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None of them wanted to destroy Eastern Europe. This is childish. Both wanted to form Eastern Europe along their imagination of how it ideally should be.
Because now is asked for the communists: If we leave aside all opportunists and restrict the question to those with a communist conviction then I'll say that there were three main categories of followers:
- unfavourable and petty characters
- naive idealists
- secular Jews, that in communism see a solution to get out of their societal fringe exsitence as Jews and find a new substitute identity and commonality
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This sounds somewhat schlau im Nachhinein (knowledgeable afterwards).
The ethnocidal behaviour decades later in the western parts could not seriously be predicted. In contrast to this, rapes, lootings, deportations of Germans that never showed up again and later expulsions of abt. 10 million Germans due to the Soviet control were very present.
As for today's knowledge it has a point, though.
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Communism: Elites downgrading the productive by equalizing their income with the non-productive so no one below said elites can rise to their level of control.
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I think every system where person needs to do his best to have a good life is more or less ok if it's not based on quasi religious ideology, no need for Communism for it. All the systems which suppose that everyone will live in prosperity with minimum or little effort are unhealthy ones, with egalitarian mommy states.
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This is most definitively wrong Morti. Communism is indeed the most similar to national socialism.
They were made upon similar ideas. You can even go further and say that they were the same except Nazi's really saw opportunity in eugenicist movement, while communist wanted to show they are not national, but international, and different, so wanted to deny anything related to nation and nationalistic propaganda, so they seek to cancel out locally anything related to genetics, or something that would encourage competition within the country like capitalism (but actually this stands for nazism too), whereas in fact they were both unnatural, hybrid, and unsustainable systems which is ultimately the reason they failed.
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Comparing ideologies like communism, nazism, and 'capitalism' reveals both similarities and differences in their underlying principles, political structures, and societal visions. And the same goes for almost any pair of human ideologies. They tend to share certain characteristics while diverging significantly in others.
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