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    Yes.

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    Sorry, but you won't be able to re-invent the wheel here, OP.

    Robust f-statistics show the Iran_N/CHG is very real and comes with a little bit of ANF/PPN cherry on top.

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    Steppe 50-50 model: EHG (38% ANE) + CHG (25% ANE) total ~63.0% ANE.

    Steppe 85-15 model: EHG (64% ANE) + CHG (8% ANE) total ~72.0% ANE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abti View Post
    If they truly were 50% ANE how are udmirts getting 45% ANE despite the fact that they’re only 60-70% Yamnaya as a whole?
    Because Yamnaya/Kurgans were not the only ANE derived population around, Tarim Basin survived into the bronze age and were not indo Europeans, they were 3/4 ANE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abti View Post
    Steppe 50-50 model: EHG (38% ANE) + CHG (25% ANE) total ~63.0% ANE.

    Steppe 85-15 model: EHG (64% ANE) + CHG (8% ANE) total ~72.0% ANE.
    That's not how the math for admixture works.
    Let's say EHG was half ANE, and CHG was half ANE, then you're saying steppe would be 100% ANE? In other words, according to your logic if both my parents are biracial lightskins, I should be 100% black.

    The better way to do it would be to take what percentage is EHG, of that portion select the portions that are ANE (portion of a portion) and then do the same with CHG and add it up, not just do botched math like that, because of the example I gave above which clearly things don't work that way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HectorOfTroy View Post
    That's not how the math for admixture works.
    Let's say EHG was half ANE, and CHG was half ANE, then you're saying steppe would be 100% ANE? In other words, according to your logic if both my parents are biracial lightskins, I should be 100% black.

    The better way to do it would be to take what percentage is EHG, of that portion select the portions that are ANE (portion of a portion) and then do the same with CHG and add it up, not just do botched math like that, because of the example I gave above which clearly things don't work that way.
    That is exactly what I’ve done, Hector.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eupator View Post
    Sorry, but you won't be able to re-invent the wheel here, OP.

    Robust f-statistics show the Iran_N/CHG is very real and comes with a little bit of ANF/PPN cherry on top.
    Good, that’s what I’ve hoped for.

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    Aryans = Aneyans who spread that dna to other races.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HectorOfTroy View Post
    Because Yamnaya/Kurgans were not the only ANE derived population around, Tarim Basin survived into the bronze age and were not indo Europeans, they were 3/4 ANE.

    Tarim mummies have Yamnaya R-M12149 downstream clades.

    I have a couple of them upstream of mine on yfull.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eupator View Post
    Tarim mummies have Yamnaya R-M12149 downstream clades.

    I have a couple of them upstream of mine on yfull.

    Not all of them, there were some there that were of vastly different timelines, like Cherchen man is probably indo-european of sorts I think. The rest were not Indo European/Kurgan derived.

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