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    Quote Originally Posted by Rusikh View Post
    Bandera is an good person then, he murdered Poljaks with extreme ferocity, he adhered to the Nazi ideology, modern Ukrainians base their history on "Nazism", but of course they're the victims, and Russians are the evil devils that try to retake is their, an blind man cannot see any colour, but he will insist (if he's retarded) that he can, so the Westerners do it, maybe for their personal interest? Not so quickly, they're just coward, scared degenerated individuals, Vladimir Putin did something really innovative and courageous in this era, he declared an war against all odds, which he of course understood, nobody had the balls, the US supporters and idiots from the Western coalition NATO sphere should rethink about this, they lost the Vietnam war and also they haven't concluded anything in Afghanistan, instead they pushed ISIL terrorist in the Middle East with the help of Israel, which Russian forces cleared, that's where the hate comes from for the Russian peoples.
    Do not waste lines on your hackneyed rhetoric, you are not going to convince anyone who is not already convinced.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rusikh View Post
    blah, blah, blah. Nazi here, Nazi there.
    It is time to apply some "critical thinking" within your nation and amongst our own. You are a victim of propaganda as are many of our own folk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by frankhammer View Post
    TBH, fascists and Nazis are supposed everywhere throughout our communities say those left leaning folk within our own nations. A mere 20 or so years ago, there were almost none
    According to Putin's speech on the day of the parade, the West intends to rewrite the history of the Second World War by whitewashing the Nazis.

    It is paradoxical that all those who support Russia and Putin's war have directly supported or whitewashed the Nazis in this or another forum, and clearly maintain fascist opinions and attitudes.

    Even if Churchill didn't say it, it seems to be true that "The fascists of the future will call themselves anti-fascists." and that includes both extremes of the political spectrum, the so-called "antifa" and these "fighters against fascism" spontaneously emerging from the world of the postmodern right.

    But hey, all this is nothing more than a misinformation strategy that aims to keep the rival busy in sterile debates and diatribes that distance him from the true focus, which is nothing more than a struggle for imposing their own interests and will ,maintain the power etc...


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    Quote Originally Posted by lei.talk View Post
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    I'm not watching it. I'm replying to let you know that I did not get a quote notification.
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    Quote Originally Posted by frankhammer View Post
    It is time to apply some "critical thinking" within your nation and amongst our own. You are a victim of propaganda as are many of our own folk.
    That is the main problem, supporting an "ideological option" en bloc without any critical sense. No political position is always right in anything.

    If it is about solving problems, we must adopt the optimal solution without ideological premises that prevent us from choosing the appropriate one "because it does not fit what our political option is supposed to defended."

    Pure orthodoxy, the denial of the other, the indisputable dogmas are an obstacle and deepen the problems instead of helping to solve them.

    The fact is that then, out of pure pragmatism, when they are forced to have to adopt measures that they had previously criticized, they have no choice but to twist reality and do intellectual and rhetorical juggling to make it seem like something legitimate.

    It is not a criticism of a specific side, it is an evil that affects everyone, especially serious the more extreme the political position.

    There is no room for dialogue, there is no room for agreement, the only thing left to do is impose oneself by force, override the other, use any means to achieve our ends.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    Reliable because the source is German?
    Watch the video before questioning its reliability. ZDF is German state TV.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hektor12 View Post
    Watch the video before questioning its reliability. ZDF is German state TV.
    Yeah, but if you think the fact that it is state TV from Germany gives it any sort of credibility, then you're wrong. In the past maybe, but today's German officials are straight liars when it comes to Russia. Proven liars.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    Yeah, but if you think the fact that it is state TV from Germany gives it any sort of credibility, then you're wrong. In the past maybe, but today's German officials are straight liars when it comes to Russia. Proven liars.
    Theres visual evidence in the video.

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    "Pictured: A fire ignited at a plant in Berlin containing poisonous sulphuric acid and copper cyanide that is reportedly linked to missiles supplied to Ukraine" The photo and its caption were both posted at the article linked to below.


    Intelligence chiefs have warned ministers they fear Britain and other key Ukrainian allies are being targeted by Russian saboteurs following a series of suspicious incidents in recent months.

    These include a wave of fires at arms factories and military-related industrial sites in the West that are supplying Ukraine. There have also been attacks on computer systems, train derailments and even jamming of satellite signals for civil air flights.

    Last night, a senior British security source said Western intelligence agencies feared a spate of industrial fires were connected to Moscow, saying 'the b******s' were trying to set Europe alight.
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