Do you used to get bullied?

[Benyzero]

The problem is always those get hurt that don't necessarily deserve it. Its a stupid game

[Immanenz]

Males that show dominance in the most primitive way as teens or kids are not sadistic and I would not attach any mental conditions to teens and kids.

i think you cant judge how things work out, sometimes the bullied becomes the bully like in case of Steve Jobs later on. There is a lot of things going from 15 to 25, men will focus on career, chasing women or they need to pay the rent- life is indeed hard and unfair.

But i agree the most aggressive males lack calmness and perfectionism to become really someone. They are best suited in sports, but this is an extremly hard field to succeed.

[Voskos]

Most of the people posting here (TA), have been bullied more than average, and are still getting bullied. That's my guess.

[Teutone]

i think you cant judge how things work out, sometimes the bullied becomes the bully like in case of Steve Jobs later on. There is a lot of things going from 15 to 25, men will focus on career, chasing women or they need to pay the rent- life is indeed hard and unfair.

But i agree the most aggressive males lack calmness and perfectionism to become really someone. They are best suited in sports, but this is an extremly hard field to succeed.

I did mention sillicon valley CEOs and their case specifically.
In my second post.

You seem to cope, in my experience school bullies stay popular and successful in adult life.

Competitive people succeed in the free market, people that are not competitive are usually the type that got bullied, they can succeed in fields where the quantity of skilled experts is low or as state employees.

Tech CEOs suceeded in fields where almost everyone was very likely not popular in high school.

People like Trump, Maschmeyer or Mateschitz were always dominant and competitive people.

Putin is also a well known former bully, he made his way to power during the competitive privatization years after the fall of the soviet union, not as official oligarch but as a shadow oligarch, thats a true competitive monster that reached it all.



Trump calling Putin a killer is no insult,but admiration as Frederick Trump used to say to his sons to be killers, which was a synonym for being dominant/successful.

[Immanenz]

I did mention sillicon valley CEOs and their case specifically.
In my second post.

You seem to cope, in my experience school bullies stay popular and successful in adult life.

Competitive people succeed in the free market, people that are not competitive are usually the type that got bullied, they can succeed in fields where the quantity of skilled experts is low or as state employees.

Tech CEOs suceeded in fields where almost everyone was very likely not popular in high school.

People like Trump, Maschmeyer or Mateschitz were always dominant and competitive people.

Putin is also a well known former bully, he made his way to power during the competitive privatization years after the fall of the soviet union, not as official oligarch but as a shadow oligarch, thats a true competitive monster that reached it all.

Trump calling Putin a killer is no insult,but admiration as Frederick Trump used to say to his sons to be killers, which was a synonym for being dominant/successful

Well, none of them come across as the brutish aggressive types, they are either more silent aggressive types like Putin or Machiavellian snakes like Trump, you can take someone as Berlusconi in this group.

But i do agree none- competitive people will not succeed in the so called "free economy" or politics or any field, thats a given.

[Östsvensk]

Males that show dominance in the most primitive way as teens or kids are not sadistic and I would not attach any mental conditions to teens and kids.

I think bullying is in our DNA and normal group behavior when you force a certain set of people into a group, in adult life you are much more free to leave a envirorment where you dont feel comfortable, in school you got no choice on the other hand.

Some bullies are scum but often the people that get bullied are so off the norm or cunts themselves, that they ask for it.

Life is hard and unfair, bullying teaches you the lesson.

Bullying is also something institutions like the military practices systematically to ensure collectivisim and group hygiene, so it cant be too bad.

I got bullied in Kindergarten and learned a lesson from it early on that made me avoid getting bullied later on.

In my case, I was no angel myself (me and my friends nearly burned down the school gym when we were 12). I had the mentality and mindset of a bully but I didn't have the popularity. So the popular kids put me in my place. If I had been popular, I probably would have been a bully in the way of George Orwell's Animal Farm. There were other victims of bullying who deserve more pity than I do.

I think when bullying really goes too far is when there are problems at home (like the father beats and abuses the child), and the other kids pick it up and prey on their vulnerability like a pack of hyenas. There was one boy I knew about in the neighbouring school and I learned that he had a sister who died young while he was in high school. He got extremely bullied while he was in sorrow and whole packs beat him up at once. He committed suicide ten years after his sister's death and the two are now buried under the same stone. I wonder if the bullies feel any remorse about it. The sad thing is that they probably don't feel an ounce of it.

[tropicalslavic]

Yes. I was always a tomboy with odd interests and not that many friends, plus I came from a bad home and didn't always act right because of it. Much of the bullying was from teachers, one locked me in a storage closet for an entire school day and lied to me how it's about how I got a math problem wrong, but I knew I got it right. I don't know why she hated me that much, sometimes I wondered if it was because I was an immigrant. I was too little to understand that this was abuse. Lots of it came from the other children as well. I'd get called a lesbian for my interests, which now I think is just bizarre because I was an ordinary country girl with typical interests for that demographic.

Anyway, that's why my kids are not going to public school. I don't intend to shelter them forever and from everything, but I will never trust other adults around them until they are old enough to understand when other people are being cruel and abusive, so perhaps around teenage years.

[Mortimer]

In my case, I was no angel myself (me and my friends nearly burned down the school gym when we were 12). I had the mentality and mindset of a bully but I didn't have the popularity. So the popular kids put me in my place. If I had been popular, I probably would have been a bully in the way of George Orwell's Animal Farm. There were other victims of bullying who deserve more pity than I do.

I think when bullying really goes too far is when there are problems at home (like the father beats and abuses the child), and the other kids pick it up and prey on their vulnerability like a pack of hyenas. There was one boy I knew about in the neighbouring school and I learned that he had a sister who died young while he was in high school. He got extremely bullied while he was in sorrow and whole packs beat him up at once. He committed suicide ten years after his sister's death and the two are now buried under the same stone. I wonder if the bullies feel any remorse about it. The sad thing is that they probably don't feel an ounce of it.

Reading this makes me sad but also reminds me that there are much worse cases of bullying then mine

[Saitama]

Yes. I was always a tomboy with odd interests and not that many friends, plus I came from a bad home and didn't always act right because of it. Much of the bullying was from teachers, one locked me in a storage closet for an entire school day and lied to me how it's about how I got a math problem wrong, but I knew I got it right. I don't know why she hated me that much, sometimes I wondered if it was because I was an immigrant. I was too little to understand that this was abuse. Lots of it came from the other children as well. I'd get called a lesbian for my interests, which now I think is just bizarre because I was an ordinary country girl with typical interests for that demographic.

Anyway, that's why my kids are not going to public school. I don't intend to shelter them forever and from everything, but I will never trust other adults around them until they are old enough to understand when other people are being cruel and abusive, so perhaps around teenage years.

Yeah, that sounds pretty fucked. My best childhood friend was actually a tomboy, our parents would joke about us ending up together but that never happened. lol.

Y'know, they say a lot of predators like to take on jobs where they deal with children. Just another reason to worry, really. I think that growing up, I also had the same problem of simply being too naive and too gentle or kind hearted to realize when another child or even an adult was possibly being malicious. I know that I had at least one close friend who definitely had a toxic relationship towards me. Too late to worry about it now, anyway.

[Blondie]

Never been bullied, i was popular in the high school. These dominance fights between guys are exciting anyway.