Pannonian Cumans on G25

[Max18]

I've subtracted your ancestry. Shall I post your results here?

Hi, sorry to post here, but this is the most logical place for me to ask my question to you. Can you help with re-subtracting more refined coordinates of my father given that I now have my mother's coordinates?

[axlredneck]

Hi, sorry to post here, but this is the most logical place for me to ask my question to you. Can you help with re-subtracting more refined coordinates of my father given that I now have my mother's coordinates?

Sure!

[Max18]

Sure!

Great, thank you! Here are the coordinates: mine and my mother's

Max,0.127482,0.074134,0.057699,0.053295,0.018773,0 .011156,0.00611,0.010615,-0.001023,-0.01385,-0.000812,-0.007643,0.013677,0.008395,-0.005565,0.016971,0.017602,0.004814,0.001885,0.002 251,-0.008735,-0.003586,0.003821,-0.001084,-0.001078

Mother,0.12862,0.118817,0.064865,0.060401,0.034468 ,0.016455,-0.001175,0.014538,0.001227,-0.016401,-0.001949,-0.005995,0.007433,0.020506,-0.006379,0.006895,0.003129,0.000887,0.001634,0.002 876,-0.005615,-0.004822,0.003697,-0.005302,-0.000838

[axlredneck]

Great, thank you! Here are the coordinates: mine and my mother's

Max,0.127482,0.074134,0.057699,0.053295,0.018773,0 .011156,0.00611,0.010615,-0.001023,-0.01385,-0.000812,-0.007643,0.013677,0.008395,-0.005565,0.016971,0.017602,0.004814,0.001885,0.002 251,-0.008735,-0.003586,0.003821,-0.001084,-0.001078

Mother,0.12862,0.118817,0.064865,0.060401,0.034468 ,0.016455,-0.001175,0.014538,0.001227,-0.016401,-0.001949,-0.005995,0.007433,0.020506,-0.006379,0.006895,0.003129,0.000887,0.001634,0.002 876,-0.005615,-0.004822,0.003697,-0.005302,-0.000838

Max,0.127482,0.074134,0.057699,0.053295,0.018773,0 .011156,0.00611,0.010615,-0.001023,-0.01385,-0.000812,-0.007643,0.013677,0.008395,-0.005565,0.016971,0.017602,0.004814,0.001885,0.002 251,-0.008735,-0.003586,0.003821,-0.001084,-0.001078
Dad,0.110694272,0.027737438,0.059562602,0.037514493,0.002570019,0.003536709,0.005683376,0.006924021,-0.000942353,-0.011453192,0.004700426,-0.004622979,0.006831507,0.001221285,-0.005538976,0.007824069,0.008588201,0.000911873,0.00238831,0.001400608,-0.006005552,0.000257507,0.005283635,-0.001106255,-0.000574686
Mother,0.12862,0.118817,0.064865,0.060401,0.034468 ,0.016455,-0.001175,0.014538,0.001227,-0.016401,-0.001949,-0.005995,0.007433,0.020506,-0.006379,0.006895,0.003129,0.000887,0.001634,0.002 876,-0.005615,-0.004822,0.003697,-0.005302,-0.000838
Noise,7.953484,0.975598,-4.449936,4.3976545,0.2884585,1.1766005,3.854637,-0.1014725,-1.1640965,0.060695,-2.189662,-2.3400055,6.5521795,-2.4481365,0.387609,9.6183605,11.7465285,3.9154505,-0.124521,0.115572,-2.930339,-1.3085755,-0.6656205,2.1148255,-0.372495
Bulgar,0.0821894,-0.1176438,0.0666646,0.0449142,-0.0437611,-0.0043067,0.0025089,0.0057826,-0.0033294,-0.0212896,0.0102448,-0.003997,0.007036,-0.015112,0.0137359,0.016648,0.0001025,-0.0004505,-0.0026122,0.0036311,-0.0020258,0.0033915,0.0039346,-0.0001576,-0.0014664
Slavic,0.1352497,0.1232754,0.0776057,0.0706253,0.0405151,0.0254274,0.0121779,0.0147614,-0.004457,-0.02792,-0.002609,-0.0115698,0.0222445,0.0263872,-0.0143546,-0.0001896,0.0064087,-0.0003677,0.0043893,0.002762,-0.0046831,-0.0059803,0.0081327,-0.0067845,0.000193
Balkan,0.125205,0.148267,0.018102,-0.028101,0.029236,-0.016176,0.00141,-0.003231,0.008999,0.03262,0.005846,0.005095,-0.017691,-0.007844,-0.027551,0.003978,0.027772,0.005448,0.008547,-0.004877,-0.015473,0.004204,0.003328,0.006025,-0.00012

[Max18]

Basically, very similar results to the previous one. But there are more Balkans

[Leto]

Great job on this thread as well as the previous ones! I would like to share my results based on your sources: Slavic, Finnic, Ugric, Early Bulgar (from Danubian Bulgar thread), Caucasus, Balkan, Cuman. I'm half russian with german ancestry and half volga tatar. My Y-DNA is J2-M92.
Target: Max_scaled
Distance: 2.7895% / 0.02789530
68.0 Slavic
20.8 Bulgar
11.2 Balkan

How much East Eurasian/Mongoloid do you score on average? I used to be well up on GEDmatch calculators but now they've largely fallen out of use, so it seems. I scored like 6-7% and I'm Belorussian and Russian (my mother is from Vyatka).

[Ugo]

How much East Eurasian/Mongoloid do you score on average? I used to be well up on GEDmatch calculators but now they've largely fallen out of use, so it seems. I scored like 6-7% and I'm Belorussian and Russian (my mother is from Vyatka).

Если ты 6-7, сколько наберёт твоя половина? 14-20% монголоидов? Ты не белый

[Leto]

Если ты 6-7, сколько наберёт твоя половина? 14-20% монголоидов? Ты не белый

Stop following me, you stupid son of a gun! I already guess who you are. You can't forgive a person for some bullshit comment made on the Internet years ago. Very sad!

[Max18]

How much East Eurasian/Mongoloid do you score on average? I used to be well up on GEDmatch calculators but now they've largely fallen out of use, so it seems. I scored like 6-7% and I'm Belorussian and Russian (my mother is from Vyatka).

Hi, I'm gaining ~8% on average (that is, I'm gaining between ~6% and ~10% in different tests). This basically matches my results on FTDNA in their ancientOrigins section:
18%
Metal Age Invader
35%
Farmer
39%
Hunter-Gatherer
8%
non-European.

Also you can check your results here: https://www.exploreyourdna.com/calcu...kapuscinsk.htm This calculator has a pretty good selection of ancient samples. Here are my results:
Target: Max_scaled
Distance: 3.9733% / 0.03973299 | ADC: 0.25x RC
38.8 West_Eurasian:Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
34.0 West_Eurasian:TUR_Pinarbasi_HG_ZBC_IPB001
20.2 West_Eurasian:UKR_Meso
7.0 East_Eurasian:CHN_Amur_River_8300BP

What is interesting: my results in this calculator are very similar to the results of the Mordovians (Mordovian people are also the closest populations in terms of Euclidean distance).

[Leto]

Hi, I'm gaining ~8% on average (that is, I'm gaining between ~6% and ~10% in different tests). This basically matches my results on FTDNA in their ancientOrigins section:
18%
Metal Age Invader
35%
Farmer
39%
Hunter-Gatherer
8%
non-European.

Also you can check your results here: https://www.exploreyourdna.com/calcu...kapuscinsk.htm This calculator has a pretty good selection of ancient samples. Here are my results:
Target: Max_scaled
Distance: 3.9733% / 0.03973299 | ADC: 0.25x RC
38.8 West_Eurasian:Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
34.0 West_Eurasian:TUR_Pinarbasi_HG_ZBC_IPB001
20.2 West_Eurasian:UKR_Meso
7.0 East_Eurasian:CHN_Amur_River_8300BP

What is interesting: my results in this calculator are very similar to the results of the Mordovians (Mordovian people are also the closest populations in terms of Euclidean distance).

Thanks, that's interesting. 8% on average is not a lot for that kind of ethnic background, I guess your mother is close to zero East Eurasian/Mongoloid and some Tatars are below 20% without any recent Russian admixture. I believe Mishars are like 15-17% or so. You must be nearly indistinguishable from full ethnic Russians in terms of looks.