Proto-Hungarian man best fit

[Blondie]

I didn't speak about language but formation of Hungarian identity. That is what Hungarian scholars consider, not my personal invention. They didn't call themselves Hungarian in Siberia nor Kazakh steppe.

Hungarian is a western nick name, the magyar name came from the Megyer tribe and it was the leader tribe. Obviously the megyer members had magyar identity, also before Etelköz. The problem is the lack of sources of this pre-etelköz period.

[Scarface F]

Hungarian is a western nick name

Thank you captain obvious.

the magyar name came from the Megyer tribe and it was the leader tribe. Obviously the megyer members had magyar identity, also before Etelköz. The problem is the lack of sources of this pre-etelköz period.

Therefore they don't claim Magyar tribe is 3000 years old because there is no evidence for it. And they absorbed some other elements except Ugric by the time they arrived in Ukraine/Moldova area (Iranic, Turkic,...)

[Hungarian_master]

North Pontid.

[Valenman]

Hungarians have very few Ural genes, they are not even Europeans with more Mongoloid genes

[Melkiirs]

Looks a bit like my father, except the blue eyes. Is he fully Mansi?

Based on Karin Mark's research 6,7% of Mansi have pure light eyes Bunak #9-12, which is still higher than what Aris Poulianos found among Greeks with the same scale. Mark found the Khanty darker at 3,3% pure light:

[Valenman]

Based on Karin Mark's research 6,7% of Mansi have pure light eyes Bunak #9-12, which is still higher than what Aris Poulianos found among Greeks with the same scale. Mark found the Khanty darker at 3,3% pure light:

You are an Anthropology book in person

[Melkiirs]

You are an Anthropology book in person

I've probably seen directly or at least have encountered references to most pigmentation studies out there through this forum and searching online resources like Google Books.

It was Lucas who made that color coded table from the Karin Mark data:
https://antropologia-fizyczna.pl/sta...ych-w-tabeli-2

The data is also addressed in this English translation of an Estonian anthropological journal:
https://dspace.ut.ee/items/b83366fa-...b-393e0485d5a2

[Blondie]

Therefore they don't claim Magyar tribe is 3000 years old because there is no evidence for it.

But the hungarian ethnicity is 3000 years old because of their language. Its nonsense that hungarians had no any magyar identity before Etelköz.

And they absorbed some other elements except Ugric by the time they arrived in Ukraine/Moldova area (Iranic, Turkic,...)

Thank you captain obvious.

[Scarface F]

But the hungarian ethnicity is 3000 years old because of their language. Its nonsense that hungarians had no any magyar identity before Etelköz.

Thank you captain obvious.

Your opinion is nonsense compared to opinion of academics.

[Blondie]

Your opinion is nonsense compared to opinion of academics.

Okay then pls post a hungarian source about it from the Academy. Nobody says that magyars had no any magyar identity before Etelköz, its just your fantasy. Just because the first written mention of "magyar" came from this time, it doesnt mean this name just came out of nowhere. Magyar means human in the old ugric language, the siberian magyars also used this word for each other. The 7 tribe was named after the Megyer leader tribe, obviously they were the oldest ugric core among these nomads, and they had magyar identity.