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[Sebastianus Rex]

Thank you, @Sebastianus Rex for the detailed information about water temperatures in Madeira and the Algarve during September and October. 19-23 degrees Celsius still seems quite comfortable for swimming in my opinion. It's helpful to know the warmer temperatures are closer to Spain within the Algarve region as well. I may spend more time in that area then and still get to enjoy swimming. Overall, it seems the Algarve will be a better choice than Madeira for combining beach/water activities with my tour guiding and exploration during those months. I appreciate you taking the time to share your insights based on temperature trends in those locations. It will help me finalize my itinerary in a way that makes the most of the climate and conditions while I'm visiting Portugal.

Glad to help, anything you want to know just ask.

[Damião de Góis]

Iberian union: yes or no?

Are you asking if we would like to be ruled by Bourbons?

Como assim? No 23adnme aparece a % de sangue ibérico de uma pessoa! Por isso perguntei qual seria a média de um português tem de sangue ibérico?

De acordo com a última versão do 23andme toda a gente é entre 97 e 100% da sua etnia principal.

[Labriego]

Are you asking if we would like to be ruled by Bourbons?

Well, I don't see that Portugal has fared much better being governed by England

I'm asking if you're for or against an Iberian union. This doesn't necessarily mean that such a union must be governed by Bourbons.

[Damião de Góis]

Well, I don't see that Portugal has fared much better being governed by England

We have discussed this in pages 139 and 140. Portugal was doing great economically after 1640 and until the discovery of gold in Brazil.

The iberian union with Spain that occured in 1580 was disastrous for Portugal, which was why it only lasted 60 years. How could people be happy with:

- increase taxes
- losing asian colonies to the Netherlands
- seeing a lot of its naval fleet being destroyed in the spanish attempt of invading England in the Invicible Armada

I'm asking if you're for or against an Iberian union. This doesn't necessarily mean that such a union must be governed by Bourbons.

It would depend on the terms of this union. But generally i would be against.

[Sebastianus Rex]

We have discussed this in pages 139 and 140. Portugal was doing great economically after 1640 and until the discovery of gold in Brazil.

The iberian union with Spain that occured in 1580 was disastrous for Portugal, which was why it only lasted 60 years. How could people be happy with:

- increase taxes
- losing asian colonies to the Netherlands
- seeing a lot of its naval fleet being destroyed in the spanish attempt of invading England in the Invicible Armada



It would depend on the terms of this union. But generally i would be against.

That's historically proven, during the 17th and until the mid/late 18th centuries, Portugal was doing economically much better than Spain and was among the most prosperous of western Europe.

The real disasters for Portugal were the Marquês de Pombal rule who completely dismantled the Jesuist education system and didn't replace it (apart from other disastrous policies), the Napoleonic invasions and the following liberal/civil wars.

Nuno Palma - Professor of Economics, Department of Economics, University of Manchester. Director, The Arthur Lewis Lab for Comparative Development - wrote a very detailed book about it, explaining the causes and debunking some myths:

[Damião de Góis]

That's historically proven, during the 17th and until the mid/late 18th centuries, Portugal was doing economically much better than Spain and was among the most prosperous of western Europe.

The real disasters for Portugal were the Marquês de Pombal rule who completely dismantled the Jesuist education system and didn't replace it (apart from other disastrous policies), the Napoleonic invasions and the following liberal/civil wars.

Nuno Palma - Professor of Economics, Department of Economics, University of Manchester. Director, The Arthur Lewis Lab for Comparative Development - wrote a very detailed book about it, explaining the causes and debunking some myths:

Yes i have read his book, it's very good. Pombal was more of a consequence of what came before (the gold from Brazil). The work Luis de Meneses had in industrializing the country was halted by the influx of gold from Brazil. Then characters like Pombal appeared.

[Florstadt]

I personally have a more neutral stance about the conflict, I don't like the policies of Israel and think that the response in tge Gaza Strip is out of proportion but I also don't have any sympathy for people who celebrate out loud the massacre and rape of women and children like the Palestinians did in October. Besides if didn't knew how Muslims behave in Europe the wokes could even foul me with their whole victimisation campaign towards Palestine.

And what is the consensus about the war and Israel in Portugal?

[Sebastianus Rex]

And what is the consensus about the war and Israel in Portugal?

There is no consensus, right wing parties/people in a general way support Israel while left wing parties/people support Hamas...erhmmm sorry I meant Palestine.

[zueira]

Are you asking if we would like to be ruled by Bourbons?



De acordo com a última versão do 23andme toda a gente é entre 97 e 100% da sua etnia principal.

Sempre pensei que fosse comum ser mais misturado do que isso em Portugal

[Damião de Góis]

Sempre pensei que fosse comum ser mais misturado do que isso em Portugal

Depende do teste. Estes são os meus resultados em testes diferentes para o componente ibérico:

23andme: Spanish & Portuguese - 97.7%

Ancestry: Portugal - 75%, Spain - 13%

MyHeritage: Ibérico - 48%

FTDNA: Iberian Peninsula - 93%