Early Iron Age to IA, scaled, no low-res or outliers

[Dantevici]

Missed that outlier. I removed it. Try again if you want to

Target: me_scaled
Distance: 1.7716% / 0.01771611 | R5P
31.0 ITA_Rome_Latini_IA
26.2 TUR_IA
23.4 ARM_Bragdzor_EIA
15.6 PAK_Arkotkila_IA
3.8 HUN_Hun_Elite_IA

[cass]

Python for it:

Moldovan_o 36.615%
Croatian 28.940%
Hungarian 21.369%
Cossack_Ukrainian 8.359%
Russian_Voronez 4.717%


Fit error: 0.025107726720482868

Moldovan_o is probably Ukrainian.


Is MNE_IA a single sample or some regional average?

[ScandinavianCelt]

Moldovan_o is probably Ukrainian.


Is MNE_IA a single sample or some regional average?

It's standard ave G25 for MNE

It has a newest version you can try:

Montenegro_IA,0.125205,0.126941,0.059585,0.049096, 0.030467,0.013387,0.005875,0.01223,-0.002659,-0.011481,0.005521,-0.01169,0.009217,0.012937,-0.010043,0.014054,0.001173,-0.000253,-0.001885,-0.005503,-0.006863,0.000866,0.000863,-0.006989,-0.004311

Python for newer averaged sample:

Moldovan_o 36.895%
Hungarian 33.560%
Cossack_Ukrainian 15.145%
Slovakian 14,400%


Fit error: 0.022180741475493707

[ScandinavianCelt]

I didn't realize they had updated their ancient pop averages on the official site so I posted all their early Iron Age and Iron Age samples. I removed outliers in updated set of samples.

[Far_away]

Slavs in the Balkans in IA?

Distance to: MNE_IA
0.02612891 Ukrainian_Zakarpattia
0.02870433 Italian_Trentino_Alto_Adige_Trentino_o
0.02940938 Ukrainian_Lviv
0.03142168 Hungarian
0.03193681 Slovene
0.03223654 Croat
0.03224391 Ukrainian_Kropyvnytskyi
0.03255905 Ukrainian_Pontic
0.03276900 Ukrainian_Cherkasy
0.03292663 Italian_Friuli_Venezia_Giulia_o
0.03300620 Slovak
0.03337202 Moldovan_o1
0.03339302 Czech
0.03367197 Ukrainian_Ivano-Frankivsk
0.03457507 Moldovan
0.03527166 Polish_Wielkopolska
0.03583012 Croat_Kajkavian
0.03627858 Ukrainian
0.03646450 Polish
0.03653339 Ukrainian_Sumy
0.03663762 Ukrainian_Crimea
0.03680004 Bosniak_Croatia
0.03765357 Ukrainian_Ternopil
0.03837756 Cossack_Ukrainian_Dnipropetrovsk
0.03882949 Ukrainian_Zhytomyr

What? Slavs were always here on balkan

[cass]

It's standard ave G25 for MNE

It has a newest version you can try:

Montenegro_IA,0.125205,0.126941,0.059585,0.049096, 0.030467,0.013387,0.005875,0.01223,-0.002659,-0.011481,0.005521,-0.01169,0.009217,0.012937,-0.010043,0.014054,0.001173,-0.000253,-0.001885,-0.005503,-0.006863,0.000866,0.000863,-0.006989,-0.004311

Python for newer averaged sample:

Moldovan_o 36.895%
Hungarian 33.560%
Cossack_Ukrainian 15.145%
Slovakian 14,400%


Fit error: 0.022180741475493707

Montenegro_Doclea_Roman_oAegean.SG:R3481.SG,0.1172 38,0.157407,0.015462,-0.032946,0.018773,-0.012829,0.00376,-0.002538,0,0.029887,-0.005846,0.002997,-0.017245,0.003853,-0.010858,-0.017767,-0.002086,0.003927,0.004525,-0.012256,-0.001996,0.008903,-0.003081,-0.003012,-0.002395
Montenegro_Doclea_Roman.SG:R3478.SG,0.127482,0.141 159,0.042238,0.021641,0.024004,0.016176,0.00188,0. 010384,-0.000614,-0.005832,-0.001786,-0.003597,0.001933,0.003991,-0.009772,-0.011005,-0.001565,0.003674,0.007668,-0.003001,-0.014849,-0.005193,-0.001972,0.002048,0.001317
Montenegro_Doclea_Roman.SG:R3482.SG,0.132035,0.147 252,0.062979,0.031654,0.02739,0.01757,0.010105,0.0 10384,-0.006136,-0.002734,0.001299,-0.005245,0.000446,0.018304,-0.013165,0.00716,0.017211,0.004814,0.002137,0.0060 03,-0.009608,-0.00272,-0.001849,-0.007471,0.000359
Montenegro_Doclea_Roman.SG:R9918.SG,0.129758,0.131 003,0.049026,0.021318,0.03416,0.01757,0.004465,0.0 07154,-0.003886,-0.000364,0.001786,-0.007793,-0.000595,0.013349,-0.013301,0.009812,0.0236,-0.004307,0.006411,-0.009505,-0.004118,-0.01014,0.007641,-0.006266,0.002994
Montenegro_Doclea_Roman.SG:R9919.SG,0.133173,0.144 205,0.04978,0.024871,0.037545,0.01255,0.006345,0.0 00692,-0.003886,0.00164,-0.005034,-0.00045,0.00223,0.006606,-0.009908,0.0118,0.022165,0.0019,0.001383,-0.001376,-0.00836,0.002102,0.007641,-0.001566,-0.00012
Montenegro_Doclea_Roman.SG:R9920.SG,0.12862,0.1350 65,0.042992,0.02907,0.028928,0.015339,-0.00141,0.006461,-0.000409,-0.010752,-0.002598,-0.000749,-0.000297,0.02202,-0.012351,-0.01127,-0.002217,0.001267,0.009427,-0.001501,0.000873,-0.000124,0.001232,0.001928,-0.003233
Montenegro_IA:I13170_v54.1_addback,0.125205,0.1269 41,0.059585,0.049096,0.030467,0.013387,0.005875,0. 01223,-0.002659,-0.011481,0.005521,-0.01169,0.009217,0.012937,-0.010043,0.014054,0.001173,-0.000253,-0.001885,-0.005503,-0.006863,0.000866,0.000863,-0.006989,-0.004311

Unfortunately, only a single one and its dating is uncertain. A group of Slavs in the Balkans at that time would be too big an archaeological surprise.

https://slavicorigins.blogspot.com/2...-comeback.html

[cass]

Another sample that might be misdated is I13170 from Velika Gruda in Montenegro, attributed to the Iron Age (800-400 BCE) (6). This individual, which was not radiocarbon dated, clustered with modern South Slavs (6), and was therefore excluded from our analyses.

https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1....543790v1.full

[Far_away]

Distance: 2.3622% / 0.02362236 | ADC: 0.25x RC
41.8 HUN_IA_Syrmian_SremGroup
34.6 MNE_IA
10.2 ARM_Keti_EIA
7.8 HUN_IA_La_Tene_possible
5.6 CZE_IA_La_Tene_Hallstatt

[Gaditanian]

Target: Gaditanian
Distance: 0.7803% / 0.00780336 | R5P
41.0 ITA_Prenestini_tribe_IA
33.0 TUN_Kerkouane_IA
16.8 NOR_North_IA
6.4 Levant_Beirut_IAIII_Egyptian
2.8 THA_IA

G25 updated version

Target: Gaditanian
Distance: 1.0508% / 0.01050770 | R5P
45.2 France_Occitanie_IA2.SG
31.6 Italy_Sardinia_IA_Punic_1
13.0 Scotland_IA
7.6 Israel_IA
2.6 Thailand_IA.SG

[PT Tagus]

Target: Endovelicus_scaled
Distance: 1.5898% / 0.01589827 | R5P
44.0 Iberia_North_IA
20.6 TUN_Kerkouane_IA
18.2 Scotland_IA
14.2 Levant_Abel_IA
3.0 KEN_IA_Deloraine

Distance to:	Endovelicus_scaled
0.04210659	ITA_Tarquinia_IA
0.04709118	HRV_IA
0.05251313	HRV_EIA
0.05347923	AUT_IA_La_Tene
0.05451675	ITA_Prenestini_tribe_IA
0.05483786	SVN_EIA
0.05572539	CHE_IA
0.05629438	ITA_Boville_Ernica_IA
0.05638328	HUN_LBA_EIA
0.05819907	HUN_IA_La_Tene
0.05978620	FRA_SouthEast_IA2
0.06034476	HUN_EIA
0.06081260	SRB_IA
0.06111456	SVN_LBA_EIA
0.06146108	SVK_IA_Vekerzug
0.06148783	Iberia_North_IA
0.06204446	HUN_EIA_Prescythian_Mezocsat
0.06399787	Iberia_East_IA
0.06415807	ITA_Ardea_Latini_IA
0.06609502	England_EIA_highEEF
0.06701778	HUN_IA_Syrmian_SremGroup
0.06827733	Channel_Islands_IA
0.06864400	FRA_Alsace_IA1
0.06962952	FRA_Occitanie_IA2
0.07188426	CZE_IA_Hallstatt

G25 updated version

Target: Endovelicus_scaled
Distance: 1.4551% / 0.01455107 | R5P
41.4 Spain_IA_Celt
21.6 Scotland_IA
19.4 England_IA_Roman_oMiddleEast.SG
14.2 Italy_Sardinia_IA_Punic_2
3.4 Botswana_Xaro_EIA

Distance to:	Endovelicus_scaled
0.04952915	Croatia_EIA
0.05173986	Italy_TarquiniaMonterozzi_IA.SG
0.05354259	Austria_IA_LaTene
0.05423151	Italy_IA_Republic.SG
0.05496409	Hungary_EIA
0.05531686	Slovenia_EIA
0.05695943	Croatia_LBA_EIA
0.05863893	Albania_BA_IA
0.05867344	Hungary_IA_LaTene
0.05869559	France_GrandEst_IA1.SG
0.05900739	Hungary_EIA_Prescythian_Mezocsat
0.05991768	France_SouthEast_IA2
0.06142602	Slovenia_LBA_EIA
0.06211075	Slovakia_IA_Vekerzug
0.06321296	Spain_IA_Celt
0.06380918	Macedonia_IA
0.06582437	France_Occitanie_IA2.SG
0.06620494	England_EIA_highEEF
0.06644512	Hungary_IA_Syrmian_SremGroup
0.06701029	Spain_IA
0.06858046	France_GrandEst_IA2.SG
0.06974810	ChannelIslands_IA
0.07043101	Albania_IA
0.07074477	France_HautsDeFrance_IA2.SG
0.07097973	Czech_IA_Hallstatt