Y-DNA distribution among ethnic Hungarians

[Kess]

Because two Russians with two different Y haplos can have ancestors from the same area having lived there for centuries. Am I supposed to relate more to Benjamin Netanyahu who is reportedly R1a (the Asian branch, a Jewish subclade) than my own hypothetical cousins (I've not tested anyone)? That's ludicrous. I love my Y DNA by the way, can even call myself a bit of an R1a supremacist but come on, that's not a genuine ethnic identity after all.

Are there Greek Orthodox Russians like you?

[Leto]

Are there Greek Orthodox Russians like you?

I am Eastern Orthodox, that's just the only Orthodox banner that exists here. But I don't mind it, Eastern Orthodoxy is still sometimes called Greek, especially in the Middle East (Rum).

[gixajo]

Tell me how a Russian R1a is closer genetically to a Russian I1 then a Polish R1a

I am a Spanish R1a, How am I going to share more with Leto just because he is R1a too than with any Spanish or Portuguese???

I have hundreds of matches (just with 12 markers) from Baltics, Russia, Poland, Czechia (practically all my Ydna matches are Baltics/Germanics/Slavics/Scandos) after doing my BIG Y, but not a single one of them appears as "relative" to me because we share a significant (or even minimally appreciable) part of of our genome on the whole.

Maybe even Leto is Ydna match of me in FTDNA, I have many Belarusians too.

[Touijer]

I have told you several times in various threads: that is not true. 1.5-2% is when you share the ENTIRE Y chromosome, what I share with another R1a-Z280 are a few dozen SNPs which is not even a hundredth of the TESTED information, a thousandth or less of the total information of the Y chromosome and one hundredth thousandth or even less of the total genetic information.

You’re confusing many things. You share with your father 100% of your Y DNA. Depending on the haplogroup and subclade you generally share 90% of Y chromosome with members of your haplogroup, but like I said it’s relative and could change depending of the haplogroup. You share plenty of SNP’s but not only share SNP’s, it includes genetic material aswell. R1a has 102 defining mutations. ChatGPT explains it well.

If it were as you say, I would have dozens of second and third cousins ​​in 23andme because I share Ydna, and that's not the case, I don't have A SINGLE ONE, not even a "fifth cousin" with that Ydna. In fact, I don't have any matches on 23andMe with my Ydna.

FTDNA checks your STR’s, not your SNP’s. It’s for finding very recent people with your haplogroup. Nowadays it’s SNP’s that are in use. 23&Me only use Autosomal chromosomes and the X chromosome, not Y. I will attach below from their website the disclaimer. If they included the Y chromosome everyone would have thousands of second or third cousins which would make the idea pointless, and it’s way more expensive to include Y Dna as well, it’s a commercial company after all.

[Touijer]

Because two Russians with two different Y haplos can have ancestors from the same area having lived there for centuries.

That’s a valid point however it’s not genetically wise but cultural wise. You imply they lived together for centuries and share the same culture. I’m talking genetically.

[gixajo]

You’re confusing many things. You share with your father 100% of your Y DNA. Depending on the haplogroup and subclade you generally share 90% of Y chromosome with members of your haplogroup, but like I said it’s relative and could change depending of the haplogroup. You share plenty of SNP’s but not only share SNP’s, it includes genetic material aswell. R1a has 102 defining mutations. ChatGPT explains it well.





FTDNA checks your STR’s, not your SNP’s. It’s for finding very recent people with your haplogroup. Nowadays it’s SNP’s that are in use. 23&Me only use Autosomal chromosomes and the X chromosome, not Y. I will attach below from their website the disclaimer. If they included the Y chromosome everyone would have thousands of second or third cousins which would make the idea pointless, and it’s way more expensive to include Y Dna as well, it’s a commercial company after all.

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Shut up please.

FTDNA check both things, and this doesn´t change the fact the genetic information I share with any other R1a is insignificant.

[Leto]

That’s a valid point however it’s not genetically wise but cultural wise. You imply they lived together for centuries and share the same culture. I’m talking genetically.

What I do imply is that they also share the same ancestry if they're both Russians from the same area. It's not only cultural in this case. They are ethnically close to one another.

[gixajo]

1556 SNPs in total, most of them shared with different haplogroups, things are not so simple as if I have CTS10168 positive all men that have CTS10168 have my haplogroup, in fact most of the individuals positive for most of the SNPs I am positive have not even have R1a.

Similar to CTS10168 (a random one among my positive SNPS) most of my positive SNPs, just some of them determine my haplogroup, and some few of the specifically my final clade.

All this specimens share that SNPs with me, and are not necessarily R1a...do you understand?


https://www.yfull.com/tree/P-P226/

To have an idea, the SNPs to determine my R1a-Z280 starts is the 1500 of these 1556...a simple R1a is in the 727th...

[Touijer]

Shut up please.

FTDNA check both things, and this doesn´t change the fact the genetic information I share with any other R1a is insignificant.

Wrong

[gixajo]

No you idiot. I don’t know why you’re ashamed of your ancestors. Showed you multiple facts with sources but you’re unable to understand, I can’t keep repeating the same stuff. Cuck mentality, what a pity.

Have you seen what I posted? You can see how many SNPs are involved in determining a final clade in a BIG Y,

And you still haven´t understand that you are wrong?

So it s you who doesn´t admit that is wrong not me.

And insulting?

I cannot do more for you.