Mixed people Gedmatch

**Ajeje Brazorf** · 12-25-2023, 11:02 PM

Originally Posted by Scarface F

I'm not sure, tbh. He looks very Caucasoid. Reminds me of Libyan guy I once met.

Do you know the person's name? This guy's name is Davide Montingelli.

Originally Posted by Flashball

50% Sardinian + 50% "Belgian" (with some speculative Danish/Nordic admix)
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 34.86
2 West_Med 32.15
3 Baltic 14.33
4 East_Med 13.81
5 West_Asian 3.02
6 Oceanian 1.02
7 Northeast_African 0.42
8 Sub-Saharan 0.39

Distance to: Sardinian/Belgian
3.62255435 Italy_IA_Republic:R851

Ave Imperator, morituri te salutant!

**Scarface F** · 12-25-2023, 11:04 PM

Originally Posted by Ajeje Brazorf

Do you know the person's name? This guy's name is Davide Montingelli.

No, than it's not him! I can't remember other guy's name but it was different. Interesting there are two people with same mix who we know.

**Flashball** · 12-25-2023, 11:20 PM

My brother (75% Northern French 25% Sardinian), nebula file:

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 40.32
2 West_Med 26.01
3 Baltic 14.53
4 East_Med 11.26
5 West_Asian 4.96
6 East_Asian 2.12
7 Red_Sea 0.47
8 Oceanian 0.32

Father + mother + my brother

**Flashball** · 12-25-2023, 11:42 PM

Friend (woman):
50% AriegeComminges

+ 38%NormandieParis

+ 12%Bavarian

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 45.99
2 Baltic 18.77
3 West_Med 18.73
4 East_Med 8.14
5 West_Asian 3.49
6 Red_Sea 1.64
7 South_Asian 0.89
8 East_Asian 0.87
9 Oceanian 0.77
10 Northeast_African 0.72

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 French 4.31
2 South_Dutch 5.09
3 West_German 6.31
4 Southeast_English 7.81
5 Southwest_English 8.42
6 Orcadian 10.3
7 Spanish_Cataluna 10.51
8 West_Scottish 11.19
9 Irish 11.22
10 North_Dutch 11.55
11 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 11.64
12 Danish 11.8
13 North_German 11.83
14 Spanish_Galicia 12.06
15 Portuguese 12.27
16 Southwest_French 12.33
17 Spanish_Cantabria 12.38
18 Spanish_Murcia 13.28
19 Spanish_Valencia 13.31
20 Austrian 13.45

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 60% Southeast_English + 40% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 1.25
2 61.3% Southeast_English + 38.7% Portuguese @ 1.27
3 60.9% Southeast_English + 39.1% Spanish_Galicia @ 1.27
4 52.4% Spanish_Cataluna + 47.6% North_Dutch @ 1.4
5 50.2% North_Dutch + 49.8% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 1.41
6 50.3% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + 49.7% Danish @ 1.43
7 53.6% North_Dutch + 46.4% Spanish_Valencia @ 1.45
8 64.5% Southeast_English + 35.5% Spanish_Extremadura @ 1.45
9 53.5% Danish + 46.5% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 1.47
10 63.3% Southeast_English + 36.7% Spanish_Murcia @ 1.53
11 54.9% North_German + 45.1% Spanish_Aragon @ 1.54
12 57.3% Spanish_Cataluna + 42.7% Norwegian @ 1.56
13 53.5% North_Dutch + 46.5% Spanish_Murcia @ 1.56
14 57.6% Southeast_English + 42.4% Spanish_Cataluna @ 1.56
15 54% North_Dutch + 46% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 1.57
16 52.9% Spanish_Cataluna + 47.1% Danish @ 1.59
17 54.5% Orcadian + 45.5% Portuguese @ 1.63
18 54.8% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + 45.2% Norwegian @ 1.63
19 53.1% Orcadian + 46.9% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 1.66
20 50.5% Orcadian + 49.5% Spanish_Cataluna @ 1.67

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Danish +50% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 1.328854

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% North_Dutch +25% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon +25% Spanish_Cataluna @ 1.202495

Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++
1 Norwegian + Southeast_English + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + Spanish_Cataluna @ 1.031722
2 French + Southeast_English + Southeast_English + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 1.066153
3 Danish + Orcadian + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + Spanish_Cataluna @ 1.083272
4 Danish + Spanish_Aragon + Spanish_Murcia + Swedish @ 1.091317
5 North_Dutch + Orcadian + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + Spanish_Cataluna @ 1.101030
6 Danish + Norwegian + Portuguese + Spanish_Aragon @ 1.130094
7 Norwegian + Southeast_English + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 1.172362
8 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + Spanish_Valencia + Swedish + West_Scottish @ 1.177383
9 Southwest_English + Spanish_Cataluna + Spanish_Murcia + Swedish @ 1.185976
10 French + Portuguese + Southeast_English + Southwest_English @ 1.186528
11 Spanish_Murcia + Spanish_Valencia + Swedish + West_Scottish @ 1.188068
12 Norwegian + Portuguese + Southwest_English + Spanish_Cataluna @ 1.188983
13 North_Dutch + North_Dutch + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + Spanish_Cataluna @ 1.202495
14 Danish + Norwegian + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + Spanish_Valencia @ 1.202506
15 Danish + Danish + Spanish_Aragon + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 1.202516
16 North_Dutch + Norwegian + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + Spanish_Valencia @ 1.205568
17 North_Dutch + North_Dutch + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + Spanish_Valencia @ 1.208348
18 Danish + Orcadian + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 1.219255
19 Danish + North_Dutch + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + Spanish_Valencia @ 1.220582
20 North_Dutch + Spanish_Aragon + Spanish_Murcia + Swedish @ 1.222245

# Population Percent
1 North_Sea 30.12
2 Atlantic 29.64
3 West_Med 13.9
4 Baltic 9.06
5 East_Med 7.1
6 Eastern_Euro 5.97
7 West_Asian 1.04
8 Red_Sea 0.92
9 Northeast_African 0.85
10 Oceanian 0.65
11 South_Asian 0.49
12 Southeast_Asian 0.26

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 French 5.37
2 South_Dutch 5.93
3 Southwest_English 7.37
4 Southeast_English 8.23
5 West_German 8.88
6 Spanish_Cataluna 10.22
7 Irish 10.25
8 North_German 10.7
9 West_Scottish 10.84
10 Spanish_Galicia 11.29
11 Danish 11.35
12 North_Dutch 11.44
13 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 11.53
14 Portuguese 11.75
15 Orcadian 11.86
16 Spanish_Murcia 12.59
17 Spanish_Extremadura 13.07
18 Spanish_Cantabria 13.27
19 East_German 13.88
20 Southwest_French 13.98

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 52.3% Spanish_Valencia + 47.7% West_Norwegian @ 2.36
2 61.1% Southeast_English + 38.9% Spanish_Murcia @ 2.49
3 55.8% Southeast_English + 44.2% Spanish_Cataluna @ 2.53
4 51.6% Spanish_Cataluna + 48.4% West_Scottish @ 2.57
5 59% Southeast_English + 41% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 2.66
6 59.5% Southeast_English + 40.5% Portuguese @ 2.69
7 52.5% North_Dutch + 47.5% Spanish_Murcia @ 2.7
8 53.9% West_Scottish + 46.1% Spanish_Murcia @ 2.7
9 50.8% Spanish_Aragon + 49.2% West_Norwegian @ 2.71
10 50.1% Spanish_Cataluna + 49.9% Irish @ 2.72
11 55.4% Irish + 44.6% Spanish_Murcia @ 2.77
12 53.6% Irish + 46.4% Portuguese @ 2.8
13 52.2% West_Scottish + 47.8% Portuguese @ 2.81
14 53% Spanish_Cataluna + 47% North_Dutch @ 2.82
15 52.8% Spanish_Cataluna + 47.2% Danish @ 2.83
16 64.4% Southwest_English + 35.6% Spanish_Murcia @ 2.85
17 55.5% North_Dutch + 44.5% Spanish_Valencia @ 2.86
18 55.3% Spanish_Murcia + 44.7% West_Norwegian @ 2.87
19 52.8% Danish + 47.2% Spanish_Murcia @ 2.87
20 60.8% Spanish_Cataluna + 39.2% West_Norwegian @ 2.91

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Spanish_Valencia +50% West_Norwegian @ 2.715961

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Spanish_Murcia +25% West_Norwegian +25% West_Scottish @ 2.612004

Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Spanish_Murcia + Spanish_Valencia + West_Norwegian + West_Scottish @ 2.460425
2 Irish + Spanish_Murcia + Spanish_Valencia + West_Norwegian @ 2.495074
3 Irish + Spanish_Murcia + Spanish_Murcia + West_Norwegian @ 2.568890
4 Spanish_Murcia + Spanish_Murcia + West_Norwegian + West_Scottish @ 2.612004
5 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + Spanish_Valencia + West_Norwegian + West_Scottish @ 2.627549
6 North_Dutch + Spanish_Aragon + Spanish_Murcia + West_Norwegian @ 2.629853
7 Danish + Spanish_Aragon + Spanish_Murcia + West_Norwegian @ 2.633065
8 Southeast_English + Spanish_Murcia + Spanish_Valencia + West_Norwegian @ 2.633690
9 Southeast_English + Spanish_Cataluna + Spanish_Murcia + West_Norwegian @ 2.634497
10 Spanish_Cataluna + Spanish_Valencia + West_Norwegian + West_Scottish @ 2.637181
11 Southeast_English + Spanish_Cataluna + Spanish_Valencia + West_Norwegian @ 2.639601
12 Irish + Spanish_Cataluna + Spanish_Valencia + West_Norwegian @ 2.649020
13 Irish + Spanish_Cataluna + Spanish_Murcia + West_Norwegian @ 2.653174
14 Orcadian + Spanish_Murcia + Spanish_Valencia + West_Norwegian @ 2.663712
15 Southeast_English + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + Spanish_Valencia + West_Norwegian @ 2.670329
16 North_Dutch + Spanish_Murcia + Spanish_Valencia + West_Norwegian @ 2.671308
17 Spanish_Aragon + Spanish_Murcia + West_Norwegian + West_Scottish @ 2.672961
18 Irish + Spanish_Aragon + Spanish_Murcia + West_Norwegian @ 2.686223
19 Southeast_English + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + Spanish_Murcia + West_Norwegian @ 2.686338
20 Southeast_English + Spanish_Murcia + Spanish_Murcia + West_Norwegian @ 2.693377

Target: Julie(50%AriegeComminges+38%NormandieParis+12%Bava rois)
Distance: 4.1594% / 0.04159403
45.8 TUR_Barcin_N
39.8 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
14.4 WHG

Julie(50%AriegeComminges+38%NormandieParis+12%Bava rois),0.126121,0.142145,0.053191,0.029273,0.044426 ,0.009130,0.002059,0.004445,0.013585,0.016962,-0.004597,0.006462,-0.014436,-0.011141,0.016571,0.002510,-0.008102,0.001121,0.000897,-0.001274,0.004214,0.001432,-0.001833,0.005649,0.000190

**Leto** · 12-26-2023, 11:40 AM

Originally Posted by Milkaner

Do I count as a half Northern Euro half Ashkenazi?

Here are my MDLP K23b results which have rather good distances:

Code:

Admix Results (sorted):
#	Population	Percent
1 	Caucasian 	32.31
2 	European_Hunters_Gatherers 	27.81
3 	European_Early_Farmers 	19.61
4 	Near_East 	6.38
5 	South_Central_Asian 	4.06
6 	Ancestral_Altaic 	3.66
7 	North_African 	3.58
8 	Tungus-Altaic 	1.06
9 	Austronesian 	0.96
10 	East_African 	0.37
11 	Australoid 	0.08
12 	Archaic_Human 	0.07
13 	African_Pygmy 	0.06

Code:

Single Population Sharing:

#	Population (source)	Distance
1 	Serb_Serbia ( ) 	4.35
2 	Montenegrian ( ) 	4.63
3 	Serb_BH ( ) 	5.79
4 	Croat ( ) 	5.85
5 	Bulgarian ( ) 	6.29
6 	Bosnian ( ) 	6.35
7 	Macedonian ( ) 	6.67
8 	Croat_BH ( ) 	7.23
9 	Hungarian_Budapest ( ) 	8.07
10 	Slovenian ( ) 	8.52
11 	Sicilian_West ( ) 	8.76
12 	Hungarian ( ) 	8.81
13 	Greek_Northwest ( ) 	9.31
14 	Ashkenazi_Jew ( ) 	9.65
15 	Czech ( ) 	9.93
16 	Sicilian_Trapani ( ) 	10.41
17 	Maltese ( ) 	10.43
18 	Greek_Peloponnesos ( ) 	10.87
19 	Romanian ( ) 	10.89
20 	Sicilian_Agrigento ( ) 	10.94

Code:

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

#	 	Primary Population (source) 	Secondary Population (source) 	Distance
1	  	57.9%	Romanian_Jew ( ) 	+ 	42.1%	Swede_Saami ( ) 	@ 	2.09
2	  	54.9%	Greek_Macedonia ( ) 	+ 	45.1%	Dane ( ) 	@ 	2.16
3	  	68%	Greek_Peloponnesos ( ) 	+ 	32%	Finn_West ( ) 	@ 	2.18
4	  	75.3%	Austrian ( ) 	+ 	24.7%	Christian_Arabs_Israel ( ) 	@ 	2.23
5	  	52.4%	Hungarian ( ) 	+ 	47.6%	Ashkenazi_Jew ( ) 	@ 	2.25
6	  	69.9%	Austrian ( ) 	+ 	30.1%	Cypriot ( ) 	@ 	2.26
7	  	61.5%	Ashkenazi_Jew ( ) 	+ 	38.5%	German ( ) 	@ 	2.32
8	  	56.8%	Greek_Macedonia ( ) 	+ 	43.2%	Swede ( ) 	@ 	2.37
9	  	51.5%	Italian_South ( ) 	+ 	48.5%	Swede_Saami ( ) 	@ 	2.38
10	  	54.8%	Hungarian_Budapest ( ) 	+ 	45.2%	Ashkenazi_Jew ( ) 	@ 	2.4
11	  	60.5%	Austrian ( ) 	+ 	39.5%	Cretan ( ) 	@ 	2.4
12	  	60.7%	Ashkenazi ( ) 	+ 	39.3%	Swede_Saami ( ) 	@ 	2.41
13	  	62.7%	Sicilian_Trapani ( ) 	+ 	37.3%	Russian-West ( ) 	@ 	2.44
14	  	53.3%	Slovenian ( ) 	+ 	46.7%	Ashkenazi_Jew ( ) 	@ 	2.46
15	  	53.4%	Sicilian_Trapani ( ) 	+ 	46.6%	Ukrainian_West ( ) 	@ 	2.46
16	  	61.9%	Austrian ( ) 	+ 	38.1%	Greek_Macedonia ( ) 	@ 	2.46
17	  	54.2%	Italian_Abruzzo ( ) 	+ 	45.8%	Belarusian-East ( ) 	@ 	2.49
18	  	61.8%	Italian_Abruzzo ( ) 	+ 	38.2%	Mordovian ( ) 	@ 	2.52
19	  	52.8%	Sicilian_Siracusa ( ) 	+ 	47.2%	Kashub ( ) 	@ 	2.54
20	  	51.3%	Greek_Macedonia ( ) 	+ 	48.7%	North_German ( ) 	@ 	2.54

I cluster around the intermediate area encircled a notable but not huge gap between Southern/Southeastern/Central Europe:

Do you see yourself as white? On the one hand the Jews are distinct from the ethnic Europeans but on the other hand you plot firmly inside Europe and about 75% of your ancestry is European.

**Flamingo** · 12-26-2023, 12:07 PM

Originally Posted by Flashball

My brother (75% Northern French 25% Sardinian), nebula file:

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 40.32
2 West_Med 26.01
3 Baltic 14.53
4 East_Med 11.26
5 West_Asian 4.96
6 East_Asian 2.12
7 Red_Sea 0.47
8 Oceanian 0.32

Father + mother + my brother

How the heck he got that high amount of East asian?

**Leto** · 12-26-2023, 06:48 PM

Originally Posted by Scarface F

True. Gypsies are his closest population as well, but with a very large distance because he is much more mongoloid than them, plus his Euro part is notably more northern.

Here are the 23andme results of a half Scottish, half Bengali man. However, his father is Scottish, not the other way around.
https://www.reddit.com/r/23andme/com...a_results_pic/
Probably can pass as Romani in the Balkans, I don't know.

**Flashball** · 12-26-2023, 06:52 PM

Originally Posted by Flamingo

How the heck he got that high amount of East asian?

Don't know. My parents have less than him and no Asian origin in my family. Maybe a proxy for another thing.

**Scarface F** · 12-26-2023, 06:53 PM

Originally Posted by Leto

Here are the 23andme results of a half Scottish, half Bengali man. However, his father is Scottish, not the other way around.
https://www.reddit.com/r/23andme/com...a_results_pic/
Probably can pass as Romani in the Balkans, I don't know.

he doesn't look overly Gypsy though, they usually have strong armenoid traits on top of south Asian. His features are robust and kinda northern but skin tone is exotic; I'd more likely guess Latino (like Mexican).

**Leto** · 12-26-2023, 09:06 PM

This person was born to a Lithuanian mother and a Syrian/Russian father (Syrian Muslim father, Russian mother from St. Petersburg).

Code:

North_Atlantic 22.09 Pct
Baltic 40.19 Pct
West_Med 6.67 Pct
West_Asian 8.38 Pct
East_Med 11.48 Pct
Red_Sea 4.01 Pct
South_Asian 1.57 Pct
East_Asian -
Siberian 2.22 Pct
Amerindian 0.7 Pct
Oceanian 0.67 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan 2.02 Pct

Code:

Gedrosia 7.23 Pct
Siberian 1.32 Pct
Northwest_African 0.77 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 17.18 Pct
North_European 50.19 Pct
South_Asian 0.59 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 6.65 Pct
East_Asian 0.86 Pct
Caucasus 13.67 Pct
Sub_Saharan 1.54 Pct