Post your ILLUSTRATIVE DNA results

[Katarzyna]

So many people post their results again. Did they update them or so? Ok, here are mine.

Bronze Age

Western Steppe (3300–2600 BC) 45.8%

European Farmer (6300–2800 BC) 31.2%

Baltic Hunter-Gatherer (5200–4200 BC) 23.0%

Iron Age

Balto-Slavic (900–350 BC) 53.6%

Germanic (AD 100–600) 28.4%

Thracian (1100–200 BC) 14.6%

Illyrian (750–200 BC) 2.6%

Central Siberian (2400–2000 BC) 0.8%

Migration Period

Slavic (AD 540–1100) 64.4%

Germanic (AD 100–630) 29.0%

Volga (AD 200–400) 6.6%

Medieval

Slavic (AD 540–1270) 77.0%

Germanic (AD 700–1000) 20.4%

Volga (AD 200–400) 1.6%

Balkans (AD 500–1000) 1.0%

[Mr. M]

Periodical Ancient Ancestry Breakdown - Western Balkans

Bronze Age

European Farmer (6300–2800 BC) 43.4%

Western Steppe (3300–2600 BC) 38.8%

Baltic Hunter-Gatherer (5200–4200 BC) 9.2%

Bronze Age Anatolian (3400–1500 BC) 8.6%

Iron Age

Paeonian (750–100 BC) 45.8%

Balto-Slavic (900–350 BC) 40.8%

Anatolian (780–30 BC) 13.4%

Migration Period

Slavic (AD 540–1100) 54.0%

Roman Illyria (AD 100–600) 46.0%

Middle Ages

Slavic (AD 540–1270) 52.6%

Balkans (AD 500–1000) 47.4%

[DarkoV]

You have very high Germanic input, but that is normal for NW Croats. Where are your 4 grandparents from, Zagorje?
here is how you compare with other Kajkavian-speaking Croats

Are they really Germans by origin?
My FTDNA results
Slavic 57%
Central Europe 8%
Zagorje and Turopolje.

Can you check how much your Kajkavian samples are connected to the Vikings and how much the average German and Croatian samples is linked to the Vikings? Thank you.

[rothaer]

Are they really Germans by origin?
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Can you check how much your Kajkavian samples are connected to the Vikings and how much the average German and Croatian samples is linked to the Vikings? Thank you.

I'm not the adressee, but I allow myself to comment: It's still unclear from where this substantial Germanic proportion in Kajkavian speakers comes. The fact that it's pretty evenly distributed suggests that it's an old contribution, so rather from Germanics (i. e. pre 800 AD) than from Germans (i. e. post 800 AD). I suspect Ostrogoths and/or Longobards, although it will likely not be monocausal anyhow.

Vikings are unrelated to this. The only relationship is that Vikings are also essentially derived from Germanics.

[DarkoV]

I asked because I have more Scandinavian than German results.[








Closest Ancient Samples
Genetic Distance

Post-Medieval Syrmia
AD 1461–1635
3.305

Early Medieval Bohemian Slav
AD 500-941
3.393

Gleb Svyatoslavich (Rurik Dynasty)
AD 1052–1078
3.697

Byzantine Slav (Nicaea)
AD 680–820
3.904

Nordic Iron Age (Scania)
AD 427–611
4.042

Rus' (Sunghir)
AD 1050–1220
4.051

Medieval Pole (Silesian)
AD 900–1000
4.051

Post-Medieval Swede (Kronan's Crew)
AD 1676
4.112

Baiuvarii
AD 450–550
4.315

Medieval Dane (Zealand)
AD 1050–1250
4.355

Medieval Sorb (Krakauer Berg)
AD 1040–1402
4.386

Longobard (Pannonia)
AD 540–568
4.467

Medieval South Slav (Doclea)
AD 710–1163
4.505

Nordic Iron Age (Öland)
AD 300–500
4.510

Norse Viking (Skara)
AD 900–1100
4.610

Izyaslav Ingvarevich (Rurik Dynasty)
AD 1180–1223
4.634

Byzantine Slav (Tragurium)
AD 660–780
4.702

Rus' (Suzdal)
AD 1002–1208
4.712

West European Crusader (Sidon)
AD 1191–1283
4.757

Medieval Pole (Polan)
AD 1000–1200
4.810

Norse Viking (Funen)
AD 800–1000

Norse Viking (Funen)
AD 800–1000
4.861

Medieval Schleswig
AD 1070–1210
4.870

Norse Viking (Sigtuna)
AD 892–1040
4.979

Pannonian Slav (Avar Period)
AD 550–640
5.009

Saxon (Friesland)
AD 431–639
5.047

Post-Medieval Faroese
AD 1500–1700
5.062

Medieval Pole (Masovian)
AD 1000–1200
5.067

Norse Viking (Nordland)
AD 700–1000
5.103

Medieval Jamt (Frösön)
AD 1016–1262
5.132

Hallstatt Culture
1200–530 BC
5.143

Medieval Frisian (Groningen)
AD 775–1155
5.166

Quadi
AD 100–200
5.186


Goth (Wielbark Culture)
AD 40–210
5.204

Nordic Iron Age (Stockholm)
AD 475–520
5.228

Saxon (Lower Saxony)
AD 400–800
5.267

Nordic Iron Age (Nordland)
AD 60–400
5.289

Nordic Iron Age (Zealand)
AD 100–300

Norse Viking (Zealand)
AD 800–1000
5.308

Norse Viking (Saaremaa)
AD 700–800
5.326

Early Norse (Greenland)
AD 900–1200
5.334

Pre-Christian Norse (Iceland)
AD 870–1000
5.352

Nordic Iron Age (Gotland)
AD 600
5.373

Nordic Iron Age (Rombäck)
AD 450–500
5.383

Norse Viking (Oxford)
AD 880–1000

[Feiichy]

Are they really Germans by origin?
My FTDNA results
Slavic 57%
Central Europe 8%
Zagorje and Turopolje.

Can you check how much your Kajkavian samples are connected to the Vikings and how much the average German and Croatian samples is linked to the Vikings? Thank you.

Hello. Explanation is as the following:

It's most likely trom medieval Germanic tribes. Unmixed Germanics were closer to modern Scandinavians than average modern Germans genetically, because Germans are more mixed.

There was no relevant Viking settlement in modern Croatia.

[Feiichy]

I would guess much of this Germanic admix in Kajkavians is from Langobards. We have Langobard sample from near Zagreb and he was Frisian like genetically if I remember correctly.

[Feiichy]

wow, I get very different results now when I switch mode to Global and no limit. Will post them.

[Feiichy]

BRONZE AGE
European Farmer (6300–2800 BC) 41.4%

Western Steppe (3300–2600 BC) 38.6%

Baltic Hunter-Gatherer (5200–4200 BC) 14.2%

Bronze Age Anatolian (3400–1500 BC) 5.2%

Yellow River (2300–1900 BC) 0.6%

IRON AGE
Balto-Slavic (900–350 BC) 58.4%

Thracian (1100–200 BC) 25.6%

Italic and Etruscan (900–200 BC) 14.0%

Greek (770–400 BC) 1.4%

Germanic (AD 100–600) 0.6%

MIGRATION PERIOD
Baltic (AD 260–540) 37.4%

Roman Sardinia (AD 400–500) 18.6%

Germanic (AD 100–630) 14.2%

Slavic (AD 540–1100) 8.8%

Lazica 8.8%

Roman Italy (20 BC–AD 600) 8.2%

Roman Anatolia (100 BC–AD 700) 3.2%

Rouran Khaganate (AD 330–550) 0.8%

MIDDLE AGES
Slavic (AD 540–1270) 57.8%

Sardinian (AD 770–1000) 12.6%

Iberian (AD 300–1200) 9.4%

Byzantine Anatolia (AD 500–1100) 8.0%

Baltic (AD 900–1050) 5.8%

Kartvelian 3.0%

Germanic (AD 700–1000)1.8%

North Caucasian (AD 650–1160)1.6%

[Feiichy]

Stears results are here

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