G25: Are you closer to EEF, Yamnaya or other ancient populations?

**Beowulf** · 10-21-2023, 04:48 PM

Target: Beowulf_Scaled
Distance: 0.0330% / 0.03304997
50.5 EEF
38.1 Yamnaya
10.5 WHG
0.9 Iberomaurusian

Father:

Target: Papa_Scaled
Distance: 0.0411% / 0.04110980
54.7 EEF
30.6 Yamnaya
12.3 WHG
2.4 Iberomaurusian

Mother:

Target: Mama_Scaled
Distance: 0.0295% / 0.02946634
45.4 EEF
40.6 Yamnaya
13.7 WHG
0.3 Iberomaurusian

Maternal grandma:

Target: Abuela_Scaled
Distance: 0.0342% / 0.03424008
50.3 EEF
38.3 Yamnaya
10.4 WHG
1.0 Iberomaurusian

Maternal grandfather:

Target: Abuelo_Scaled
Distance: 0.0313% / 0.03134082
43.0 Yamnaya
42.0 EEF
15.0 WHG

**~~sarmsaksogan~~** · 10-21-2023, 04:55 PM

Target: sarmsaksogan_scaled(Kurdish)
Distance: 4.8077% / 0.04807655
31.8 Iran_Neolithic
29.0 EEF
15.8 Natufian
12.0 CHG
11.4 Yamnaya

Distance to: sarmsaksogan_scaled(Kurdish)
0.18856905 CHG
0.19581080 Iran_Neolithic
0.21060824 EEF
0.22754639 Yamnaya
0.23290106 Natufian
0.26408474 Dravidian
0.36027584 EHG
0.39195519 SHG
0.44335388 Iberomaurusian
0.47592712 WHG
0.49161897 Beringian
0.60182229 Rudnaya
0.68054637 Indigenous_South_American
0.74288766 Sub-Saharan

**Nurzat** · 10-21-2023, 04:59 PM

Distance to: Nurzat_dad
0.15961034 Yamnaya
0.21800030 EEF
0.25521482 EHG
0.26076241 SHG
0.26398755 CHG
0.28831528 Natufian
0.31040987 Iran_Neolithic
0.32589045 Dravidian
0.35327498 WHG
0.47368032 Iberomaurusian
0.47381217 Beringian
0.59707191 Rudnaya
0.67332626 Indigenous_South_American
0.76729032 Sub-Saharan

Distance to: Nurzat
0.16348015 Yamnaya
0.20469493 EEF
0.25789325 CHG
0.26476472 EHG
0.26925411 SHG
0.28515190 Natufian
0.30577185 Iran_Neolithic
0.32463064 Dravidian
0.35950682 WHG
0.47153721 Iberomaurusian
0.47933282 Beringian
0.60245992 Rudnaya
0.67741781 Indigenous_South_American
0.76517277 Sub-Saharan

Target: Nurzat_dad
Distance: 5.5744% / 0.05574423
40.8 Yamnaya
40.2 EEF
14.2 SHG
2.6 EHG
1.2 Rudnaya
1.0 Natufian

Target: Nurzat
Distance: 4.4723% / 0.04472335
43.6 EEF
42.6 Yamnaya
12.6 SHG
0.6 EHG
0.6 Rudnaya

when I remove SHG and EHG:

Target: Nurzat_dad
Distance: 5.7327% / 0.05732681
49.6 Yamnaya
38.0 EEF
9.8 WHG
1.6 Rudnaya
1.0 Natufian

Target: Nurzat
Distance: 4.5909% / 0.04590898
48.8 Yamnaya
42.2 EEF
8.2 WHG
0.8 Rudnaya

**noricum** · 10-21-2023, 05:15 PM

Distance to: G25noricum_scaled
0.16579327 Yamnaya
0.21888721 EEF
0.25584285 SHG
0.25761644 EHG
0.27719376 CHG
0.29577846 Natufian
0.32465625 Iran_Neolithic
0.33879351 Dravidian
0.34441752 WHG
0.47989935 Iberomaurusian
0.49139951 Beringian
0.61777032 Rudnaya
0.68725070 Indigenous_South_American
0.77462777 Sub-Saharan

**Katarzyna** · 10-21-2023, 07:02 PM

Target: Katarzyna_AncestryDNA(real)
Distance: 5.9745% / 0.05974488
41.2 Yamnaya
31.8 EEF
27.0 SHG

Yeah, the SHG makes total sense. I also look like a Baltic HG

**Nurzat** · 10-21-2023, 07:51 PM

Originally Posted by Katarzyna

Target: Katarzyna_AncestryDNA(real)
Distance: 5.9745% / 0.05974488
41.2 Yamnaya
31.8 EEF
27.0 SHG

Yeah, the SHG makes total sense. I also look like a Baltic HG

I wonder why even us Romanians score it though, see me and my dad's result above. I thought it was already present in the Yamnaya, so that we have it from Yamnaya and not directly from Scandinavian HG, but the Yamnaya result below doesn't show it.

Target: Yamnaya
Distance: 5.8723% / 0.05872252
56.8 EHG
36.6 CHG
6.6 EEF

Target: SHG
Distance: 2.9897% / 0.02989695
53.8 WHG
44.4 EHG
1.8 EEF

by this it looks legit for more southern peoples that score SHG to remove it and allow for WHG and EHG instead, then our higher Yamnaya % when we remove SGH seems valid.

btw, what is your distance to Yamnaya, btw? I am curious is Poles are closer or farther than Romanians to Yamnaya - I see Austrians are father, even though just a tiny bit. funny to think Romanians are closer to Yamnaya/PIE/Aryans

**sage** · 10-21-2023, 08:07 PM

Originally Posted by Nurzat

I wonder why even us Romanians score it though, see me and my dad's result above. I thought it was already present in the Yamnaya, so that we have it from Yamnaya and not directly from Scandinavian HG, but the Yamnaya result below doesn't show it.

Target: Yamnaya
Distance: 5.8723% / 0.05872252
56.8 EHG
36.6 CHG
6.6 EEF

Target: SHG
Distance: 2.9897% / 0.02989695
53.8 WHG
44.4 EHG
1.8 EEF

by this it looks legit for more southern peoples that score SHG to remove it and allow for WHG and EHG instead, then our higher Yamnaya % when we remove SGH seems valid.

btw, what is your distance to Yamnaya, btw? I am curious is Poles are closer or farther than Romanians to Yamnaya - I see Austrians are father, even though just a tiny bit. funny to think Romanians are closer to Yamnaya/PIE/Aryans

I wonder how southern romanians score on this ?

**Mr. M** · 10-21-2023, 08:13 PM

Target: majevica_scaled
Distance: 5.1037% / 0.05103722
46.4 EEF
36.8 Yamnaya
16.6 SHG
0.2 EHG

Without SHG and EHG

Target: majevica_scaled
Distance: 5.2874% / 0.05287368
44.6 EEF
44.6 Yamnaya
10.8 WHG

Distance to: majevica_scaled
0.17658398 Yamnaya
0.19863007 EEF
0.26791007 SHG
0.26822456 CHG
0.27191291 EHG
0.28131710 Natufian
0.31360329 Iran_Neolithic
0.33277233 Dravidian
0.35408931 WHG
0.47579843 Iberomaurusian
0.48525837 Beringian
0.60884092 Rudnaya
0.67918696 Indigenous_South_American
0.76716746 Sub-Saharan

**Rafael Passoni** · 10-21-2023, 08:27 PM

Target: me_scaled
Distance: 3.3569% / 0.03356936
61.6 EEF
31.4 Yamnaya
4.4 WHG
1.8 CHG
0.8 Natufian

Distance to: me_scaled
0.13330526 EEF
0.22567303 Yamnaya
0.24463996 Natufian
0.26601464 CHG
0.31692374 Iran_Neolithic
0.32606053 SHG
0.33597582 EHG
0.34439926 Dravidian
0.39570672 WHG
0.45825639 Iberomaurusian
0.51336075 Beringian
0.62284562 Rudnaya
0.70161810 Indigenous_South_American
0.76957030 Sub-Saharan

**Katarzyna** · 10-21-2023, 08:50 PM

Originally Posted by Nurzat

I wonder why even us Romanians score it though, see me and my dad's result above. I thought it was already present in the Yamnaya, so that we have it from Yamnaya and not directly from Scandinavian HG, but the Yamnaya result below doesn't show it.

Target: Yamnaya
Distance: 5.8723% / 0.05872252
56.8 EHG
36.6 CHG
6.6 EEF

Target: SHG
Distance: 2.9897% / 0.02989695
53.8 WHG
44.4 EHG
1.8 EEF

by this it looks legit for more southern peoples that score SHG to remove it and allow for WHG and EHG instead, then our higher Yamnaya % when we remove SGH seems valid.

btw, what is your distance to Yamnaya, btw? I am curious is Poles are closer or farther than Romanians to Yamnaya - I see Austrians are father, even though just a tiny bit. funny to think Romanians are closer to Yamnaya/PIE/Aryans

Here is the Polish average, and below is me.

Distance to: Polish
0.14923420 Yamnaya
0.23018777 SHG
0.23240214 EHG
0.24497744 EEF
0.27868731 CHG
0.31299387 Natufian
0.32796159 WHG
0.33138722 Iran_Neolithic
0.34331166 Dravidian
0.48120409 Beringian
0.48772176 Iberomaurusian
0.61168607 Rudnaya
0.67905153 Indigenous_South_American
0.77518632 Sub-Saharan

Distance to: Katarzyna_AncestryDNA(real)
0.14559861 Yamnaya
0.22194610 SHG
0.22446732 EHG
0.25410205 EEF
0.28335882 CHG
0.32161487 Natufian
0.32226999 WHG
0.33597370 Iran_Neolithic
0.34679635 Dravidian
0.47911342 Beringian
0.49211151 Iberomaurusian
0.61087110 Rudnaya
0.67836813 Indigenous_South_American
0.77414289 Sub-Saharan