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    Quote Originally Posted by Tenma de Pegasus View Post
    Yes since I always think of Colombia as Andes plus Atlantic Colombia and I often forget their Choco and Pacific Colombia that jumps their SSA.
    Not really since Choco is very little populated. It doesn’t have a big effect on the country’s overall demographics.

    Venezuela is def. more SSA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by samario View Post
    Not really since Choco is very little populated. It doesn’t have a big effect on the country’s overall demographics.

    Venezuela is def. more SSA.
    I don't know if is right that Venezuela is more SSA than Colombia, but if it is, is only by very little. A difference of no more than very few (in the single digits, and well under 10) percentage points.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tenma de Pegasus View Post
    Yes since I always think of Colombia as Andes plus Atlantic Colombia and I often forget their Choco and Pacific Colombia that jumps their SSA.
    I don't know what you mean, but Venezuela is almost equal with Colombia in its overall Euro/Amerindian/African inputs, with the only difference, that I already explained, that the SSA is more spread in the Venezuelan general population (including also many Venezuelans whose SSA is in the single digits), while in Colombia is more segregated (more people strictly mestizo/Euro-mestizo/criollo with zero SSA, as well as more heavily black people compared to Venezuela).

    And if Venezuela is slightly more SSA than Colombia is only by very few percentage points of difference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alnortedelsur View Post
    I don't know if is right that Venezuela is more SSA than Colombia, but if it is, is only by very little. A difference of no more than very few (in the single digits, and well under 10) percentage points.
    Venezuela is at least 7-8 points more SSA. Venezuela is not 10-11% SSA on average, which is Colombia’s range of SSA ancestry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RMuller View Post
    How did Venezuela end up being a mostly triracial nation?

    If you compare it to Colombia which has a majority mestizo-harnizo population with very few triracials compared to Venezuela.
    Colombia es solo algo menos SSA que Venezuela. Lo que ocurre es que la mayoría de tri raciales/negros/zambos colombianos viven en las costas y las tierras bajas, y están segregados del resto de la población, mientras que Venezuela es más homogenea.

    De todos modos, es posible encontrar una cantidad relativamente alta de tri raciales en ciudades no costeras como Medellín, mientras que en Cali hay un buen número de negros/griffes. Solo diría que ciudades altas (>2000 msnm) como Bogotá, Manizales, Tunja o Pasto se encuentran en el espectro estrictamente blanco-indígena.

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    I dont know why people tout their high european dna but downplay their 10% SSA. like if is going to overshadow the others. I seen videos of 8% ssa and he still looks like zambo. The black gene is so dominant that is hard to diminish it. All these conversations should focus on the % SSA which is so predominant in LA and is menace to those people who dont want to carry that gene

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    Quote Originally Posted by brucewillis View Post
    1-chile is not uruguay
    2-mexico is not argentina
    3-in south america after bolivia peru and ecuador chile is the most amerindian country
    4-mexico is 15-20% less european than colombia and 30-35% more amerindian
    5-as al norte said venezuela is not triracial is a very heterogeneous country there are a white minority and many castizos harnizos mestizos without ssa
    Colombia en total debería de ser como 56% euro, 32% amerindio y un 12% subsahariano aunque esto varía mucho de región

    México es alrededor de un 42% europeo, un 54-55% amerindio, y un 3%-4% SSA. También variando de región. Yo he leído varios estudios genéticos sobre Mexico y creo que esto es lo más correcto. Exageras cuando dices que MX es 60% indígena en promedio

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    Quote Originally Posted by LorenzoSpitaleri View Post
    Venezuela, with no gringo input is actually 60% euro on average
    Lol déjate de estupideces.Venezuela es muy similar a Colombia. A de ser más o menos igual solo que son levemente menos amerindios y más subsaharianos que los colombianos. Y creeme que ninguno de esos países es 60% europeo en promedio

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thetruth View Post
    Lol no, I think Central American countries are much more Spanish/Euro then Andean countries like Peru or Bolivia, for one those people don’t even have a significant population that speaks indigenous language with the exception being Guatemala only.
    Yo creo lo mismo. Porque en México y Centroamérica es común toparse con mestizos equilibrados y hasta harnizos en las clases bajas. Yo he conocido a Guatemaltecos harnizos que no son ricos. Y me da la impresión de que en Perú y Bolivia es hasta raro ver mestizos balanceados en las clases bajas. No digo que no hay, pero creo que son pocos. De hecho, creo que buena parte de la clase media-alta y alta Limeña de Perú es mestiza, algo parecido sucede en estados como Puebla en donde la mayoría de la población es indo-mestiza salvó la gente de clase alta que son mestizos, harnizos y castizos. Y hasta italianos blancos se ven en lugares como Cholula, aunque todos son ricos

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    No, he could be Right Venezuela would be like 60% in average, even 65-67% if not we're received mass influx of poor latins in the past century

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