Actual Importance of Haplogroups

[Kess]

It affects looks but around 20% so no distinctive look but to explain my point, it is not accurate to say that there is a distinctive R appearance, but the facts speak for themselves. The Y chromosome constitutes 2% of the entire genome, which implies that you share about 1.9% to 2% of your DNA with members of the same haplogroup, making you almost second cousins. You have thousands of mutations in common with people from your haplogroup, and blue eyes only require 2 mutations .

The Y chromosome has 58 million base pairs that contain no junk DNA. The SRY gene that determines male characteristics and activates testes has only 1000 base pairs, representing 0.01% of the Y chromosome itself. It is a very small gene, and some people assume that the rest is irrelevant. You share a common ancestor with others who belong to your haplogroup.

Ethnic nationalism is a fallacy, and it entails rejecting haplogroup. In the past, there were tribes and R1b was one of them. They originated from Central Asia and migrated to Western Europe. If they were not patriarchal and tribal, you would find many R1b’s in Slavic countries, which is not the case. They moved as a collective. Yamnayas, Bell Beakers were all patriarchal, so R1b reflects that. They intermarried with local women and had offspring, etc. So we can say that R1b is like a sort of “family” .

Those who claim that haplogroup is irrelevant are wrong. You can only make such a claim if you ignore the genetic similarities that you share with other members of your haplogroup, as the Original poster did, who is Jewish and only considers matrilineal descent. However, this does not hold for some haplogroups that were patriarchal. If you are a J1, you have a second cousin level of DNA with most J1’s.

An African American R1b is closer to a French R1b than a Swedish I1. Again they share the same grandfather, they have 2% in common making them close to second cousins and have multiple mutations in common. There’s no denying this. How much could the French share with the Swede? 0.01%? What’s the point of pca charts? People will claim well he’s R1b that doesn’t make him European or white, but of course it doesn’t. Because European and White mean nothing genetically and holds no weight. The African or Mexican R1b is closer to other R1b’s genetically like a type of family. Remove ethnic nationalism from the equation because it’s useless.

Pfffff.

In short, please European R1b people accept me as your own because I have R1b y-dna.

[Kess]

Here is a quotation which sums up the whole haplogroup thing.

"Haplogroups don't really have an effect on your immediate traits, really they just show an ancient ancestor in either your direct female lineage or male lineage. There are traits associated with haplogroups, simply because they were dominant in certain areas of the world. For example, the most common haplogroups in Europe are R1A and R1B, simply because thousands of years ago these were the dominant males who had the most children, and so on. They are direct male ancestors, from father to son, same goes for female haplogroups, which are inherited directly from mother to daughter. Hope that sort of helped your conception of haplogroups, and just to reiterate, haplogroups have no affect on your traits. Only your recent ancestors do, their autosomal DNA is the DNA you're looking for. For simplicity sake, you can just look at your recent family and see if they have similar traits, like hair color and other features."

[Abti]

She will just say that G is the best.

If G are so good. Why did I men replace them in Europe.

[Abti]

G knows how to hit her G spot

Wait a minute.. women don’t have a g spot!?!

[Kess]

An African American R1b is closer to a French R1b than a Swedish I1.

You blow Vjatych out of water in terms of trolling and being a circus clown. At least I am sure he doesn't deny dinosaurs existed.

[Kess]

If G are so good. Why did I men replace them in Europe.

Ask Katarzyna.

[Abti]

Ask Katarzyna.

No I obviously asked you.

[Kess]

No I obviously asked you.

I don't know. That's why I said ask Katarzyna.

[Touijer]

You blow Vjatych out of water in terms of trolling and being a circus clown. At least I am sure he doesn't deny dinosaurs existed.

Denying facts? What are your arguments? You have none.

Most haplogroup deniers are either clueless, women or hate their haplogroup for some reason

The fact is you are close to second cousins and share close to 2% with everyone in your haplogroup, share the same grandfathers.

The African and French R1b's I mentioned come from the same tribe or family which was patriarchal. I don’t know about your haplogroup but that’s the case here and even if it wasn’t patriarchal genetically they are very close to each other like cousins. You can’t deny that. Which brings me back to my main point:

A French R1b is closer to an African-American R1b than to a Swedish I1. Your country has like 9 haplogroups so of course you’re denying since you don’t want to break the fragile Turkish nationalistic identity which is recent and has no weight .

[Katarzyna]

Just because something is less spread doesn’t mean it’s good. Quality over quantity. When I talk about which haplogroup is best I talk about who subjectively fits for me as a partner to breed with.
Of course Y-haplogroups only carry an insignificant amount of DNA but they are still very special because the Y-chromosome is very special. Unlike the other chromosomes it doesn’t recombine much during the meiosis and therefore haplogroups can be traced back many generations. I think reproduction is one of the ultimative goals of life and keeping your bloodline alive. So as a woman you have to choose your partner’s haplogroup wisely. While the autosomal dna can be washed out after just a couple of generations, the Y-DNA can linger for very long. That’s how Finnish people share their haplogroup N with northern Asians while their autosomal DNA is almost fully European. Because those N-males married white women for generations but yet.. their Y chromosome remains

So I want to give my bloodline a meaningful haplogroup and I think that R1a, R1b and N can’t really satisfy it.