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    Quote Originally Posted by Your Old Comrade View Post
    I see here more the words of a man that demands a free lunch in. He would be the first to complain about migrants coming across the border or when the U.S gets attacked, but he woudldn't be willing to do anything about it. Funny..that I have to use a libertarian acronym now. TANSTAAFL. There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch. Every function of society comes at cost. Defence is one of those.
    For all your talk about 'free lunch' you never answered my question: have you been in the military of your nation? With the knowledge, of course, you'd never be in a war and if you were it would the US doing the fighting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anglo-Celtic View Post
    We aren't at war with Russia. The globalists are, and we live in a crap world if all of the bridge-building journalists and peacemaking diplomats are called traitorous or treasonous. You sometimes hit grand slams in your comments. One this one, you struck out on three slow pitches.
    Conjecture again.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel Frank Grimes View Post
    For all your talk about 'free lunch' you never answered my question: have you been in the military of your nation? With the knowledge, of course, you'd never be in a war and if you were it would the US doing the fighting.
    What I am is none of your business and I don't believe you did, because you lack the sense of duty for it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Your Old Comrade View Post
    This one seems to have a lot more effect as even the U.S is turning their back on them.
    Define 'a lot more effect' with something specific.

    Biden is not happy with Netanyahu and it's only the US that matters in this situation - not Europe. Israel needs US. They don't need Europe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel Frank Grimes View Post
    I have an acquaintance dead in the Iraq war. His family was destroyed. So this is real life to me. To you this is just... I don't know...
    That is Exhibit A on why I kicked neocons to the curb. Multiply their grief by multitudes to get an appreciation of the price to be paid for interventionist policies made by creeps who look down on the individuals that they send to die and kill for globalists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Your Old Comrade View Post
    What I am is none of your business and I don't believe you did, because you lack the sense of duty for it.
    I already said I didn't, and explained why and what would have changed my mind.

    I know you didn't because you're afraid to say you didn't. Apparently, you lack a sense of duty, which is sad because you would never be in harm's way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Your Old Comrade View Post
    So, Frank, time to close and bolt the cage. You are going to answer my question?

    Present to me, the UN Security Resolutions which call for an intervention in Georgia in 2008 and Ukraine in 2014 to today.
    The UN Security Resolutions only serve the interests of US and its allies.

    Russia didn't need security resolutions to give legitimacy to their military interventions in their immediate surroundings when their national security is at stake (unlike the US, that put its noses in parts of the world very far from their own borders), when the goal of their opponents (US and its NATO vassals) was to surround and menace Russia with new NATO memberships in their very immediate borders, practically under their noses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Your Old Comrade View Post
    Conjecture again.
    Really? That same word describes many of your posts in this thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anglo-Celtic View Post
    We aren't at war with Russia. The globalists are, and we live in a crap world if all of the bridge-building journalists and peacemaking diplomats are called traitorous or treasonous. You sometimes hit grand slams in your comments. One this one, you struck out on three slow pitches.
    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel Frank Grimes View Post
    We're not at war. I want to keep us out of a war. It's not in our national interests to be in a conflict over Ukraine with Russia or fighting Hezbollah, or Assad or Iran. I don't stay 'calm and carry on' when my government tries to instigate wars. It's very unpatriotic for me to allow certain people to use me and my neighbors for their own benefit.

    The American people don't want these conflicts. The government is not the American people.

    There is an important choice to be made in November. Old Comrade is a citizen of Holland and will not participate. You have some energy and I wonder if it can be directed at some undecided Americans instead of him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel Frank Grimes View Post
    Define 'a lot more effect' with something specific.

    Biden is not happy with Netanyahu and it's only the US that matters in this situation - not Europe. Israel needs US. They don't need Europe.
    Indeed. But when they lose the U.S, they run into real trouble. And believe it or not: this already happened to them once. In the early 80s, after their invasion of Lebanon at the time. The shekel got much of is value and entered hyperinflafion, unemployment was well in the double digits and the fallout of Sabra and Shatilla caused widespread political instability.


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