Fusion of Gypsies and Hungarians. Caste system in Hungary. Dark pigmentation = masculine ?

[frankhammer]

Are you joking? Its East Europe, not the woke West. There are segregated schools only for whites, there are clubs, pubs where you cant go if your gypsy. Its pretty normal.

What has woke got to do with this? This is about respecting a person who is uplifting themselves and possibly their family. They deserve support, a thank you and a smile. A response that makes them feel valued.

[Blondie]

What has woke got to do with this? This is about respecting a person who is uplifting themselves and possibly their family. They deserve support, a thank you and a smile. A response that makes them feel valued.

In the past i had same mindset, but nowadays not really. In my opinion gypsies have no place in Europe, they must create an own country. I dont want to live with them, i dont want their assimilation and i dont want to integrate the gypsy kultur into european kultur.
I understand your point and your right, but gypsies had 800 years to integrate and they always refused it. I wont wait anymore and i dont care if some want to assimilate, i dont want them here.

[Mortimer]

A civil war is more possible between gypsies and whites than peaceful race mixing.

Gypsies do not have the Potential to wage war you mean something like a new Holocaust

[Blondie]

Gypsies do not have the Potential to wage war you mean something like a new Holocaust

So the establishment of Israel was another holocaust for jews? No need to make war, Europe has enough political and economic power to buy a little country somewhere in Asia or Africa.
Or as second option, i would gladly give independence to two hungarian counties and i would give it for hungarian gypsies to live.

[Mortimer]

So the establishment of Israel was another holocaust for jews? No need to make war, Europe has enough political and economic power to buy a little country somewhere in Asia or Africa.
Or as second option, i would gladly give independence to two hungarian counties and i would give it for hungarian gypsies to live.

You said first there will be a civil war i responded to your initial question with the Establishment of Israel not all jews were rounded up and put there with a fence around you yourself said there are so many jews in Budapest and jews wanted Israel not because of race but because they believe god gave it to them and its holy in their religion not comparable again you expect all gypsies to leave europe just because they are a foreign dirty race for you that is not comparable at all

[Varda]

https://ispovesti.com/m/ispovest/1040922
I am 24 years old. I am in love with Roma guy. My parents didn't allow a relationship with him. Because i am a daughter of reputable doctors?! We are in secret relationship already for two years and I've never been happier. People should really be divided only into good and bad. We bought a one-way ticket to Vienna. Wish me luck!

According to ijekavica she could be Croatian, Bosnian Serb, Bosniak or Montenegrin. On that site are present all Serbo-Croatian speakers. Btw that shows how language is strong connection between people divided by religion and ethnicity which had war betwern each other in relatively recent past.
If i am her father she would not by my daughter anymore after she escape with Gypsy. I feel sorry for her parents, poor people.

[Blondie]

You said first there will be a civil war i responded to your initial question with the Establishment of Israel not all jews were rounded up and put there with a fence around you yourself said there are so many jews in Budapest and jews wanted Israel not because of race but because they believe god gave it to them and its holy in their religion not comparable again you expect all gypsies to leave europe just because they are a foreign dirty race for you that is not comparable at all

In the countryside, the situation is very close to civil war, there are huge ethnic conflicts between hungarians and gypsies including violence like murders. Its not good, neither for gypsies neither for hungarians, we should end this situation. Its pretty clear that gypsies and europeans cant live together.
Whats your problem with an independent gypsy country? Dont you want own home where there is no racism? Dont you want own parlament? Own sport clubs? Own state and society?

[Scarface F]

Jews are not same, there are brown skinned jews, others look very white. Millions of jew lived in Hungary and basically almos only the rural jews were deported during the Holocaust not the budapesters, thats why the local jewish community is very huge. And these jews have been affected by magyarization as well, even the transylvanian or slovakian jews were hungarian speakers.

Just because Orban and the government is pro-jewish (for political reasons) it does not mean that the hungarian society likes them. Antisemitism is significant in Hungary. This number what i mentioned in the case of Budapest (100 thousand jew) is just minimum estimate, the maximal is 200 thousand. To be honest nobody knows, because 1. majority of them hides it, or 2. tons of jew know nothing about their ancestry so they dont know what they are, because their parents did not tell it. In the 2000' years there was an ultra-fascist guy "Csanád Szegedi", he was very antisemitic, his parents raised him as hungarian patriot and later Csanád discovered that his whole family is jewish and his parents lied him about the background of the family.

Dont get me wrong, obviously most of these brownies are half gypsies, but not necessarily, especially not in Budapest. This mixing exist of course but Universe significantly overestimate it. What Varda said about the relationship of serbs and gypsies its also true in the case of Hungary.

There is no Jewish underclass left in Europe to my knowledge. Almost everyone is middle class or higher. Off-white people I saw hanging around metro stations and similar in Budapest looked low class and I am pretty sure they are mixed Gypsies for the most part.

Varda statements about Serbs are cherrypicked and based on wishful thinking.

Mortimer is one person who already mentioned how many of his family members married Serbs, Hungarians, Germans etc. He is product of mixing himself. And there was genetic study that stated Hungarian Gypsies partly have Hungarian ethnic DNA.

[Scarface F]

In one genetic paper it was stated Croats from northern Croatia have 5% of haplogroup H and 1-2% of Asian type of R1a that are typical for Gypsies. Obviously there is some degree of assimilation going on, although I would say it is fairly limited and probably even Roma who declare as being ethnically not Roma are not necessarily integrated.

[Mortimer]

In the countryside, the situation is very close to civil war, there are huge ethnic conflicts between hungarians and gypsies including violence like murders. Its not good, neither for gypsies neither for hungarians, we should end this situation. Its pretty clear that gypsies and europeans cant live together.
Whats your problem with an independent gypsy country? Dont you want own home where there is no racism? Dont you want own parlament? Own sport clubs? Own state and society?

I do not have a problem with a Independent gypsy country just with some things how you portray it