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    Quote Originally Posted by Varda View Post
    The mass departure of Russian females to foreign countries to get married for foreigners or engage in prostitution etc
    We never had mass involvement of females in prostitution. Moldovans and Ukrainians had, and they were upper tier "quality" prostitutes here, while Central Asians were the cheapest ones.

    As for the nazi skinheads, in Kazan and bigger towns of Tatarstan, Tatars were members of it just like Russians. The enemies were usually Armenians, Gypsies and others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post
    We never had mass involvement of females in prostitution. Moldovans and Ukrainians had, and they were upper tier "quality" prostitutes here, while Central Asians were the cheapest ones.
    I never heard for Belarusian prostitutes either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scarface F View Post
    I never heard for Belarusian prostitutes either.
    Neither did I. When Lukashenko came to power, Belorussia was extremely criminalized. There were road ambushes on businessmen, people who were buying cars in Europe were killed on the way back home through Belorussia. In like 1 year Lukashenko created some kind of punitive detachments, which were traveling by the roads on new cars, like a bait, when the collision occurred they just killed the gangsters on place without trial. He eliminated drug trade and all sorts of criminalized prostitution in Belorussia back then. Until the appearence of Internet and Darkweb trade Belorussia was very clean in these measures. Almost none of mobsters survived the 1st year of Lukashenko's presidency.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post
    Neither did I. When Lukashenko came to power, Belorussia was extremely criminalized. There were road ambushes on businessmen, people who were buying cars in Europe were killed on the way back home through Belorussia. In like 1 year Lukashenko created some kind of punitive detachments, which were traveling by the roads on new cars, like a bait, when the collision occurred they just killed the gangsters on place without trial. He eliminated drug trade and all sorts of criminalized prostitution in Belorussia back then. Until the appearence of Internet and Darkweb trade Belorussia was very clean in these measures. Almost none of mobsters survived the 1st year of Lukashenko's presidency.
    Excellent tactics, I had no idea. I support such measures.

    But how come Belarus was like that? I always imagined it as extremely tranquil, almost boring and tidy Slavic place. Is it related to destruction nazis caused during WW2 or not? I know Belarus was extremely brutalized during WW2 and someting like 1/4 of population perished.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post
    We never had mass involvement of females in prostitution. Moldovans and Ukrainians had, and they were upper tier "quality" prostitutes here, while Central Asians were the cheapest ones.

    As for the nazi skinheads, in Kazan and bigger towns of Tatarstan, Tatars were members of it just like Russians. The enemies were usually Armenians, Gypsies and others.
    Yes, Ukrainian and Modovan women were known for prostitution across Europe. In the ex Yugo space for many people everyone which came from ex Soviet space if is of white race is 'Russian.' One my distant cousins lived 15 years in Moscow and she brought Estonian man from there. They live in Serbia permanently pretty long and everyone call him 'Rus.' He is anti-Putin oriented. He is Orthodox, but I don't know is that his original religion or he adopted Orthodoxy from my cousins i never asked her that. Estonians should be mostly Protestants.


    In 1990s and first several years of 2000s skinheaads and similar were more numerous in Serbia than today, they were some kind of urban subculture in that time. One former member of Nacionalni stroj say that they beat the Gypsies in Novi Sad often and it was some kind of recreation for them. That organization was more serious than ordinary skinheads https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nacionalni_stroj
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scarface F View Post
    Excellent tactics, I had no idea. I support such measures.

    But how come Belarus was like that? I always imagined it as extremely tranquil, almost boring and tidy Slavic place. Is it related to destruction nazis caused during WW2 or not? I know Belarus was extremely brutalized during WW2 and someting like 1/4 of population perished.
    Well, it's enough to have 0,000001% of populace even if you're calm nation, the ones which will start the violence in seek for power and money in case of lack of state power and law. I think it's not related to WWII because ethnographers describe Belorussian populace in the similar way 100-150-200 years ago.

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    Are they integrating into Serbian society?
    This Russian says they don't learn Serbian, because they speak English https://youtu.be/91dINE6rq8U?t=168
    They open their Russian schools, kindergardens, shops, looks like they're isolating themselves

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    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post
    Neither did I. When Lukashenko came to power, Belorussia was extremely criminalized. There were road ambushes on businessmen, people who were buying cars in Europe were killed on the way back home through Belorussia. In like 1 year Lukashenko created some kind of punitive detachments, which were traveling by the roads on new cars, like a bait, when the collision occurred they just killed the gangsters on place without trial. He eliminated drug trade and all sorts of criminalized prostitution in Belorussia back then. Until the appearence of Internet and Darkweb trade Belorussia was very clean in these measures. Almost none of mobsters survived the 1st year of Lukashenko's presidency.
    Lukashenko is a great leader!

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    Quote Originally Posted by pelikarski View Post
    Are they integrating into Serbian society?
    This Russian says they don't learn Serbian, because they speak English https://youtu.be/91dINE6rq8U?t=168
    They open their Russian schools, kindergardens, shops, looks like they're isolating themselves
    They should start learning Serbian if they think to stay here in the long term.
    It is a basic form of respect for the country that received them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pelikarski View Post
    Are they integrating into Serbian society?
    This Russian says they don't learn Serbian, because they speak English https://youtu.be/91dINE6rq8U?t=168
    They open their Russian schools, kindergardens, shops, looks like they're isolating themselves
    They are recent newcomers and it is excepted from them to be ghettoized to some degree. Except that, many of them have some kind of superiority complex towards Balkanites. Victor wrote about that. Part of them will probably stay permanently in Serbia. Their children which go to school and grow up in Serbia and which will be born here will be well integeated for sure. They are maybe snobbish Russians but still Russians, they are not Albanians which for decades ignored Yugoslavia and Serbia as much as they could and they were ready for armed uprising against Belgrade/Serbia. White Russians which arrived in Yugoslavia after 1920 and stayed there after WW2 (part of them escaped from Yugoslavia in 1944/45 when Red Army arrived) were assimilatted in Serbs.
    Last edited by Varda; 03-03-2024 at 05:37 PM.

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