Final Realistic Iberian Calculator

**Solitude** · 10-22-2023, 10:13 PM

Target: celtiville_scaled
Distance: 1.6578% / 0.01657762
27.8 Iberia_BA
16.4 Volta–Niger
13.8 Germanic_Ruler
9.8 Amerindian_BRA_LapaDoSanto_9600BP
9.8 Pre-Proto-Celts
9.6 Bantu-East
5.4 Imperial_Romans
4.0 Berbers_&_Guanches
3.4 Phoenicians_of_Iberia

**Solitude** · 10-23-2023, 12:15 AM

Originally Posted by Jingle Bell

Yea, but we need keep in mind that the Celts which came in Iberia were mostly Urnfiled and Hallsttat, La Tene was the lastest waves

jingle bell what is difference between celts hallstatt , urnfiled between la tene? and what were first celts they was most genetically related to germans?

**Solitude** · 10-23-2023, 12:25 AM

urnfield was most related to germanics? why they score so much northwest europe?

**Jingle Bell** · 10-23-2023, 10:48 AM

Originally Posted by brunolord20

jingle bell what is difference between celts hallstatt , urnfiled between la tene? and what were first celts they was most genetically related to germans?

Hallsttat and Urnfield seens pretty identical, a more central/sw euro profile, while La Tene is usually more North Euro like, prob bcs germanic contact
Hallsttats are the first "true celts", Urnfield werent exactly celt but more proto-celt like, and La Tene is culturally like Hallsttat but w some extern influences + druidism

**Solitude** · 10-23-2023, 05:35 PM

but why for example in this thread when i take a sample from urnfield and compare it with modern pop it seems almost totally nortwest , why? how la tene is most north euro?

example la tene sample :

Distance to:
Proto-Celts:AUT_IA_La_Tene:I11708
0.02565936 Italian_Aosta_Valley:Aosta8
0.02835332 Italian_Northeast:ALP081
0.02837114 French_Auvergne:C_80
0.02928983 French_Occitanie:T_53
0.03048622 French_Occitanie:T_87
0.03076591 Spanish_Penedes:ALE088
0.03159689 Italian_Trentino_Alto_Adige:ALP071
0.03164176 French_Auvergne:C_3
0.03184555 French_Occitanie:T_123
0.03193531 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona:ROI042
0.03217988 French_Provence:S_22
0.03220532 Swiss_French:Swiss_French7
0.03250209 Italian_Trentino_Alto_Adige:Nei27
0.03250866 Spanish_Catalunya_Central:CAR048
0.03280815 Italian_Northeast:ALP220
0.03287639 Italian_Veneto:KF1803105
0.03289198 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona:GUS202
0.03298207 French_Nord:N_28
0.03303558 French_Alsace:A_26
0.03313159 Italian_Aosta_Valley:Aosta9
0.03328398 Italian_Northeast:KF1803129
0.03340535 Spanish_Castello:CAR023
0.03362546 French_Auvergne:C_13
0.03366517 Italian_Northeast:ALP354
0.03367180 French_Alsace:A_49

urnfield sample
Distance to

re-Proto-Celts:Urnfield:CZE_LBA_Knoviz:I20526
0.02775509 Welsh:WalesBK58
0.02918187 French_Brittany:Rennes_B_1
0.03193083 German_Erlangen:GSM1658617
0.03261787 German_Erlangen:GSM1658641
0.03286180 French_Occitanie:T_119
0.03344035 BelgianC:5434289075_R04C02
0.03361483 German_Erlangen:GSM1658642
0.03385001 German:German41
0.03397452 BelgianA:5434289001_R01C01
0.03410036 BelgianA:5434289041_R03C02
0.03431861 Dutch:GSM1633998
0.03442214 French_Alsace:A_81
0.03442999 Afrikaner:AFR094
0.03455004 French_Pas-de-Calais:French25068
0.03463206 BelgianB:5434289003_R01C01
0.03473206 English_Cornwall:HG00264
0.03480293 French_Nord:N_19
0.03487375 French_Occitanie:T_33
0.03500305 French_Alsace:A_25
0.03502476 Dutch:GSM567335
0.03561617 French_Brittany:Rennes_B_16
0.03563548 BelgianC:5434289075_R01C01
0.03565772 Dutch:GSM1633976
0.03621708 Afrikaner:AFR053
0.03624585 French_Nord:N_80_2

**Rafael Passoni** · 10-23-2023, 06:30 PM

Target: caesarsalad_scaled
Distance: 1.5853% / 0.01585288
49.8 Greeks_Colonies/Romans
14.8 Germanic_Ruler
13.0 Proto-Celts
12.4 Iberia_BA
6.2 Pre-Proto-Celts
3.8 Imperial_Romans

Distance to: caesarsalad_scaled
0.03503220 Greeks_Colonies/Romans:Greco:GRC_Helladic_MBA:Log02
0.04699442 Imperial_Romans:ITA_Ardea_Latini_IA:RMPR851
0.04882775 Greeks_Colonies/Romans:ITA_Prenestini_tribe_IA_o:RMPR437b
0.04913503 Imperial_Romans:ITA_Rome_Latini_IA:RMPR1016
0.04937280 Proto-Celts:AUT_IA_La_Tene:I11701
0.05118013 Imperial_Romans:ITA_Etruria_Imperial:ETR001
0.05373513 Proto-Celts:CZE_IA_Hallstatt:I14980
0.05772012 Proto-Celts:AUT_IA_La_Tene:I11708
0.06129177 Greeks_Colonies/Romans:Greco:Greco-Micenei:Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2:I8215
0.06286549 Proto-Celts:AUT_IA_La_Tene:I11699
0.06364957 Greeks_Colonies/Romans:Greco:Greco-Micenei:GRC_Mycenaean:I9033
0.06619805 Greeks_Colonies/Romans:Greco:Greco-Micenei:GRC_Mycenaean:I9041
0.06875894 Phoenicians_of_Iberia:Iberia_Ibiza_Punic:MS10614
0.06968457 Pre-Proto-Celts:Urnfield:CZE_LBA_Knoviz:I15041
0.07034100 Pre-Proto-Celts:Urnfield:CZE_LBA_Knoviz:I13795
0.07183112 Iberia_BA:Iberia_Formentera_MBA:I4420_all
0.07218878 Pre-Proto-Celts:Urnfield:CZE_LBA_Knoviz:I13793
0.07240293 Pre-Proto-Celts:Urnfield:CZE_LBA_Knoviz:I13798
0.07244788 Iberia_BA:Iberia_BA:Iberia_North_BA:I2471
0.07384024 Iberia_BA:Iberia_Mallorca_EBA:I4329
0.07397057 Pre-Proto-Celts:Urnfield:CZE_LBA_Knoviz:I13788
0.07416502 Iberia_BA:Iberia_BA:Iberia_Southeast_BA:I8570
0.07521785 Greeks_Colonies/Romans:Greco:Greco-Micenei:GRC_Mycenaean:I9006
0.07561165 Greeks_Colonies/Romans:ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR69
0.07695167 Pre-Proto-Celts:Urnfield:CZE_LBA_Knoviz:I20517

**Jingle Bell** · 10-24-2023, 01:22 AM

Originally Posted by brunolord20

but why for example in this thread when i take a sample from urnfield and compare it with modern pop it seems almost totally nortwest , why? how la tene is most north euro?

example la tene sample :

Distance to:
Proto-Celts:AUT_IA_La_Tene:I11708
0.02565936 Italian_Aosta_Valley:Aosta8
0.02835332 Italian_Northeast:ALP081
0.02837114 French_Auvergne:C_80
0.02928983 French_Occitanie:T_53
0.03048622 French_Occitanie:T_87
0.03076591 Spanish_Penedes:ALE088
0.03159689 Italian_Trentino_Alto_Adige:ALP071
0.03164176 French_Auvergne:C_3
0.03184555 French_Occitanie:T_123
0.03193531 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona:ROI042
0.03217988 French_Provence:S_22
0.03220532 Swiss_French:Swiss_French7
0.03250209 Italian_Trentino_Alto_Adige:Nei27
0.03250866 Spanish_Catalunya_Central:CAR048
0.03280815 Italian_Northeast:ALP220
0.03287639 Italian_Veneto:KF1803105
0.03289198 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona:GUS202
0.03298207 French_Nord:N_28
0.03303558 French_Alsace:A_26
0.03313159 Italian_Aosta_Valley:Aosta9
0.03328398 Italian_Northeast:KF1803129
0.03340535 Spanish_Castello:CAR023
0.03362546 French_Auvergne:C_13
0.03366517 Italian_Northeast:ALP354
0.03367180 French_Alsace:A_49

urnfield sample
Distance to

re-Proto-Celts:Urnfield:CZE_LBA_Knoviz:I20526
0.02775509 Welsh:WalesBK58
0.02918187 French_Brittany:Rennes_B_1
0.03193083 German_Erlangen:GSM1658617
0.03261787 German_Erlangen:GSM1658641
0.03286180 French_Occitanie:T_119
0.03344035 BelgianC:5434289075_R04C02
0.03361483 German_Erlangen:GSM1658642
0.03385001 German:German41
0.03397452 BelgianA:5434289001_R01C01
0.03410036 BelgianA:5434289041_R03C02
0.03431861 Dutch:GSM1633998
0.03442214 French_Alsace:A_81
0.03442999 Afrikaner:AFR094
0.03455004 French_Pas-de-Calais:French25068
0.03463206 BelgianB:5434289003_R01C01
0.03473206 English_Cornwall:HG00264
0.03480293 French_Nord:N_19
0.03487375 French_Occitanie:T_33
0.03500305 French_Alsace:A_25
0.03502476 Dutch:GSM567335
0.03561617 French_Brittany:Rennes_B_16
0.03563548 BelgianC:5434289075_R01C01
0.03565772 Dutch:GSM1633976
0.03621708 Afrikaner:AFR053
0.03624585 French_Nord:N_80_2

La Tene seens pretty average, but Urnfield seens kinda northern shifted, have u some average?

**Solitude** · 10-24-2023, 12:42 PM

i got these samples here , i don't know where i can get more samples

**Solitude** · 10-24-2023, 04:17 PM

do you know how to interpret my results from this calc? what ancient ancestry i have?

Target: eindhein_scaled
Distance: 1.6576% / 0.01657599
28.0 Iberia_BA
16.4 West-Bantu
13.8 Germanic_Ruler
9.8 Amerindian_BRA_LapaDoSanto_9600BP
9.6 Bantu-East
9.6 Pre-Proto-Celts
5.6 Imperial_Romans
4.2 Berbers_&_Guanches
3.0 Phoenicians_of_Iberia

**Jingle Bell** · 11-04-2023, 10:40 PM

Originally Posted by brunolord20

do you know how to interpret my results from this calc? what ancient ancestry i have?

Target: eindhein_scaled
Distance: 1.6576% / 0.01657599
28.0 Iberia_BA
16.4 West-Bantu
13.8 Germanic_Ruler
9.8 Amerindian_BRA_LapaDoSanto_9600BP
9.6 Bantu-East
9.6 Pre-Proto-Celts
5.6 Imperial_Romans
4.2 Berbers_&_Guanches
3.0 Phoenicians_of_Iberia

Looks prty much average Iberian, the Germanic its eating part of ur celtic but despite hat nothing rly uncommon