G25: Are you closer to EEF, Yamnaya or other ancient populations?

[Ugo]

EDIT: After SHG is a mixture of WHG and EHG and does not correspond (pre) historically to anything in reality for non-Scandinavians it should be removed. Also, it seems to wrongly shrink Yamnaya as it provides another alternative for the Yamnaya EHG to be assigned if you also happen to have enough WHG for that SHG mixture. EHG in this calculator may be understood as "extra EHG" considering that Yamanaya consists of EHG something like 60%. If you get this you will in reality simply hail more from northern IE speakers from the forest steppe belt neighbouring Yamnaya in the north which had somewhat more EHG in their mixture than had Yamnaya proper. I then get this:

Target: rothaer_scaled
Distance: 4.5798% / 0.04579807
45.6 Yamnaya
34.8 EEF
15.4 WHG
4.2 EHG

In G25, EHG cannot be used next to the pit culture. The calculator does not understand where the pit component is, where EHG/SHG is. qpAdm calculates like this

[rothaer]

In G25, EHG cannot be used next to the pit culture. The calculator does not understand where the pit component is, where EHG/SHG is. qpAdm calculates like this

It looks more that qpAdm can not calculate properly when E(E)HG is involved. In your pic, when EEHG shows up, the pit grave culture component (Yamnaya) is often dissolved in EEHG and Krasnojarsk Krai BA. This doesn't happen in the G25 calculator in question a single time. But it would maybe happen if you provided CHG separately (which is here not done).

[Ugo]

It looks more that qpAdm can not calculate properly when E(E)HG is involved. In your pic, when EEHG shows up, the pit grave culture component (Yamnaya) is often dissolved in EEHG and Krasnojarsk Krai BA. This doesn't happen in the G25 calculator in question a single time. But it would maybe happen if you provided CHG separately (which is here not done).

Why do we need chg separately? This is a 100% pit component. Europeans have very little of it, so it completely dissolves in the pit culture. In order for the result to become more reliable, and there was no conflict with EHG, it is better to use cordware early in the G25. But in any case, I trust the qpAdm tool, which is used by professionals, more than amateur G25 calculators.

[Abaddon]

It looks more that qpAdm can not calculate properly.

If qpAdm cannot do it, then G25 much less.

[Annihilus]

Target: annihilus_g25_sim
Distance: 3.1083% / 0.03108296
39.4 EEF
29.0 Yamnaya
15.6 CHG
8.0 Iran_Neolithic
7.2 Natufian
0.8 Rudnaya

[Annihilus]

Target: annihilus_v2_scaled
Distance: 2.7445% / 0.02744465
40.6 EEF
27.0 Yamnaya
15.8 CHG
7.0 Natufian
6.4 Iran_Neolithic
2.0 Rudnaya
1.2 EHG

[sacha]

SSA

Distance to: Sacha_scaled
0.14334425 EEF
0.18863189 Natufian
0.24900998 CHG
0.26931783 Iran_Neolithic
0.28074268 Yamnaya
0.33027703 Dravidian
0.40175909 EHG
0.40921432 SHG
0.43400344 Iberomaurusian
0.47806097 WHG
0.53188072 Beringian
0.62641383 Rudnaya
0.71387674 Indigenous_South_American
0.75395266 Sub-Saharan

[Kess]

Distance to: kesseras_simulated_g25_scaled
0.16795380 CHG
0.18580373 Yamnaya
0.21357463 EEF
0.21414643 Iran_Neolithic
0.25883738 Natufian
0.26087748 Dravidian
0.32060101 EHG
0.35456844 SHG
0.44531107 WHG
0.45276661 Iberomaurusian
0.45599989 Beringian
0.56688523 Rudnaya
0.65608863 Indigenous_South_American
0.74468006 Sub-Saharan

[Kazimiera]

48.8 Yamnaya
32.2 EEF
9.6 SHG
7.8 WHG
1.6 Sub-Saharan


0.14082706 Yamnaya
0.23381838 EHG
0.23625542 SHG
0.23986818 EEF
0.26802280 CHG
0.30358532 Natufian
0.31761976 Iran_Neolithic
0.32788252 Dravidian
0.33127667 WHG
0.47190603 Beringian
0.47196889 Iberomaurusian
0.60358354 Rudnaya
0.67185129 Indigenous_South_American
0.75416963 Sub-Saharan

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48.8 Yamnaya
32.2 EEF
9.6 SHG
7.8 WHG
1.6 Sub-Saharan


0.14082706 Yamnaya
0.23381838 EHG
0.23625542 SHG
0.23986818 EEF
0.26802280 CHG
0.30358532 Natufian
0.31761976 Iran_Neolithic
0.32788252 Dravidian
0.33127667 WHG
0.47190603 Beringian
0.47196889 Iberomaurusian
0.60358354 Rudnaya
0.67185129 Indigenous_South_American
0.75416963 Sub-Saharan

1.6% is very interesting.