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Huh? No one can 'exalt themselves' to the Heavens. That's the problem with why you fail to understand Christianity and always try to see it through the lens of New Ageism. Sure you can do many things to improve your life, but you're still a sinner, if you murder someone you're still a murderer, the murder doesn't get undone, you trying to atone for your sins humanly (which sin is a much much much bigger deal to an infinitely pure being than a sinful human being) is like a child murderer trying to make up with 5$ and a greetings card. That's the whole point of why God took the sins of the world (for those who accept it) because it's not humanely possible to erase sin no matter what you do, ever, it's only something God can do.
Perhaps you do not like the idea of God because you are afraid of what he might say about you on judgement day so you mitigate the fear by saying that God isn't actually God but some kind of mystical concept or force instead of a personal being. Or you have some mistaken perceptions about God, I also had them, thinking the God of the Bible was out there wanting to make my life miserable or was a slave master. Not sure if this applies to you or not, it's not true, God wants relationship and he understands our weaknesses, he is not some maniacal cruel slave master. God's essence is love (but you cannot love goodness if you do not hate what rapes/abuses goodness, this is why God absolutley hates sin). What problem do you have Christianity? Almost all the time someone is resistant to Christianity as you are is an emotional problem at the core (nothing wrong with that, we are not robots after all, saying all human emotions are invalid sounds like a pretty gross farce to me).
We do not wish you go to Hell at all, it's mentioned as a way of saying that sin exists and there is no all-grey morality (aka subjective morality aka no morality) but that there is a good and evil and right and wrong, children understand that instinctively, and so do most humans who choose to not suppress their conscience. Loki brings up demons because there are many things that proove God's existence, love, which I try to focus on, but also demonic encounters and the supernatural is very solid proof that God and the Bible are true, as Loki usually speaks about, God can use many different things to speak to people's hearts about his existence.
I do not like this new age ideology, it all always gave me vain 'fluff' vibes like vanishing distant illusion that isn't really even much appealing tbh, even when I was not a Christian.
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But aren’t we back into the mental concepts here again …. & who is and who isn't conceptually ‘right’?
The Protestants being ‘right’ are assured to go to Heaven because of their Faith & belief in Grace.
The Catholics being iffy because they rely on Faith & their belief in Good Works.
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I had posted this video before as I loved this sermon on THE Light:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1e7j...OrthodoxChurch
The Light that permeates and illumines ALL – doesn’t divide. It cannot. And nobody, no thing can own it.
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You actually do have personal experiences.
Why did monks become monks..... mainly because at their young age while on prayer Jesus came into their dreams. From there it was life-mission longing of being closer to God because nothing else is valid.
Jesus has come into my dreams,my wifes dreams, my parents dreams... and this in essence is the next step of a Christians life.
Jesus doesn't come into your dreams unless you want him in there. But once he enters that realm of relationship it's stuck with you forever.
“For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.” Eph. 6:12
Definition of untrustworthy and loose character are those that don't believe in God.
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We should not trust the dreams, it's often the way devil deceives the people throwing them to the prelest. devil can easily take the picture of saints, Jesus Christ. Dreams should be taken neutrally. Who we are to be visited by Jesus Christ? That's the way we should think about ourselves. That's the guidances of Holy Fathers.
The elephants are heading South.
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“For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.” Eph. 6:12
Definition of untrustworthy and loose character are those that don't believe in God.
Orthodox seem to have a strong aversion to dreams which is fine because I've encountered many deceiving demons in dreams myself, but it is also written that in the end times the Lord will pour out his spirit on the world and young men will see visions and old men will dream dreams and prophesy.
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Both regular people and monks were deceived by demons in their dreams. There are even exact instructions by Holy Fathers how to react to such dreams, what to respond to the visitor, what to ask the visitor. Every of them should put the sign of Holy Cross over them by demand. Also, very few of us will calmly experience the presence of angels, by our unholiness and uncleanness most of us would be barely able to look at them.
The elephants are heading South.
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