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Mount Athos has lots of monasteries with different attitude to things happening in Orthodox World. Lots of Greek priests expresses their attitude to Ukrainian church situation. Lots of priests reject to commemorate false Ukrainian metropolitan at Liturgy. By the way, Ukrainian nationalists were tricked with "autocephaly" because this church is attached to Constantinople, it has less rights in this submission than canonical Ukrainian church inside Moscow patriarchate.
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I dont support the armenian EU membership in this political situation. I dont want conflict zones in the EU, we dont need Ukraine, Moldova and others either.
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You're not Orthodox, but well, just a fact, this rapidly made "Ukrainian church" is one of the most bizarre projects. It's small in numbers, because Ukro nationalists who still have nominally Christian attitude prefer Ukrainian church of kievan patriarchate of met Filaret. Western Ukrainians are uniates. Majority of Christian Ukrainians are members of UOC. This artificial one is a dogmatical and canonical chaos. Huge amount of their churches are violently stolen churches of UOC. Most of them stay closed because they have no people to come. An average "modern Ukrainian Orthodox" does not go to own church and generally does not give a damn about Christianity, motivation may be "wow they celebrate Xmas on 25th Dec, cool".
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It's bad for them, not for us, not for me, thanks God I belong to canonical Church. This "their decision" is not accepted by majority of Ukrainian citizens. It's not me who gets beaten by masked men in front of church, it's not my parochy who's church gets raided and stolen.
Btw do you support violent attacks and taking over churches in Ukraine? It happened and happens quite massively, never condemned by Constantinople, even Yanks did it and Catholic church. Rarely by locals,more often by nationalists gangs who come by buses and cars. Then they put a lock on church.
There are facts when some parochies lost their church and built a new one, just to lose it again taken by nationalists. Lots of parochies serve Liturgy on open air, at someone's houses
When I say someone is heretic it's just a statement. It does not mean that this person has no right to profess his false faith or has to be repressed. There are mosques, synagogues, Catholic, Armenian and protestant churches in my country, why would I care or want them not to exist?
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That's quite lukewarm attitude of like "everything is lies and I don't really care". Lots of these crimes systematic long before the war, lots of them are filmed, not denied by the attacking side, confirmed by Human Rights and religious organizations, including non-Orthodox ones. I can say the same as the phrase I quoted of you about Armenian genocide, but really, no matter what it was and what were the reasons, the fact is that finished with thousands of dead Armenians.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVS-3uDqoxw
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Let's return to the topic. What bad has happened to Armenia through the years of independence Russia can be blamed for as unreliable ? I mean, Russia is literally the reason why modern Armenian state on territory of Erivan khanate later governorate (which had almost half of Azeri populace back in Russian Empire, now 98% are Armenians) still exists now.
And you have strong political and business lobby in bad Russia, mafia too, for sure.
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