had a multi-layered ethnic origin, they killed more Turks than they killed the Christian population of Anatolia.



You fucking imbecile gypsy, Seljuk Beg was part of the Khazar Khaganate and served in the Khazar horde, then they migrated to Khwarazm, to the city of Jand, where they were under the influence of Islam, and rapidly migrated towards Khorasan then to Anatolia. "Mongolian" Invasion happened 200 years later. Whom the fuck do you learn these type of bull shit... Also they were of TATAR stock ?

Peace, you did misunderstand my intentions as I misunderstood yours.

[Mejgusu]

You fucking imbecile gypsy, Seljuk Beg was part of the Khazar Khaganate and served in the Khazar horde, then they migrated to Khwarazm, to the city of Jand, where they were under the influence of Islam, and rapidly migrated towards Khorasan then to Anatolia. "Mongolian" Invasion happened 200 years later. Whom the fuck do you learn these type of bull shit ???

You are distorting my posting, you wrote something else than I wrote. People can click to my quote and see that I wrote something totally different, your behavior is psychopathic. I can’t respond to someone who is rewrite my postings and attack me basing on this distortions.

Thats your how you quoted me:

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Thats what I actually wrote:

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Distortions and insults don’t change historic facts, Mongolians committed suicide against many people, including Assyrians and Turks.

[Demirkazık]

You are distorting my posting, you wrote something else than I wrote. People can click to my quote and see that I wrote something totally different, your behavior is psychopathic. I can’t respond to someone who is rewrite my postings and attack me basing on this distortions.

Ulan şopar oğlu şopar, you've fucking edited it...

[Mejgusu]

Ulan şopar oğlu şopar, you've fucking edited it...

I didn’t, the member chinchen thankfully quoted me then, at 8:57 PM, you posted my distorted quote 9:39 PM. You actually revealed yourself as a liar.

[chinshen]

Maybe I misunderstood, I must be honest, I don't know whether the Ottomans are responsible for the Assyrian genocide or Kurds. Since the inter-tribal land war between Kurds and Assyrians back then, I always thought that the Kurds had a greater share in it. Without our involvement, the results would have been approximately the same. This may sound childish and irresponsible, I'm sorry if it is. But it's what I think on this subject. I'm open for different views on this issue and we can discuss it.
Regardless of their origins even as a Turk I don't consider Ottoman dynasty as Turks (Since my English is lacking, I can't explain what I'm really trying to say here) Their dynasty and it's

Ottomans are partially responsible for the Assyrian genocide in 1915, but you are correct the bulk of the responsibility falls on the Kurds since the genocide didn't start in 1915, but had been going on for at least two to three hundred years. I disagree with you that the results would have been the same, because the Kurds had a whole empire (Ottoman) backing them up while we were on our own and you saw the result.

[DomitiusAurelian]

I didn’t, the member chinchen thankfully quoted me then, at 8:57 PM, you posted my distorted quote 9:39 PM. You actually revealed yourself as a liar.

You've just edited your comment amk maymunu, you're blatantly lying have you got no fucking shame? Apparently you don't.

[Mejgusu]

You've just edited your comment amk maymunu, you're blatantly lying have you got no fucking shame? Apparently you don't.

It is obvious who is lying and who not. I didn’t changed anything, if I would have changed anything people would see that. The member demirkazik posted something which doesn’t make any sense, people who know me wouldn’t believe that this was posted by me. This is the first time I see people are falsifying postings of another member for trolling, but people can see who is lying and who isn’t.

[Demirkazık]

It is obvious who is lying and who not. I didn’t changed anything, if I would have changed anything people would see that. The member demirkazik posted something which doesn’t make any sense, people who know me wouldn’t believe that this was posted by me.

Tam tersini söylüyor bir de , Utanman yok mu la senin ?