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I dont doubt there are tribes or castes in India with unusually high amount of green eyes or blue eyes. However, the sub continent is extremely populated and very diverse. Genetically and culturally. We can't just paint the whole of the sub continent which is more diverse than Europe with just a few studies of a controversial anthropologist in the early 20th century. I hope the authors provide me with sufficient evidence and information so we can make a good judgement in regards to the study. I don't think we can have a solid opinion when none of us have been to Pakistan .
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This is rather refering to Peshewar and flat lands. NWFP didnt use to include the more mountainous parts of modern khyber such as Swat, Dir, Bajaur, Tirah, that got annexed later on forcefully. This is because the sikhs shaped the punjab province, and they didnt go much beyond peshewar. They only could conquer so much from Afghanistan. The mountain areas west of Peshewar still remained part of afghanistan
https://www.researchgate.net/figure/...fig1_283851750
It doesn't so much if it's South Asian or not, but historically the mountain areas, most of khyber, wasnt considered part of historical subcontinent.
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I've just been in contact with the author. He re confirmed the categories and showed me examples of the iris colours, however he due to data privacy he did not release the entire data set.
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Examples of "blue" ( including in this is pure light grey/blue and combination of blue/grey with green/yellow and brown centre)
Examples of "Intermediate " ( he strictly mentioned hazel/green/golden yellow eyes)
Examples of "brown" ( including within this category is light brown/medium brown and dark brown)
Participants were selected at random .
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eye colour in my family is highly variable
clearly it's a multi-gene expression
my mother & her family all have blue eyes
my father is one of 6 siblings...4 have brown eyes (including him), 2 have blue eyes
my 3 siblings & I have shades varying from brown to hazel
my twin brother has 2 children who are both blue eyed (mother has blue eyes)
my sister has 2 children who are also both blue eyed (father has hazel/brown eyes)
both of my father's blue eyed siblings have 2 blue eyed children each (with brown eyed partners)
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This phenomena is not only this study, I've seen other studies where women are significantly less light eyed than men .
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Within the brackets, left is women right is men
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Not if the mother has brown eyes. It just shows women have more of a preference for light eyes than men do, or at least they are more successful at actually selecting this trait for reproduction.
Over many generations it begins to make a difference as it get passed down more in male offsprings since they will always display more phenotypical traits of their father, being...well, males.
The difference is just usually not that large, i think it might well be the highest discrepancy in the world in that regard. Females Punjabi have only 7% light eyes which is more in line with their ancestry (exact same rate in PKP for females), the males have an incredibly higher rate in this population, inflating the average.
Statistically in Europe if you are 6 feet tall and light eyes you have something like +30% more chances of reproducing and those 2 are the highest correlation of any traits for it (but they didn't test money), which is already nuts for only two simple things like that. In Punjabi, light eyes alone probably gives you 2 or 300% more chances to reproduce.
But It also shows not nearly all phenotypical differences are due to admixture. Often the features visible on the surface, have a lot to do with sexual selections or both sexes would have nearly the same statistical rate everywhere, since their population admixture is exactly the same in one group between the sexes. Females tend to have more light hair, and males more light eyes, along with lighter skins. This is clearly the effects of heavily favored traits and very consistent in European populations too between men and women:
This is a better methodology by the way, relying on raw spectrometer datas (lower is lighter), instead of visually sorting things with a wet finger. So i wouldn't take the overall rate totally at face values in Punjabi and KPK, it's a ballpark, but the the difference between sexes is real for sure with that landslide gap.
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